Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by funrush » Wed May 25, 2016 8:42 pm

I can see a few reasons. The first, but most minor being that they probably turned a few people off by remaking the two movies. Second is that it just hasn't been localized in any form yet. Not dubbed, not even subbed yet. I bet all general audiences know about the series is those episode 5 bad animation memes. They've waited too long to get a huge fanbase solely based on Funi/Crunchyroll subs, so the determiner will be how well the dub does. And even that might not do well if it gets thrown in a bad time slot. Plus, it's a sequel, and that always has stigma when it comes to bringing new people in. People will probably describe it to their friends as "the new DBZ show", and they might feel like they have to watch Z first, and they end up just putting the whole thing off.

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by lancerman » Wed May 25, 2016 9:51 pm

Very simple reason. Despite a hardcore contingent of sub fans, the majority of Dragon Ball viewers watch in the sub of their own language. It only being available in Japan has an impact. Also unlike the original release, in 2016 people who care enough can read the spoilers online, thus it's almost like a lot of us our getting a bootleg of it before the release. That is likely to make the North American release underwhelming.

For the record I could see them pulling a GT and completely skipping the first two arcs by airing the movies, and then releasing them as lost episodes later on.

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by pacz360 » Wed May 25, 2016 9:53 pm

1.cause its not good
2.no English dub/localized.
Besides obvious things there nothing about super that screams legendary or outstanding just.....meh besides goku going kkx10 there's isn't anything in super that makes superior or a worthy sequel to db/z anime. :thumbdown:

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by saiyanvegetable » Wed May 25, 2016 10:57 pm

Because it's a fucking horrible show. lol how is this even a question?

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Kuwabara » Thu May 26, 2016 1:48 am

I think a large part of it has to do with being the first Dragon Ball series widely disseminated during the Web 2.0 age. From the perspective of an American, Dragon Ball anything had a lot more mystique back when the Internet wasn't as big as it is now. Now, in terms of popular media, hardly anything's a big deal anymore besides the hyped up US network shows and Hollywood tentpole summer films. The fact that Super was released during this particular time could have been a major boon in terms of social media, and perhaps it would have been if the show was a little better as others have said, but Toei is incredibly cheap and completely out of touch with its global audience. They're in the animation business to sell toys in Japan.

Maybe things will pick up once it's dubbed, FUNimation will do a great job if Battle of Gods and Resurrection F are any indication. I also think it would be a great idea if they skipped to the Universe 6 arc if and when the show ends up on Toonami, the Super retellings of the movies are incredibly boring.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Thu May 26, 2016 2:03 am

Because it's new and available only in Japan.

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Black_Liger » Thu May 26, 2016 2:52 am

LMAO The fucking salt by some Super haters.

Anyways, I don't think it will have any cultural impact if it doesn't go beyond EoZ, why?. Easy.

The best thing about Dragon ball is that it grew with it's fanbase, Goku was a kid when it started, time passed until he was a father, then time past, his son grew up, time skips were a major asset in the show, it allowed for a great expansion. Super has been cool, but it lost this aspect, of course, it has somewhat been lessed Thanks to Pan, as she was first announced while still in her mother's belly, then we saw her grow from a point were she could barely lift her own head, to a point where she can speak and even fucking fly. So Thanks baby Pan.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by saiyanvegetable » Thu May 26, 2016 6:59 am

Black_Liger wrote:LMAO The fucking salt by some Super haters.

Anyways, I don't think it will have any cultural impact if it doesn't go beyond EoZ, why?. Easy.

The best thing about Dragon ball is that it grew with it's fanbase, Goku was a kid when it started, time passed until he was a father, then time past, his son grew up, time skips were a major asset in the show, it allowed for a great expansion. Super has been cool, but it lost this aspect, of course, it has somewhat been lessed Thanks to Pan, as she was first announced while still in her mother's belly, then we saw her grow from a point were she could barely lift her own head, to a point where she can speak and even fucking fly. So Thanks baby Pan.
You're going to blame the show's problems on pan, really? lol

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Post by rereboy » Thu May 26, 2016 7:04 am

precita wrote:And yet despite all this, its like nobody really cares. I don't see any talk of Super anywhere outside of Dragonball fan places, and that's it. We never expected to ever get a completely new Dragonball series, and yet here we are, and it feels...its "just there."
Because it's neither good or original enough to create that kind of impact.

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Thu May 26, 2016 7:11 am

saiyanvegetable wrote:
Black_Liger wrote:LMAO The fucking salt by some Super haters.

Anyways, I don't think it will have any cultural impact if it doesn't go beyond EoZ, why?. Easy.

