Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by MCDaveG » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:43 pm

Well, my honest opinion is that Funimation should redub the entirety of DBZ with faithful script like Kai.
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Michelle91 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:45 pm

But why? We have Kai and Kai is consider to be a better version of DBZ since the pacing moves much faster since these is much less filler in it. Not to mention most of the filler in DBZ hardly adds anything to the plot in my opinion. It's barely better then the filler in Naruto and Bleach in my opinion.
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by MCDaveG » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:56 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:But why? We have Kai and Kai is consider to be a better version of DBZ since the pacing moves much faster since these is much less filler in it. Not to mention most of the filler in DBZ hardly adds anything to the plot in my opinion. It's barely better then the filler in Naruto and Bleach in my opinion.
I dunno, because my default JP versions are both DBZ and Kai and I am not screwed over with tons of releases with bad dub.
My post wasn't meant negatively by the way, it's just my point of view. Also, I do prefer the DBZ as it is original and even if there is filler, I am not suffering with weird newly drawn scenes, randomly tossed in previous BGM after they've fired Yamamoto, weird videogame beepy stuff in Buu arc with green tint and just cropped + two horrible openings replacing iconic Chala Head Chala and We Gotta Power.
I've just thought that American fans deserve the definitive version of the series in english. The claim that: ''We have Kai'' sounds pretty sad to me as ''Yeah, at least we have the Kai, otherwise we'll have to endure it with subtitles''
as most fans are saying this over the internet.
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by precita » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:16 pm

ABED wrote:The patchwork dub of Z is awful and off putting. Even if Sabat's work had improved a lot over the years, it was weird hearing 07 Vegeta interact with 99 Goku.
Goku's '99 voice doesn't sound as jarringly different as Chris Sabat's original Vegeta/Piccolo and Sonny Straight's Krillin did though.

Sean Schemmel definitely has been emotion and tone in his voice nowadays, but the actual voice isn't all too different.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:19 pm

MCDaveG wrote:Well, my honest opinion is that Funimation should redub the entirety of DBZ with faithful script like Kai.
I know FUNi can be idiotic sometimes but this would be financial suicide, there is no point. There will be no market for this at all. People who have Kai are not going to go out and buy Z again, and the people who have Z are not going to buy Z again because their Toonami nostalgia will be gone.
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ABED wrote:The patchwork dub of Z is awful and off putting. Even if Sabat's work had improved a lot over the years, it was weird hearing 07 Vegeta interact with 99 Goku.
Goku's '99 voice doesn't sound as jarringly different as Chris Sabat's original Vegeta/Piccolo and Sonny Straight's Krillin did though.

Sean Schemmel definitely has been emotion and tone in his voice nowadays, but the actual voice isn't all too different.
It absolutely is, go watch BoG or Resurrection "F" and the watch S3 right after. The difference in the voice is huge, I couldn't listen to it at all had to switch over to the JPN track.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by precita » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:25 pm

But they already have their Toonami dub nostalgia with the previous DVD sets.

Why not release a new DVD set with Chris Ayres as Freeza? I mean we know that they would never spend the time/money to redub all of DBZ, but re-doing a few voices is possible.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:55 pm

precita wrote:But they already have their Toonami dub nostalgia with the previous DVD sets.

Why not release a new DVD set with Chris Ayres as Freeza? I mean we know that they would never spend the time/money to redub all of DBZ, but re-doing a few voices is possible.
For that, I refer back to reason #1 that I mentioned in my first post...most of the people who are buying DBZ for the dub do not want it changed. Even the little re-dubbing that was done was greeted with a mixed reception, with some fans actually preferring Sabat's Drummond impression voice. I don't, and I'm frankly surprised that other people do, and even Chris Sabat has said that hates his Drummond impression voice...but still, that's what we're dealing with. People buy dub-centered DBZ products for nostalgia's sake, and FUNimation is clearly aware of this based on their marketing.

