What do you hope not to see in Dragon Ball Super?

[Dyno]

As a one-off "Oh, Vegeta has a brother? That's cool, but he's pretty disappointing..." moment.

No words describe how ridiculous that is.

[EXBadguy]

Now, just about all we see is Goku.

That's not even true, though.[/quote]

Yeah it is. When you throw in new characters that Goku trains, what do people expect? Goku to pass the torch and let the next generation take over of course. Master Roshi did it, so why couldn't Goku?

Plus there were some really good characters that were WAAAYY overdue to shine more.

[batistabus]

No words describe how ridiculous that is.

That's Dragon Ball for you.

Yeah it is.

When you throw in new characters that Goku trains, what do people expect? Goku to pass the torch and let the next generation take over of course. Master Roshi did it, so why couldn't Goku?

It's not. Many character are featured heavily in every arc, all the way up through Revival of F.

Because Dragon Ball is the story of GOKU. It was never the story of Kame-sennin. You're free to like the other characters, you're free to wish them more screen time, but you shouldn't EXPECT the story to suddenly revolve around someone else.

[One_Instance]

It's not. Many character are featured heavily in every arc, all the way up through Revival of F.

Because Dragon Ball is the story of GOKU. It was never the story of Kame-sennin. You're free to like the other characters, you're free to wish them more screen time, but you shouldn't EXPECT the story to suddenly revolve around someone else.

I always thought it was the story of the Dragon Balls, hence the title.

[EXBadguy]

It's not. Many character are featured heavily in every arc, all the way up through Revival of F.

Because Dragon Ball is the story of GOKU. It was never the story of Kame-sennin. You're free to like the other characters, you're free to wish them more screen time, but you shouldn't EXPECT the story to suddenly revolve around someone else.

But not every. fucking. episode! That's the problem with GT and half of the Buu saga, Too much "Goku time" to the point where most of the characters are either ragdolls or nonexistent.

[IgnorantFuniFan]

no ebisawa

[Lord Beerus]

It's not. Many character are featured heavily in every arc, all the way up through Revival of F.

Because Dragon Ball is the story of GOKU. It was never the story of Kame-sennin. You're free to like the other characters, you're free to wish them more screen time, but you shouldn't EXPECT the story to suddenly revolve around someone else.

But not every. fucking. episode! That's the problem with GT and half of the Buu saga, Too much "Goku time" to the point where most of the characters are either ragdolls or nonexistent.

Goku did not get as much screentime or prominence in the Majin Boo arc as people like to think. Vegeta, Goten, Trunks, Gohan, Supreme Kai and Mr Satan got just as much screentime or prominence in that arc as Goku did.

[NintendoFan28]

Something I hope not to see in Dragon Ball Super, is villains who can constantly regenerate. Regeneration is one of the main factors that I disliked about Cell and Boo as villains. Villains who can constantly regenerate, take the suspense out of things in my opinion. This is one of the main reasons why Saiyajin Saga Vegeta and Freeza are among my favorite villains in Dragon Ball Z, because those guy can constantly take a beating like no other, without having to rely on regeneration.

[batistabus]

But not every. fucking. episode! That's the problem with GT and half of the Buu saga, Too much "Goku time" to the point where most of the characters are either ragdolls or nonexistent.

Just because Goku is much stronger than most characters and kills the villains, it doesn't mean everyone else is useless or nonexistent. That's like saying Bulma has no purpose in Dragon Ball because she can't fight. Characters can be featured heavily and satisfyingly in different ways...including comedy, strategy, emotional support, their own relative struggles, etc.

[Marlowe89]

But not every. fucking. episode! That's the problem with GT and half of the Buu saga, Too much "Goku time" to the point where most of the characters are either ragdolls or nonexistent.

Rest assured, Goku getting too much screentime was the least of GT's problems.

[swimtrunks]

Something I hope not to see in Dragon Ball Super, is villains who can constantly regenerate.

This^ Cell, Buu, & Baby could regenerate. I hope the villain/s in DB Super don't have that ability.

[One_Instance]

Something I hope not to see in Dragon Ball Super, is villains who can constantly regenerate.

This^ Cell, Buu, & Baby could regenerate. I hope the villain/s in DB Super don't have that ability.

I have to agree. I didn't mind it to much with Cell since he was the first villain who could do that with ease (not losing power/becoming exhausted), but when Boo could do the same thing it felt really redundant and unoriginal.

