How does Golden Frieza fare off against fighters in GT

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

golden frieza along with whis and beerus are much weaker than goku from the beginning of GT. BOGT goku is stronger than all of them individually with only ssj. none of the gods would make it beyond final form rildo.

[Dbzfan94]

golden Freeza along with whis and beerus are much weaker than goku from the beginning of GT. BOGT goku is stronger than all of them individually with only ssj. none of the gods would make it beyond final form rildo.

But Rildo is said to be as only as strong as Buu. Even if assume that's to mean Gohan-Buu, God Goku/Vegeta, Golden Freeza, Beerus and Whis all 1-shot him.

I put the gods on Super Baby Vegeta / early SSJ4 tier. Omega Shenron and SSJ4 Gogeta still destroy all.

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

golden Freeza along with whis and beerus are much weaker than goku from the beginning of GT. BOGT goku is stronger than all of them individually with only ssj. none of the gods would make it beyond final form rildo.

But Rildo is said to be as only as strong as Buu. Even if assume that's to mean Gohan-Buu, God Goku/Vegeta, Golden Freeza, Beerus and Whis all 1-shot him.

I put the gods on Super Baby Vegeta / early SSJ4 tier. Omega Shenron and SSJ4 Gogeta still destroy all.

rildo without the use of transformations is stated to be stronger than majin boo. feat wise he is stronger than boo w/ gohan absorbed by a ridiculous amount as he defeated GT mystic gohan whom was stated to have not slacked off with his training in the GT perfect files.


1st form rildo>>>>>any form of boo
1st form rildo<GT base goku post god

final form rildo>ssj GT goku post god.

ssj GT goku post god>>golden frieza
ssj GT goku post god>beerus
ssj GT goku post god>whis

this is an appropriate list that shows how these characters compare to each other.

FnF base goku: 2.5
FnF "Super saiyan god super saiyan" goku: 15
Golden Frieza(full power): 16

beerus: 18
whis :27

EoZ base goku: 5
GT base goku: 12
GT ssj goku: 36

1st form rildo: 11
2nd form rildo: 18.5
final form rildo: 37

[Confidence Matters]

First Form Rhild was stated to be beyond Boo already. And this is clearly evident since he actually damaged GT Godku, and beat the absolute tar out of GT Gohan (equal to Ultimate/Mystic Gohan that faced Bootenks) and had him at his mercy until Majuub suckerblasted him.

ROF Golden Frieza would die to Ledgic, who actually for a "lesser" GT antagonist had one of the best rounds against GT Godku you'll ever see (well, maybe the sigma force?). They looked dead even until GT Godku transformed into SSj.

[Saiyan007]

Putting Gt and Bog/Rof in the same continuity is a mistake because it's clearly not.

The new movie clearly discredits Gt existence.

Gt is a side story as stated by Akira Toriyama

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

The new movie clearly discredits Gt existence.

Gt is a side story as stated by Akira Toriyama

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=29426

[Saiyan007]

Putting Gt and Bog/Rof in the same continuity is a mistake because it's clearly not.

The new movie clearly discredits Gt existence.

Gt is a side story as stated by Akira Toriyama

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=29426

The new movie invalidates Gt anyways

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

And the new movies don't invalidate the End of Z?

Goku expected Uub, the reincarnation of Kid Buu, to be as strong as/stronger than Base Goku (Post God)? A level Goku could never reach on his own, when Uub never even had proper training?

[Marco Polo]

And the new movies don't invalidate the End of Z?

Goku expected Uub, the reincarnation of Kid Buu, to be as strong as/stronger than Base Goku (Post God)? A level Goku could never reach on his own, when Uub never even had proper training?

Goku didn't know that Uub never had proper training. He didn't even know what Uub looked like. He quite clearly expected a trained warrior to show up, and got a scrawny little untrained kid instead. That's why he resorts to training him himself even though at first he just wanted a fighting partner.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

What human does Goku expect to properly train someone as strong as Kid Buu?