The best thing about Dragon ball is that it grew with it's fanbase, Goku was a kid when it started, time passed until he was a father, then time past, his son grew up, time skips were a major asset in the show, it allowed for a great expansion. Super has been cool, but it lost this aspect, of course, it has somewhat been lessed Thanks to Pan, as she was first announced while still in her mother's belly, then we saw her grow from a point were she could barely lift her own head, to a point where she can speak and even fucking fly. So Thanks baby Pan.
You're going to blame the show's problems on pan, really? lol
What? He's saying that thanks to Pan, the show is growing with the fanbase, like it used to in the past.

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by saiyanvegetable » Thu May 26, 2016 8:30 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
saiyanvegetable wrote:
Black_Liger wrote:LMAO The fucking salt by some Super haters.

Anyways, I don't think it will have any cultural impact if it doesn't go beyond EoZ, why?. Easy.

The best thing about Dragon ball is that it grew with it's fanbase, Goku was a kid when it started, time passed until he was a father, then time past, his son grew up, time skips were a major asset in the show, it allowed for a great expansion. Super has been cool, but it lost this aspect, of course, it has somewhat been lessed Thanks to Pan, as she was first announced while still in her mother's belly, then we saw her grow from a point were she could barely lift her own head, to a point where she can speak and even fucking fly. So Thanks baby Pan.
You're going to blame the show's problems on pan, really? lol
What? He's saying that thanks to Pan, the show is growing with the fanbase, like it used to in the past.
whoops. but i'd still argue that baby pan hasn't added anything to the series since she's just a fan service afterthought

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by TekTheNinja » Thu May 26, 2016 11:04 am

saiyanvegetable wrote:Because it's a fucking horrible show. lol how is this even a question?
This and that it isn't dubbed anywhere yet.

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Thu May 26, 2016 11:48 am

Because it lacks heart. it's hard for people to be in love with it like with Z and ball and GT because when you watch them it wasn't a chore (save for maybe the first arc of GT and the great saiyaman saga)...super is very half assed in it's inconsistent writing and poor animation. It just rehashed 2 films for it's first 2 arcs and has a lot of flaws, lacking the heart of dragonball. Sadly Super will never be a big impact, more of a stain on dragonball's good name.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu May 26, 2016 11:53 am

It's simple.
It's only airing in Japan, where the only way for overseas fans to see it is using piracy. Unlike most of other animes.

Nowadays most animes are simulcasted by some company ike Crunchyroll, Viz Media or Funimation, and this makes them reach way more people.
It's normal you only see Dragon Ball fans taking about, because other people don't know where to look for.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Bullza » Thu May 26, 2016 11:55 am

Because the show hasn't even been airing for as much as 11 months yet nor has it even aired outside of Japan....

Despite that there's still Dragon Ball Super videos on YouTube with millions of views. Going by Google trends there's more people searching for Dragon Ball now than ever before.

https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=Dragon%20ball

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Thu May 26, 2016 11:57 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Because it lacks heart. it's hard for people to be in love with it like with Z and ball and GT because when you watch them it wasn't a chore (save for maybe the first arc of GT and the great saiyaman saga)...super is very half assed in it's inconsistent writing and poor animation. It just rehashed 2 films for it's first 2 arcs and has a lot of flaws, lacking the heart of dragonball. Sadly Super will never be a big impact, more of a stain on dragonball's good name.
Could you elaborate what having heart exactly means to DBZ & DBGT?
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Thu May 26, 2016 12:46 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Because it lacks heart. it's hard for people to be in love with it like with Z and ball and GT because when you watch them it wasn't a chore (save for maybe the first arc of GT and the great saiyaman saga)...super is very half assed in it's inconsistent writing and poor animation. It just rehashed 2 films for it's first 2 arcs and has a lot of flaws, lacking the heart of dragonball. Sadly Super will never be a big impact, more of a stain on dragonball's good name.
GT is the heartless one and a stain on Dragon Ball's name. It can't be compared to Super, let alone Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. It's a piece of shit, terrible fucking garbage of a series and forever will be.

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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by VegettoEX » Thu May 26, 2016 12:47 pm

Can we please provide some context with our arguments? There's really no point to just exclaiming something is shit. You've given no argument and nothing to discuss. If you want to shout obscenities into a void, perhaps social media is a better place! :)
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu May 26, 2016 2:15 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Because it lacks heart. it's hard for people to be in love with it like with Z and ball and GT because when you watch them it wasn't a chore (save for maybe the first arc of GT and the great saiyaman saga)...super is very half assed in it's inconsistent writing and poor animation. It just rehashed 2 films for it's first 2 arcs and has a lot of flaws, lacking the heart of dragonball. Sadly Super will never be a big impact, more of a stain on dragonball's good name.
GT is the heartless one and a stain on Dragon Ball's name. It can't be compared to Super, let alone Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. It's a piece of shit, terrible fucking garbage of a series and forever will be.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Thu May 26, 2016 2:26 pm

soppa saia people wrote: WE GET IT! You don't like GT, but do you need to talk about every thread ?
No, not every thread, just when it's needed.

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