Piccolo's ENG dub voice opinion

[Naruto6583]

that's an insult to Kristen Stewart

But i agree,i think he makes Piccolo sound monotone and he doesn't give him any character except "cynical" but even then the voice doesnt sound good imo

RB2 was the one with Linda Young AND Chris Ayres in the same cut scene right?

Nope that's Ultimate Tenkaichi. RB2 had no cutscenes

[WittyUsername]

As far as Chris Sabat's Piccolo voice is concerned, it's no secret that when he first started out voicing the character, he did a bad Scott McNeil impression, but by the Buu saga, he had already more or less stopped imitating Scott McNeil. His Piccolo voice still occasionally sounded gravelly and wasn't as smooth sounding as it is nowadays, but you can tell that he had started to make the voice his own by then.

[EXBadguy]

I honestly like both of them, even though I like the old "rough" one mostly out of nostalgia.

[Hisoka]

Sabat's voice as Piccolo was much better in Kai than Z in my opinion.

[ABED]

that's an insult to Kristen Stewart

But i agree,i think he makes Piccolo sound monotone and he doesn't give him any character except "cynical" but even then the voice doesnt sound good imo

RB2 was the one with Linda Young AND Chris Ayres in the same cut scene right?

Yeah, And he doesn't sound like a Namekian!

Cynical? Are you just throwing out adjectives?

In all seriousness, he's not monotone, he fits Piccolo's character and the acting is far better than it was it ever was. Dropping the gravel helped tons.

[Soppa Saia People]

that's an insult to Kristen Stewart

But i agree,i think he makes Piccolo sound monotone and he doesn't give him any character except "cynical" but even then the voice doesnt sound good imo

RB2 was the one with Linda Young AND Chris Ayres in the same cut scene right?

Yeah, And he doesn't sound like a Namekian!

Cynical? Are you just throwing out adjectives?

In all seriousness, he's not monotone, he fits Piccolo's character and the acting is far better than it was it ever was. Dropping the gravel helped tons.

Damn it you took me joke! Anyway I agree with you, the gravel was just stupid.

[huzaifa_ahmed]

that's an insult to Kristen Stewart

But i agree,i think he makes Piccolo sound monotone and he doesn't give him any character except "cynical" but even then the voice doesnt sound good imo

RB2 was the one with Linda Young AND Chris Ayres in the same cut scene right?

Yeah, And he doesn't sound like a Namekian!

Cynical? Are you just throwing out adjectives?

In all seriousness, he's not monotone, he fits Piccolo's character and the acting is far better than it was it ever was. Dropping the gravel helped tons.

Damn it you took me joke! Anyway I agree with you, the gravel was just stupid.

Does not Lord Furukawa's performance also have a slight "snake" gravel to it?

[KaiserNeko]

Does not Lord Furukawa's performance also have a slight "snake" gravel to it?

It does, but it's more along the lines of a natural grit to his voice. When he gets angry or upset.

Sabat's gravel was just... unnatural and silly sounding.

As for the Piccolo scene with Goku:
Original Z Dub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA

Kai Dub:
https://youtu.be/eXF-VXkGMy8?t=5m14s

Kai Sabat is better, flat out. There is no comparison: His original take is over the top, growly, and unrealistic. In Kai, he delivers a nuanced performance that is parts confused, frustrated, angered, and indignant... where originally it was just anger and frustration. It's also closer to the Japanese interpretation, in both voice and delivery.

[TheBlackPaladin]

As others have mentioned, his first voice for Piccolo was a bad Scott McNeil impression (and I don't feel bad calling it that, because that's what Sabat himself will readily admit that it was). Like everyone else on the FUNimation cast, they became much, much better in their respective roles when they stopped trying to imitate their Ocean counterparts. My thought has always been, even if you're replacing somebody who's well known in their role, the best thing to do is just to go your own way with it. Trying to imitate the previous actor not only causes the viewers to want the old actor back, but it produces an insincere performance, because the actor is not thinking in terms of, "How would my character say this?" Rather, he and the rest of the cast at the start were thinking in terms of, "How would the person who did this before me probably sound?"

Sabat has only gotten better with time, both in terms of the voice he uses for Piccolo and in terms of his acting. His voice doesn't quite sound like Furukawa, but it doesn't necessarily need to. Furukawa's voice works wonderfully for Piccolo, but it's not the only voice that could work wonderfully. Sabat's deep, smooth voice sounds very much like what one would think a demon would sound like (in my opinion, of course).

One last thing I'll add: I'm glad people are dividing the classification of the actor's voices into time periods, because I agree, they do change with time. Even Scott McNeil commented that for the (GRR, STILL NOT RELEASED!) Ocean dub of Kai, his voice for Piccolo sounds slightly different. To quote him, "Although, I've got an additional twenty years of junk in the throat, so I think it actually sounds better this time around."

[Ree]

ABED:
oh HAR HAR very funny. not.
I'm going to explain as best as i can.
I personally do not see his voice coming from anyone that looks like Piccolo. i expect voices to stand out if characters have some notable differentt traits from humans even if they might look it. Zelda chraacters only have longer ears to stand them out so I'm okay with human voices but Piccolo has less in common with humans despite being human-shaped.

okay, moving on...

maybe "serious" would be more fitting? Point is he doesnt have dimensions.

thats not saying a whole lot, he just went from 1/10 to 2.3/10 imo. here are the quotes again and I will expand on them:

"Scott McNeil wins easily, Chris Sabat doesn't sound remotely engaged, battle-ready or threatening."
TRUTH. in most of those scenes he sounds like he's lecturing you.

