Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:18 pm

Dabura is the strongest warrior of the Demon Realm, which, I'm assuming, pretty much sticks to itself. He's on a totally different level from Goku. Same with Kaioshin. There wouldn't be any point in comparing Goku to them because they are irrelevant to the comparison. Beerus isn't going to assume that Goku bounces back and forth between planes of existence beating up gods because why would he?
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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Berserker1921 » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:21 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Dabura is the strongest warrior of the Demon Realm, which, I'm assuming, pretty much sticks to itself. He's on a totally different level from Goku. Same with Kaioshin. There wouldn't be any point in comparing Goku to them because they are irrelevant to the comparison. Beerus isn't going to assume that Goku bounces back and forth between planes of existence beating up gods because why would he?
Exactly. I mean Beerus just discovered about ssj. I highly doubt that he would ever beleive that a good Saiyan exist and has traveled and fought with or against these beings from other worlds or dimensions.

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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:24 pm

There is a ridiculously large gap between Frieza and Beerus. To say that's all he's capable of is likely a mistranslation. I read the other replies first before typing this, and Kaboom made a good point. But it doesn't seem right either way to make that kind of statement when Frieza is not 0.01% of Beerus power level. :P
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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Berserker1921 » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:27 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:There is a ridiculously large gap between Freeza and Beerus. To say that's all he's capable of is likely a mistranslation. I read the other replies first before typing this, and Kaboom made a good point. But it doesn't seem right either way to make that kind of statement when Freeza is not 0.01% of Beerus power level. :P
Perhaps he knows of his potential. I mean we don't know how long frieza served with him. Could have been years. I think it's safe to assume that frieza once mentioned he never trained a day in his life and is the third strongest being in the universe. Beerus could then say. Well if that's true, your a prodigy. And if you trained you be a challenge one day.

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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:28 pm

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Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:There is a ridiculously large gap between Freeza and Beerus. To say that's all he's capable of is likely a mistranslation. I read the other replies first before typing this, and Kaboom made a good point. But it doesn't seem right either way to make that kind of statement when Freeza is not 0.01% of Beerus power level. :P
Perhaps he knows of his potential. I mean we don't know how long Freeza served with him. Could have been years. I think it's safe to assume that Freeza once mentioned he never trained a day in his life and is the third strongest being in the universe. Beerus could then say. Well if that's true, your a prodigy. And if you trained you be a challenge one day.
Not to mention, Freeza wouldn't know about Whis. He would have considered himself second, after Beerus.
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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:59 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
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Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:There is a ridiculously large gap between Freeza and Beerus. To say that's all he's capable of is likely a mistranslation. I read the other replies first before typing this, and Kaboom made a good point. But it doesn't seem right either way to make that kind of statement when Freeza is not 0.01% of Beerus power level. :P
Perhaps he knows of his potential. I mean we don't know how long Freeza served with him. Could have been years. I think it's safe to assume that Freeza once mentioned he never trained a day in his life and is the third strongest being in the universe. Beerus could then say. Well if that's true, your a prodigy. And if you trained you be a challenge one day.
Not to mention, Freeza wouldn't know about Whis. He would have considered himself second, after Beerus.
According to Resurrection F, he knows about Buu and even used that as a comparison to how strong Goku became since they last battled. Unless these movies follow a different continuity. ;)
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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:22 am

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
According to Resurrection F, he knows about Buu and even used that as a comparison to how strong Goku became since they last battled. Unless these movies follow a different continuity. ;)
Buu is hearsay. He's never actually met Buu.
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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
According to Resurrection F, he knows about Buu and even used that as a comparison to how strong Goku became since they last battled. Unless these movies follow a different continuity. ;)
Buu is hearsay. He's never actually met Buu.
Not only that, but he doesn't know anything about Boo's power, other than that he should never lay a hand on him, which came from his father.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:10 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
According to Resurrection F, he knows about Buu and even used that as a comparison to how strong Goku became since they last battled. Unless these movies follow a different continuity. ;)
Buu is hearsay. He's never actually met Buu.
I didn't say he met Buu, but Frieza shouldn't consider himself 2nd best next to Beerus if Buu is stronger as well.
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Re: Does Super claim that Goku's SSJ didn't grow stronger?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:47 am

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
According to Resurrection F, he knows about Buu and even used that as a comparison to how strong Goku became since they last battled. Unless these movies follow a different continuity. ;)
Buu is hearsay. He's never actually met Buu.
I didn't say he met Buu, but Freeza shouldn't consider himself 2nd best next to Beerus if Buu is stronger as well.
He doesn't know Buu is stronger, and in fact, thinks Buu is dead. Tagoma (or Sorbet, I forget which,) told him that Goku took care of him. If I'm not mistaken, he wasn't even sure Buu existed before finding out about the end of the Buu Arc, anyway.
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