Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

[Kuririn Fan]

There's no need to shoehorn him into the plot if he not going to contribute anything towards its progression just to keep his fanbase happy by having him appear more. That's counter-productive story telling.

Oh I fully agree, but the writing is what creates any needs no? Besides, I'd feel better knowing he's training while in the sidelines, a Saiyajin who doesn't feel the urge of training is what makes no sense IMO, moreover after the Frieza incident, he gave up a bit fast didn't he? All he said about protecting his wife and kid suddenly for nothing.

He also has human blood and doesn't like to fight.

[MadSaiyantist]

Gohan became the most prominent character in Dbz during the third arc. Future Trunks came to the present in the third arc of Dbz and Super. Have the stars aligned to make Gohan rise to the top again...? Probably not. He's happy with his life and is focused on being a good father and husband

[Kuririn Fan]

Gohan became the most prominent character in Dbz during the third arc. Future Trunks came to the present in the third arc of Dbz and Super. Have the stars aligned to make Gohan rise to the top again...? Probably not. He's happy with his life and is focused on being a good father and husband

This is Super's 4th arc.

[MadSaiyantist]

Oh yeah...well so much for that. Universe 6 tournament went by too quickly

[Kagari]

U6 arc was really short. Hopefully this new one goes on a bit longer.

[HeroR]

U6 arc was really short. Hopefully this new one goes on a bit longer.

It wasn't that short, it was about 14 episodes which is a good length for an anime original. The average tournament arc in Dragon Ball was about that long and they had padding.

[PsionicWarrior]

There's no need to shoehorn him into the plot if he not going to contribute anything towards its progression just to keep his fanbase happy by having him appear more. That's counter-productive story telling.

Oh I fully agree, but the writing is what creates any needs no? Besides, I'd feel better knowing he's training while in the sidelines, a Saiyajin who doesn't feel the urge of training is what makes no sense IMO, moreover after the Frieza incident, he gave up a bit fast didn't he? All he said about protecting his wife and kid suddenly for nothing.

He also has human blood and doesn't like to fight.

While it is true he doesn't get as excited as his father or Vegeta I disagree he doesn't like to fight, he still was the Great Saiyaman (or whatever it was called?) in the Buu arc and seemed to enjoy the hell of it, also his mother is not really the quiet and passive type.

[Kuririn Fan]

He likes to fight for justice as superhero or whatever, but when he is forced to fight - he doesn't want to, he needs the rage factor.

[PsionicWarrior]

he needs the rage factor.

Yes that is very on point.
I still have a hard time swallowing the fact he dropped the training program he intended to start with Piccolo just like that, as if he forgot the situation he was in while being totally harmless vs Freeza in his green joggings.

[Zenkashuu]

We need more jobbers, Vegeta has monopoly right now.

[Kagari]

he needs the rage factor.

Yes that is very on point.
I still have a hard time swallowing the fact he dropped the training program he intended to start with Piccolo just like that, as if he forgot the situation he was in while being totally harmless vs Freeza in his green joggings.

We don't know if he stopped doing that or not since most of it happened off-screen.

[amuroray]

What about gohan?

Gohans peak was at namek. After that he was a mess.

[ChronoTwigger]

...and Goten...
...and Trunks...
...and Piccolo...
...and Kai...
...and Ten Shin Han...

Maybe having all of them will turn a series AGAIN into something like GT, and staff didn't want for. Even with 2 active characters (Goku and Vegeta) Champa arc was enough complex to create some hype, guess on our side and plot twists.
Leaving Gohan away simplified things, and I approve the choice.

[PsionicWarrior]

We don't know if he stopped doing that or not since most of it happened off-screen.

That's a nice thought but sadly nothing really implies it.

Gohans peak was at namek. After that he was a mess.

Lol what?

...and Goten...
...and Trunks...
...and Piccolo...
...and Kai...
...and Ten Shin Han...

Maybe having all of them will turn a series AGAIN into something like GT, and staff didn't want for. Even with 2 active characters (Goku and Vegeta) Champa arc was enough complex to create some hype, guess on our side and plot twists.
Leaving Gohan away simplified things, and I approve the choice.

I'm only asking about Gohan here, the topic is not named "what about everybody but Goku and Vegeta".
I didn't find the Champa arc to be particularly complex, but I can't understand how "simplifying things" can be something positive. Ok, better than messing everything up, but still, can't we expect a bit more?

[Kagari]

We don't know if he stopped doing that or not since most of it happened off-screen.

That's a nice thought but sadly nothing really implies it.

Gohans peak was at namek. After that he was a mess.