"An impressive yawn from Mr. Sabat."
this is talking about his screams which are just "HARRRRRRRGH."

"Yay....another character done by adding Sabat's "unique" deep voice e_e...Scott McNeil please"
now there is nothing wrong with a deep voice on its own. its when you do nothing else with it that it fails.

[ABED]

Zelda chraacters only have longer ears to stand them out so I'm okay with human voices but Piccolo has less in common with humans despite being human-shaped.

Yes, he's green. Other than that, he doesn't need food. How that affects his vocal chords is beyond me.

Really, I keep bringing it up because I find it silly. You don't have a problem with any of the other namekian voices BESIDES Sabat's.

I think Sabat started losing much of the gravel by the beginning of the Buu arc and just doing that improved his performance enormously. Regarding his screams, another actor being better doesn't make another worse. McNeil is a fantastic actor, but Sabat's voice also fits Piccolo, and his yells are fine.

[Ree]

it doesnt but then again neither do weight, height and all that other stuff but voices are still modified to fit the visual. take Big G from Doraemon for example. if he was suddenly redesigned to be super skinny the voice would clash.
this is Big G's voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqncZZvvZQ

i do actually. I have a problem with Gurus voice even in Kai
I also take issue with Kami though i havent heard much of him.

It doesnt have to mean another actor is worse but... he is. screams are the least of my problems.

[ABED]

it doesnt but then again neither do weight, height and all that other stuff but voices are still modified to fit the visual. take Big G from Doraemon for example. if he was suddenly redesigned to be super skinny the voice would clash.

i do actually. I have a problem with Gurus voice even in Kai
I also take issue with Kami though i havent heard much of him.

It doesnt have to mean another actor is worse but... he is. screams are the least of my problems.

You aren't specific, what about Kami and The Grand Elder's voice do you have a problem with? And really, the Grand elder in KAI'S is the one you have a problem with? Sabat's performance is far worse than the actor who played him in Kai. At least Kai's sounds like an older man.

What about that voice doesn't fit the visuals. Your views are completely arbitrary. And hopefully you might see where I have a problem taking what you say serious when your grounds for not liking Sabat's Vegeta is that his voice was too deep for a 29 year old.

[Ree]

Kami is bland from what I heard, the Grand Elder doesnt sound much like an old man in both versions. and yes Chris was terrible.

I was saying Big Gs voice wouldnt fit if he was redesigned to be skinny because it was modified to fit a fat kid.
ironically thats how I see your views on some actors I actually like.
that wasnt even my only reason and it WAS deeper than it should have been to me.

[ABED]

Kami is bland from what I heard, the Grand Elder doesnt sound much like an old man in both versions. and yes Chris was terrible.

I was saying Big Gs voice wouldnt fit if he was redesigned to be skinny because it was modified to fit a fat kid.
ironically thats how I see your views on some actors I actually like.
that wasnt even my only reason and it WAS deeper than it should have been to me.

But you didn't use your ridiculous "he doesn't sound like a Namekian"

What? there's no redesign.

Based on what? Your idea that 29 year olds don't have deep voices?

[Ree]

Imagine an episode where Noby's mom forces him into a weight loss program after seeing how much weight he gained, now imagine Big G is there. Doraemon makes an automatic weight loss device but it lands on Big G somehow. Suddenly his voice would clash
It might not sound BAD but it would take getting used to
Do you get it now?

Its not just the voice itself its the delivery, like LilithIria18 said he sounds 40+ , at times

[ABED]

Imagine an episode where Noby's mom forces him into a weight loss program after seeing how much weight he gained, now imagine Big G is there. Doraemon makes an automatic weight loss device but it lands on Big G somehow. Suddenly his voice would clash
It might not sound BAD but it would take getting used to
Do you get it now?

Its not just the voice itself its the delivery, like LilithIria18 said he sounds 40+ , at times

I've never seen that show and it's ridiculous example since the design didn't change.

It didn't sound 40 at all. It sounded the age of the actor playing the character - 29.

[Ree]

Taking 100+ pounds off a character model is a design change

He just didn't sound youthful the way his predecessor did
Even now i still hear traces of old man Vegeta like in Battle of gods when he says MY BULMA

[ABED]

Taking 100+ pounds off a character model is a design change

He just didn't sound youthful the way his predecessor did
Even now i still hear traces of old man Vegeta like in Battle of gods when he says MY BULMA

Drummond just had a higher voice, that doesn't make it more youthful.

Vegeta doesn't sound like an old man, then he sounds 40 because Vegeta and Sabat are around that age.

What 100 lbs? What are you talking about? What does this have to do with Piccolo? Piccolo's design didn't change.

[Ree]

Higher doesnt make it more youthful but actually good acting does

did we watch the same movie? All through the film all i heard was some old guy in a booth taking over Vegeta
Like this scene: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9hKlJcp_f0o
There's a version without music and it REALLY shows there.
If you go looking for it, here's a warning , your ears WILL bleed

I meant on Big G sorry.