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Re: The Funimation dub of Dragon Ball is absolutely marvello

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:02 pm

Geekdom101 wrote:Marvelous is not really the word I'd use. Maybe... Better than the original Z?
Not "maybe". It's definitely better than the original dub for Z, but that's not saying much. The dub itself still has many issues with the script, performances and censorship.

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Re: The Funimation dub of Dragon Ball is absolutely marvello

Post by B » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:55 pm

It's a piece of garbage, but in the interest not beating dead horses:

-Why doesn't Sonny Strait just play Krillin as a child? Laurie Steele's not awful or anything, but it doesn't seem out of the realm of his abilities, so I don't get the logic of paying a new person to act.
-I wish they didn't give a bunch of extras accents the way they did.
-They accidentally translated "bukujutsu" into "sky dancing" during the 22nd Budokai. Considering this is never called anything but "flying" in any other part of the series, it sounds like "Tien Shinhan" is being extra sarcastic.
-Nadolny's Goku drops the term "power level" after he's drank the Super God Water. if you're watching the show chronologically(admittedly, who is?), this is the first time it's used and won't be again until Raditz shows up 30+ episodes later. It ends up looking like Goku just invented that term all on his own, and if that's the case, how does Raditz know it in Z Episode 1?
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Re: The Funimation dub of Dragon Ball is absolutely marvello

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-Why doesn't Sonny Strait just play Krillin as a child? Laurie Steele's not awful or anything, but it doesn't seem out of the realm of his abilities, so I don't get the logic of paying a new person to act.
Oftentimes they usually have women play younger versions of characters. Ever watch One Piece or Fairy Tail? They often have women playing younger versions of characters and men playing their older versions, in both English and Japanese.
-I wish they didn't give a bunch of extras accents the way they did.
That was to make them stand out. Or was that working better with "Hetalia" and "Black Butler"? Most everyone I know loves the accents on their dubs. Then again, with the latter, British accents are automatically looked at as rocking, so that may be a thing.

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Re: The Funimation dub of Dragon Ball is absolutely marvello

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B wrote:-I wish they didn't give a bunch of extras accents the way they did.
Oh god, I always forget they did that. General Red's awful Scottish-but-not-Scottish accent is one of the worst things about that dub. Eurgh.
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Post by Bansho64 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:11 pm

Wow B. I've never actually heard someone call the dub horrible. Can you give me some reasons why?

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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:18 pm

Calling it a piece of garbage is excessive. For those saying things such as it's better than Z but that's not saying much, it's far better. It's still not a great dub, but it's okay. It's at least mediocre.
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Post by Ajay » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:33 pm

Bansho64 wrote:Wow B. I've never actually heard someone call the dub horrible. Can you give me some reasons why?
I know you're not addressing me, but I think one of the main reasons that a lot of people find it poor is that it simply throws too many out-of-character lines out there that bring it down to Z-dub levels of horrible far too often.

One of the most egregious examples being their attempt at actually making Goku and Chichi's marriage proposal romantic. That was sure something.
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Re: The Funimation dub of Dragon Ball is absolutely marvello

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Ajay wrote:
Bansho64 wrote:Wow B. I've never actually heard someone call the dub horrible. Can you give me some reasons why?
I know you're not addressing me, but I think one of the main reasons that a lot of people find it poor is that it simply throws too many out-of-character lines out there that bring it down to Z-dub levels of horrible far too often.

One of the most egregious examples being their attempt at actually making Goku and Chichi's marriage proposal romantic. That was sure something.
That scene was pretty bad "Sometimes my brain doesn't know what my mouth is saying...good thing my heart does. Will you marry me?" That's pretty far off from the original line "But, well I did make you a promise. So, wanna get married?"

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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:59 pm

I know you're not addressing me, but I think one of the main reasons that a lot of people find it poor is that it simply throws too many out-of-character lines out there that bring it down to Z-dub levels of horrible far too often.

