DB super canon ?

[SilverPlaqueVII]

Oh boy... canon and power levels, it is wise to not touch them. If Toriyama or TOEI one day say that and that is canon and that isn't, then we'll know, but they honestly don't care and neither should we.

It'll be likely Shueisha's call as well. Canon and timeline could also mean a different thing. If if aint broke, don't fix it.

[Xeztin]

Super is currently retailing the Movies, and the Manga has it's own spin. Currently Super, the movies, and the manga all have differences even though it's basically telling the same story. I believe the canon debate get's thrown out there, at this point, that and Power Level's are a thing of the past, Toriyama is most likely giving us one last "Hoo-Rah!" after all these years, and I'm going to take what I can get, even if it's numerous re-tellings. What you want to believe is "canon" is up to the individual her/himself.
Even though at it's core it's basically the same story, I understand why people want to know what Toriyama himself considers Canon to his own story, but if he came out and said that, hardcore DBZ fan's would most likely disregard everything else that he said wasn't. Which would probably hurt Manga/Movie/Anime sells if he only picked one. I'd say we will more than likely get an answer by the time he is done though.

[Hellspawn28]

I view U6 saga and maybe beyond as canon to the two movies since U6 seems to take place right after ROF ended and Toriyama said that they wrote the story for the U6 saga. However I don't view the Super version of BOG and ROF as canon since it seems like Toriyama has nothing to do with the stories for the retelling for those two unless someone proves me otherwise.

[smiley]

So, is it true that the scenario for the DBS manga is written by Toriyama? If not, who is written by?

[Lord Beerus]

So, is it true that the scenario for the DBS manga is written by Toriyama? If not, who is written by?

The plot of the manga is a somewhat different interpretation of the basic outline of the plot Toriyama has provided from the U6 arc so far. Toyotaro is 100% behind how the plot of the manga goes. Toriyama has no bearing on it. He's doing his own thing.

[Zephyr]

I think all that Toei and Toriyama think is "canon" regarding all of these versions of Battle of Gods is pretty much "some time between Kid Buu's death, and Uub's appearance, Beerus came to Earth and fought Goku as a Super Saiyan God".

In other words, they don't seem to care about the details. Those don't matter. What matters is the more broad strokes.

I honestly can't think of any other explanation for their thoughts on the matter, given that they've given us so many different versions of the same basic plot point in such a small window of time.

[Polyphase Avatron]

It's as canon as you want it to be.

[DragonHermit]

The white aura in base form is God Ki right?



Look what I found at the EoZ tournament





Gohan in Mystic form (which me and another poster already mentioned could be a tap-in to the God form w/out Super Saiyan God power). I mean he trained with Gods to get that power. I'm assuming there might be a human god form too, which Buu might possess.

[Sandubadear]

The white aura in base form is God Ki right?


Look what I found at the EoZ tournament


Gohan in Mystic form (which me and another poster already mentioned could be a tap-in to the God form w/out Super Saiyan God power). I mean he trained with Gods to get that power. I'm assuming there might be a human god form too, which Buu might possess.

Then everyone is a god except Gohan.

[Jaetinh]

God Yamcha & God Tenshinhan.



Cmon man.

[Cetra]

Gohan in Mystic form (which me and another poster already mentioned could be a tap-in to the God form w/out Super Saiyan God power). I mean he trained with Gods to get that power. I'm assuming there might be a human god form too, which Buu might possess.

Ultimate Gohan does not even have a visible aura in the original. He powers up, a shockwave is shown and he is full power. He only has that aura stuff very recently. And - well, what the others said. It does not mean anything about deities.

[Duo]

The closest thing to a continuity for the new story events taking place in Dragon Ball Super would be the events that are consistent between all three versions.

It is positively true that Goku fights and loses to Beerus as a Super Saiyan 3. Whether or not he fought at the lower stages first can be your preference of continuity.

It is positively true that Bulma slaps Beerus, causing Vegeta to totally rage out and momentarily become stronger than Goku. Whether or not this takes place on a boat or at Capsule Corp can be your preference of continuity.

It is positively true that Goku summons Shenlong and becomes a Super Saiyan God to fight Beerus, only to fail in overpowering him. Whether or not this took a few pages, a few minutes of screen time, or 5 episodes can be your preference of continuity.

Gregory? Who knows. Champa's stuff in the manga so far? Maybe. This will all probably make a lot more sense in a few months or years anyway.

Hell, the best thing about all these versions is that if I don't like Super, I can watch the film or read the manga.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

So, is it true that the scenario for the DBS manga is written by Toriyama? If not, who is written by?

The plot of the manga is a somewhat different interpretation of the basic outline of the plot Toriyama has provided from the U6 arc so far. Toyotaro is 100% behind how the plot of the manga goes. Toriyama has no bearing on it. He's doing his own thing.

Is there any proof Toriyama just gives outlines to the manga and anime team? it sure seams likely but nothing concrete. All we know is Toriyama thumbsed up both of em, and they don't match,and then there's the movies. It really seams like canon isn't a issue to them.

They need to release info on his involvement in super like how we found out his work on the animes beforehand.

[Travis Touchdown]

Huh. I just noticed Master Roshi has an aura. He's never had one before in the series. Not even in World's Strongest when he fought alongside everyone. Either that's an oversight or I guess we could say the student became the master and Krillin trained him how to charge his ki in a way that produces an aura.

Also,

Vegeta's base aura has always been blue. This probably is a mistake.

[HybridSaiyan]

Doesn't Super make EOZ not canon? Since Bulla is a year older than Pan and Bulla is nowhere to be seen in Super yet.

[irreality]

Doesn't Super make EOZ not canon? Since Bulla is a year older than Pan and Bulla is nowhere to be seen in Super yet.

So EoZ does not mention her age. It is from various guides, some which have her a year younger than Pan. Based on how she looks/acts in EoZ, I think it makes more sense for her to be younger, since she seems less independent than Pan.

[Lord Frieza]

For me personal I go with Dragon Ball, Z and Super as being core story and GT and the Movies alternate realities/timelines. That way everything is canon in a way.

Also just because you dont like Super doesnt mean other people dont. That is your opinion and your entitled to it but thats not the same as everyone hating it. I have enjoyed the series so far and I nether deluding myself or forceing myself to like it because its Dragon Ball. I like Super but that is my opinion.

[Soppa Saia People]

Doesn't Super make EOZ not canon? Since Bulla is a year older than Pan and Bulla is nowhere to be seen in Super yet.

I'm surprised Bulla isn't a word fillter considering it's censership.

[Geekdom101]

There's three canons now for the 10 year time skip:

1. Movies (BOG and RF)
2. Manga (Toyotaro)
3. Super Anime.


Pick which one you like the most.

[ekrolo2]

There's three canons now for the 10 year time skip:

1. Movies (BOG and RF)
2. Manga (Toyotaro)
3. Super Anime.


Pick which one you like the most.

You forgot the original one, the one where nothing happens