Why weren't King Piccolo's off-springs Nameks?

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Re: Why weren't King Piccolo's off-springs Nameks?

Post by Cipher » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:59 am

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FoolsGil wrote:Because Namek wasn't a thing when King Piccolo was being called a demon.
He is a demon. He's a Namekian demon.
I never fully understood this. His backstory was retconned in the Saiyan arc, yet for some reason all of his victims before that never went to the afterlife. Raditz was the only one up until that point whose soul went to Enma and I don't understand that either.

How exactly is he a demonic Namekian? :?
As others have said, he's literally a being of manifested evil. Herms' demon guide covers it, but "'demons" in Dragon Ball also tend to have less to do with origins and more with allegiance to dark arts and evil.

Either way, though, God/Piccolo originally being from Namek does not remove Piccolo's mystical origins.

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Re: Why weren't King Piccolo's off-springs Nameks?

Post by apex_pretador » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:39 pm

All of them were namekians. Daimao was half namekian, so his sons were weird.
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Re: Why weren't King Piccolo's off-springs Nameks?

Post by Thouser » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:05 pm

SylentEcho wrote:I never fully understood this. His backstory was retconned in the Saiyan arc, yet for some reason all of his victims before that never went to the afterlife. Raditz was the only one up until that point whose soul went to Enma and I don't understand that either.

How exactly is he a demonic Namekian? :?
He's Namekian because God is Namekian, and he is the evil part of God. Because he was a being of pure evil, he was called a demon, and his group was the "Demon Tribe" (魔族).

However, as God says after the fight with Raditz, since Raditz (and Goku) were able to pass on to the afterlife, unlike previous victims of the Demon Tribe, Piccolo must have become less evil. I don't remember the exact way he phrases it though. In any case, whether Piccolo qualifies as a "demon" or not has to do with how evil he is, and is unrelated to his race.

If a human somehow underwent training to do what God did and exorcise their evil into a seperate being, that pure evil human could probably be considered a demon as well.

This isn't stated in the series, but just as Piccolo Daimaō can choose the form of his children, perhaps the demonic Namekians can choose if their victims pass on to the afterlife, because of their magic, and they just always chose to not let them "for the lulz" because they were evil. What God says about Piccolo becoming less evil might imply that Piccolo made a choice to let Raditz and Goku pass on, rather than any inherent state. Although, like I said, I don't remember the exact way God phrased it.
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Re: Why weren't King Piccolo's off-springs Nameks?

Post by FoolsGil » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:19 am

He is not truly a Namekian. He was the Nameless Namekian's hatred and darkness made corporeal when he was released so the son of Katas could become Kami.

Thus, he's a mutant. He lays eggs like Namekians, but they're all monsters and freaks.

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Re: Why weren't King Piccolo's off-springs Nameks?

Post by omaro34 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:06 pm

Toriyama did not think of Namekians as a race at the time, that idea didn't come to him till later.

Piccolo was a demon. Similar to Majin Buu, he was sealed away for a very long time.
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