Lol what?

...and Goten...
...and Trunks...
...and Piccolo...
...and Kai...
...and Ten Shin Han...

Maybe having all of them will turn a series AGAIN into something like GT, and staff didn't want for. Even with 2 active characters (Goku and Vegeta) Champa arc was enough complex to create some hype, guess on our side and plot twists.
Leaving Gohan away simplified things, and I approve the choice.

I'm only asking about Gohan here, the topic is not named "what about everybody but Goku and Vegeta".
I didn't find the Champa arc to be particularly complex, but I can't understand how "simplifying things" can be something positive. Ok, better than messing everything up, but still, can't we expect a bit more?

It doesn't seem like much time has passed since the end of the tournament and we just had an episode (43) where he showed up to turn down a job that would keep him off screen.

[amuroray]

We don't know if he stopped doing that or not since most of it happened off-screen.

That's a nice thought but sadly nothing really implies it.

Gohans peak was at namek. After that he was a mess.

Lol what?

...and Goten...
...and Trunks...
...and Piccolo...
...and Kai...
...and Ten Shin Han...

Maybe having all of them will turn a series AGAIN into something like GT, and staff didn't want for. Even with 2 active characters (Goku and Vegeta) Champa arc was enough complex to create some hype, guess on our side and plot twists.
Leaving Gohan away simplified things, and I approve the choice.

I'm only asking about Gohan here, the topic is not named "what about everybody but Goku and Vegeta".
I didn't find the Champa arc to be particularly complex, but I can't understand how "simplifying things" can be something positive. Ok, better than messing everything up, but still, can't we expect a bit more?

Gohan was a scrappy brave character in namekHe was punching waay above his weight. wasnt a pussy or a crying bitch like he was for the rest of the series.

[PsionicWarrior]

It doesn't seem like much time has passed since the end of the tournament and we just had an episode (43) where he showed up to turn down a job that would keep him off screen.

Hmm, I would like to think that, I have my doubts, but as you said earlier indeed we don't really know.

Gohan was a scrappy brave character in namekHe was punching waay above his weight. wasnt a pussy or a crying bitch like he was for the rest of the series.

Yeah he was a crying little baby when he weakened Raditz enough for him to get held back by a Goku with broken ribs, or was he a pussy during the Cell arc, or was it against Buu after his training on Kai planet? lol
You don't like the character and that's OK, I have no issue with that, but you're just saying plain nonsense here.

[Kagari]

At this point we'll just have to wait and see. Before the tournament Gohan said he wanted to see the results of his training with Piccolo. Given the show has continued to reference other things so far I'm of the belief we will get to see that at some point, even if it's something Toei drew up themselves.

[ChronoTwigger]

I'm only asking about Gohan here, the topic is not named "what about everybody but Goku and Vegeta".
I didn't find the Champa arc to be particularly complex, but I can't understand how "simplifying things" can be something positive. Ok, better than messing everything up, but still, can't we expect a bit more?

I think the reason that put Gohan out of the focus was the same for all the other characters, that's all.
Simplifying could be correct, if that's the goal you aim for.
OF COURSE if the goal is to create simple, self contained arcs like Super so far, the less cast you have to manage, the better. Think of the horrible rumble of RoF arc...

Champa arc was complex in a narrative sense: Goku since the start was stronger than anyone, they needed to find a way to having him loose 2 times, faking the whole Monaka stuff, having Vegeta win most of the time, find a way for Hit to be interesting... for a simple tournament arc, was pretty complex. Well, nothing like DBZ, but again, there's another philosophy behind Super.

Gohan is born as a straightforward fighting character, he did nothing at all than fight for large part of his life, and in a narrative sense was nothing than a Kid Goku retelling. In a comedy role, he can't do nothing. He was underdeveloped since the start. Piccolo get more chances to shine, being perfect for some gag, and that's why you'll seen him often.

But, as people before me, if the new arc is more fight oriented and dramatic, Gohan could shine once more: he fit better in these context.

[namekiansaiyan]

The way Dragon ball is now, Gohan's character does not fit. Gohan is useless unless he is the strongest and is not good at progressing the story like Piccolo, Jaco and Bulma as his main characteristic is being a nerd. Gohan was never the 'main' focus and is now in the same group as Krillin for relevancy and nothing indicates that will change. Gohan fans only like him because of what he did to Cell but before that no one really cared about him and thats what I don't get about Gohan fans and that is they live of 1 moment and also maybe him fighting against Buu. The point is that people have liked Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Krillin and the rest since they were first introduced so they should be concerned what happens to them as Gohan is a 1 hit wonder.