Would a re-dubbed Freeza arc sell? It'd sell something, sure, and I'd pick it up in a heartbeat, as would several others, not to mention the people who will buy products just because it has "Dragon Ball Z" in its title somewhere. There's not nearly enough potential purchasers, though, for FUNimation to make a return on such an investment. Like Baggie_Saiyan said, it would be financial suicide, even if the re-dubbing was confined to just one arc. If money were no object, I'd urge them to do it, but obviously money is a concern. Enough anime dubbing/distribution companies have gone out of business, we don't need another one gone.

And again, if Freeza were to be re-dubbed, that would entail more than just re-dubbing Freeza. That means re-dubbing other characters (for which some of the original voice actors are not available), re-writing, re-directing, bringing in an audio engineer, mixing the new recordings, releasing a new home video series...it's just not financially practical.
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:18 pm

No. Chris Ayres deserves better than the God-awful lines that Linda Young had to read out.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:59 pm

I really don't think there would be any point in doing that. The Z dub ended a long time ago, it should just be left as it is.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Super Sonic » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:32 pm

Don't think it's needed. Aside from money reasons and folks having bought what they wanted, going back to redo with a new actor doesn't make folks want to buy it new again. For example, knew some folks who had the first Totoro dvd Fox released say they weren't interested in getting it again with Disney's, even if wanted it in Japanese. And does anyone out there want "Ghost in a Shell" re-released with Mary Elizabeth McGlynn and Richard Epcar?

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Kaboom » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:15 pm

Nah. In general, I think we're long past the point where a redub of DBZ is needed or even worthwhile. Kai and its good dub have made it obsolete.

What I would like to see and believe desperately need to be re-dubbed, however, are the Z movies and TV specials. Let me get my Ayres-Freeza fix in the Bardock special, Movie 5, and Movie 12.
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:50 pm

Kaboom wrote:Nah. In general, I think we're long past the point where a redub of DBZ is needed or even worthwhile. Kai and its good dub have made it obsolete.

What I would like to see and believe desperately need to be re-dubbed, however, are the Z movies and TV specials. Let me get my Ayres-Freeza fix in the Bardock special, Movie 5, and Movie 12.
If they ever did that, they should just redub the Bardock special in its entirety. That particular dub was probably one of the worst they have ever done.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Ree » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:15 pm

Linda Young is bad and thankfully shes done but i dont really think that would be hair to the fans and plus I think other voices need fixing before hers.
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by ABED » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:31 pm

Ree wrote:Linda Young is bad and thankfully shes done but i dont really think that would be hair to the fans and plus I think other voices need fixing before hers.
Such as? Anyone who comes close to being as big of a character as Freeza?
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by precita » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:23 pm

I think he means redub the other Season 3 performances? Sean Schemmel should of re-done his old 1999 Goku voice.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by Ree » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:12 pm

Vegeta is pretty bad in season 3 and Remastered and i honestly think its one of the worst Funimation dub voices
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by BlackCatScott » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:23 pm

No. As much as I like Chris Ayres, I don't see much point in this. I mean, I would love to see the whole of Z dubbed with the same quality of writing and voice acting as Kai but as they have already done Kai it's pretty pointless and it would be a lot of work for yet another re-release of a series the majority of fans already own in some format. If it ever happened it would be a re-dub of the entire series. It would be ridiculous of them to go back and re-dub Freezas lines with Ayres and re-release the series. That would make zero sense.

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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by ABED » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:01 pm

Ree wrote:Vegeta is pretty bad in season 3 and Remastered and i honestly think its one of the worst Funimation dub voices
Agreed, although I think a lot of that is down to Sabat being told to do an impression of Drummond, though he's still preferable to Young's Freeza.
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Re: Should Chris Ayres redub Freeza in DBZ?

Post by precita » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:31 pm

I thought Chris Sabat re-recorded his Season 3 Vegeta after the redub? So he has his 2005 era Vegeta voice in the Namek saga now.

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