One of the most egregious examples being their attempt at actually making Goku and Chichi's marriage proposal romantic. That was sure something.
I understand, but I don't think they are making a fair assessment. DBZ was FAR worse about it.
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Post by Ajay » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:04 pm

ABED wrote:I understand, but I don't think they are making a fair assessment. DBZ was FAR worse about it.
Oh, for sure. That wasn't what I was trying to say though. It was just that, while they don't do it to the say degree as the Z dub, there are examples in there that prevent it from being "marvellous" or even just "good".
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ABED wrote:I understand, but I don't think they are making a fair assessment. DBZ was FAR worse about it.
Oh, for sure. That wasn't what I was trying to say though. It was just that, while they don't do it to the say degree as the Z dub, there are examples in there that prevent it from being "marvellous" or even just "good".
I agree. Even if someone likes the dub, I'm not sure how anyone could honestly come to the conclusion that it's marvelous.
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Post by Iberian_Saiyan » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:12 pm

ABED wrote:I agree. Even if someone likes the dub, I'm not sure how anyone could honestly come to the conclusion that it's marvelous.
Abed, to be honest, I can't really stand listening to Colleen Clinkenbeard either as Gokou or Gohan due to her annoyingly high-pitched voice and no, it is not comparable to Masako Nozawa as she has mastered it and all of the characters she voices feel and sound completely different. But yeah, you don't see me complaining about this.

Everyone has opinions and mine's is that I find the Funimation dub of Dragon Ball to be great. You have a different opinion and that's fine but don't look down on others for thinking differently.

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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:18 pm

It's not nearly as high pitched as you make it sound. You make it sound like her voice is high and squeaky like the Puar's. And Colleen's voices are incredibly varied. Her 18 doesn't sound anything like her Goku. Nozawa's voices are different, but they aren't completely different. All of this is irrelevant anyway, one's opinion on Colleen has no bearing on Nadolny's ability or lack thereof. She's a good singer, but not a good actress, at least not in Dragon Ball.
Everyone has opinions and mine's is that I find the Funimation dub of Dragon Ball to be great. You have a different opinion and that's fine but don't look down on others for thinking differently.
I didn't even bring it up or imply that's why I think it's great. This isn't about the voice, though that alone hurts the show's score, the dub very often takes liberties with dialog and characterization. These aren't obscure changes, it's stuff even dub fans should know. Goku would never say what he said in the proposal scene. Things like that take it out of the "marvelous category". Vollmer is awful and McFarland's Roshi is great with the comedy, but not the serious side, which is absolutely necessary for his character.
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Post by Iberian_Saiyan » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:22 pm

The point is that you have a different perspective about it. Period. I'm not interested in discussing it, I just wanted to post my opinion and that's that.

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Post by ABED » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:24 pm

Iberian_Saiyan wrote:The point is that you have a different perspective about it. Period. I'm not interested in discussing it, I just wanted to post my opinion and that's that.
But there's no arguing that the dub takes huge liberties with the source material.
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Post by Ajay » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:31 pm

Iberian_Saiyan wrote:I'm not interested in discussing it, I just wanted to post my opinion and that's that.
B-But you're on a forum not Twitter. If you post something here, you should at least be willing to discuss it, no?
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Bansho64 wrote:Wow B. I've never actually heard someone call the dub horrible. Can you give me some reasons why?
The acting is a combination of bad performances and miscast roles. Goku, Bulma, Kame Sennin, Yamcha, Colonel Silver, General White, and Commander Red all need serious work; those are all major characters. The scripting is lackluster a majority of the time; any and all sex humor is toned down significantly, and they've removed all insert songs. Those are kind of all important.

This could just be my own personal feelings, but I'm tired of giving this dub the pass of "not as bad as Z." It's become lazy and glosses over its problems. Kai and the recent films have a set a standard that this(and GT, and the Buu arc of Z) just does not measure up to.
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Post by Super Sonic » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:02 pm

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Bansho64 wrote:Wow B. I've never actually heard someone call the dub horrible. Can you give me some reasons why?
The acting is a combination of bad performances and miscast roles. Goku, Bulma, Kame Sennin, Yamcha, Colonel Silver, General White, and Commander Red all need serious work; those are all major characters. The scripting is lackluster a majority of the time; any and all sex humor is toned down significantly, and they've removed all insert songs. Those are kind of all important.
So who would you have cast in these roles? And no Funimation regulars born after 1983 as at the time, most of them were in high school or younger.

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Post by precita » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:15 pm

Kid Goku's voice is great. Fits him perfectly.

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Post by Theophrastus » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:32 pm

B wrote:-I wish they didn't give a bunch of extras accents the way they did.
Pretty sure that was mainly at attempt at disguising the fact that their talent pool was still kind of limited at the time (it's rather telling that the dub credits for "Voice Actors" on any given episode are a list of like...8 or 9 people who aren't attributed to any specific characters).

Well, that and an attempt to be "flavorful" (or stereotypical) in the cases of like half of the Red Ribbon officers.

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