And say he does expect Uub to be trained, he's now expecting Uub to be above God tier from normal Earth training??

[Marco Polo]

What human does Goku expect to properly train someone as strong as Kid Buu?

Whoever, including Uub himself? That's not important.

And say he does expect Uub to be trained, he's now expecting Uub to be above God tier from normal Earth training??

Yes. If Frieza can do it then Kid Buu's reincarnation surely can. The new film actually makes EoZ make even more sense than before.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

But Uub isn't Freeza. Training gains can't be compared between characters. Also, What reason would Goku have to believe that Uub would be hundreds to thousands of times stronger than Kid Buu?

[Saiyan007]

But Uub isn't Freeza. What reason would Goku have to believe that Uub would be hundreds to thousands of times stronger than Kid Buu?

It makes sense in Rof he's surprised by Freeza's potential and commends him on how strong he got in so little time.

Uub too would probably have a higher potential than Freeza so in all reality the movies tie into the manga quite well

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

And that's Freeza. What would make Goku think Uub would be like over hundreds of times stronger than Kid Buu? Who ever said Uub has greater potential than Freeza?

[Marco Polo]

But Uub isn't Freeza. What reason would Goku have to believe that Uub would be hundreds to thousands of times stronger than Kid Buu?

It makes sense in Rof he's surprised by Freeza's potential and commends him on how strong he got in so little time.

Uub too would probably have a higher potential than Freeza so in all reality the movies tie into the manga quite well

Exactly.

[Confidence Matters]

Uub too would probably have a higher potential than Freeza so in all reality the movies tie into the manga quite well

Except that only explains why Godku was super excited for Uub the extremely brilliant prospect and future hero of the universe, but it doesn't explain why Godku thought Uub might actually win a tournament consisting of himself, VegeGod, Mystic Gohan, Boo, etc etc. Or why Uub right off the bat without any Godly training was able to match Godku (who was stated to be going full power) pretty much blow for blow, and actually cause damage to him with a single kick that wobbled Godku's arm pretty hard, and a Ki Cannon that made Godku look like a homeless man afterwards.

That is literally not possible since Uub is merely a Kid Boo reincarnate, and was never stated to ever recieve any type of training - much less GODLY training - prior to the tournament. In fact, given that Godku was eager to teach him everything, and given that Uub didn't even know how to fly, it is clear Uub didn't even train nor had a master at all.

BOG & ROF still break chapter 519 of the manga.

[Marlowe89]

According to guidebooks & video-games (well, one guidebook, Chozenshuu #4, & one video-game, XenoVerse), BoG/FnF and GT take place in the same continuity. So, Super Baby 1 is stronger than Golden Freeza, and even Whis.

Pretty sure Xenoverse explicitly establishes DBGT as an alternate timeline entirely.

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

According to guidebooks & video-games (well, one guidebook, Chozenshuu #4, & one video-game, XenoVerse), BoG/FnF and GT take place in the same continuity. So, Super Baby 1 is stronger than Golden Freeza, and even Whis.

Pretty sure Xenoverse explicitly establishes DBGT as an alternate timeline entirely.

that "alternate timeline" is the main timeline. trunks created a different timeline by going back to the past. the main timeline followed in dbz is not the original timeline.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

that "alternate timeline" is the main timeline. trunks created a different timeline by going back to the past. the main timeline followed in dbz is not the original timeline.

While it is true that Trunks' timeline is the original, the game specifically treats the story from Raditz to Beerus as the "main" timeline for the game's events and GT is acknowledged as a timeline alternate from that.

[Marlowe89]

that "alternate timeline" is the main timeline. trunks created a different timeline by going back to the past. the main timeline followed in dbz is not the original timeline.

I'll have to play it again, but I'm fairly positive that Future Trunks specifically makes it clear that the events of GT fall under a different timeline than what the player character experiences throughout the main story.