[fadeddreams5]

- Less fluff. First of all, I like to distinguish what I feel is comedy with what I refer to as "fluff." Comedy = Goku biting Frieza's tail in the most dire situation, prompting a scene with Frieza having the goofiest face while groaning in pain. This moment completely subverts our expectations by having Goku do something childish in the middle of a serious scene, and making Frieza, an intimidating and sadistic foe, showcase a silly expression for the first time.

Fluff = Beerus showing up to a party and making a kawaii face at the sight of pudding; Mr. Satan taunting a villain, only to back off and say he has stomach cramps; or cuts of Pilaf shenanigans in the middle of serious moments. These are all examples of things we already expect from these characters, so it does nothing except kill the pace and potential tone of the story. Other non-"comedy" related examples of fluff = rituals involving pure-heartedness, and introducing characters like Tarble's wife or those cutesy aliens from Episode of Bardock. Characters like Tarble, his wife, and cuddly aliens seem like attempts to make the show more kid-friendly, which we don't need. I want more strong humanoid beings, and I want the series to be as serious as the saiyan through Cell sagas, but I am positive it will be sillier than the Buu saga (i.e. the same as modern specials/movies) or just contain a lot of fluff in the middle of the action/adventure.

- No Tarble. Though I feel he'll end up appearing in at least one or two episodes.

- Less Pilaf. Or none at all.

- Less pacifism. I don't want gore, but I find it silly that now all the characters are pacifists when Future Trunks had no problem mercilessly killing all of Frieza's men in an instant back then. Piccolo, especially, used to be ruthless. On the note, I also want main characters to die (on-screen).

- No more colorful transformations, please. Or just no SSJ transformations at all. I wish they would lose their God powers at the end... so badly.

[Cetra]

Something I hope not to see in Dragon Ball Super, is villains who can constantly regenerate.

This^ Cell, Buu, & Baby could regenerate. I hope the villain/s in DB Super don't have that ability.

And Omega.

Also, how is Goku the only star of "Goku Time", when all three final battles in GT needed:

Baby: Pan, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Oob
Super 17: C18
Xing Long: Vegeta, Pan, Trunks, Gohan, Goten, Oob, the entire universe.

Goku was just the one who had most screentime and was their avatar of power, that is true. However, in the end he still needed them.

Just like he did against, wait ... ah yes, Boo and Beerus. So Goku, who just is the main character still has a reason to rely on others and they are not useless. I see the point of people wanting other characters more screentime but that just appears to be one of those cases again where people forget the roles characters already have had during the times when they missed them. There are other characters like Yamcha who really deserve more.

[Dyno]

Or people who can stretch their members... Really hated that on Janemba.

[Jackal puFF]

I don't want to see Frieza show up..

[Basaku]

Because Dragon Ball is the story of GOKU. It was never the story of Kame-sennin. You're free to like the other characters, you're free to wish them more screen time, but you shouldn't EXPECT the story to suddenly revolve around someone else.

By the time we reached Z it was an ensemble cast story, with Goku at lead. A significant difference. The part of the saga that became the worldwide phenomen we know today was the one one that had entire arcs devoted & carried by the ensemble cast without Goku. Race for the Dragon Balls on Namek, huge roles of Gohan & Trunks in Cell Saga. Even Krillan who was already weak by that point fighting-wise still had plot-shifting involvement (18 romance and remote controller). This isn't just about who gets the kill but also whether the ensemble cast is allowed to carry the story on their own, independently from Goku's involvement.

Last but not least, most the cast is better written and way more interesting than the only-cares-about-eating&fighting caricature that Toriyama ended up turning Goku into.

[One_Instance]

- No more colorful transformations, please. Or just no SSJ transformations at all. I wish they would lose their God powers at the end... so badly.

I'll let you have your opinions with the your other ideas, but you're going to lose on this one. The more forms and different appearances that characters have, the more merchandise that'll be pumped out. Hopefully, they'll give us reasonable durations of time between each new form we see. I don't really want to see to many more forms either, or at least not for a long time, but this just makes the most sense.

[bleed0range]

I really fear awful animation. I do not want awful animation to show up in DB Super. But the more I look at modern day TOEI, the more I am afraid it's not going to be that great.

[dbzfan7]

Goku and Vegeta show
I do not want to see everyone tossed aside just for Goku and Vegeta.

This is my biggest fear. I like these guys but I like my protagonist shifts or more characters joining the big lime light.