Is There A SSJ4? (NOT GT)

[TheatreStyleKai]

There already is a form that goes beyond Super Saiyan 3.

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[Xeztin]

I wonder if Trunks could possibly go SSJ 2.5 or something (Hair in between 3 and GT's 4) because of his Hybrid blood. I don't think he'll obtain god ki through training with Vegeta, but a form between 2 and 3 would be plausible. A 4th Super Saiyan beyond 3 just sounds like way too much and if it creates a new body like GT's version then it's not following the original pattern of the first 3 like the OP asked. It seemed like Goku struggled with SSJ3 even dead, so maybe the only way a 4th form is possible is to be fused and dead?

Maybe something like this for a possible 4 on left and a 2.5 on the right? (Without the tail and fur) [spoiler][/spoiler]My requirements for SSJ4 would be fused and dead and for SSJ 2.5 it'd be a Saiyan/Human hybrid I suppose.

[successoroffate]

I think it's possible because if we take SSJ3 as the point where Goku peaked, we have to remember that he did so without his tail. I still think the Tail would play a huge role in Goku reaching SSJ4 or something similar in the future. Also, before GT, the SSJ4 was somehow acknowledged a couple of times in DBZ through flashbacks. Not to mention that the Supreme Old KAI Knew about the transformation before hand.
I think the SSJ4 that exists outsidw GT is in a general scope as a "Legendary Super Saiyan" or As I call it "Primal SSJ"

[Ozotto]

If I was to draw SSJ4 in the golden branch, i'm not sure how i'd draw it.

I'm thinking i'd have the SSJ4 GT hairstyle, but instead of black, make it gold.
I wouldn't include the fur or tail, or anything like that.
Probably keep the SSJ3 pronounced fore brow.

I feel like that would look like a controlled next level beyond 'unstable' ssj3.

But Idk I'm happy with the original 3 forms.

[Kingdom Heartless]

It seems odd to me that Vegeta would suggest Cabba could reach Blue with training. There must be some special circumstances for achieving "God" ki.... which I would assume in Vegeta's case was training an a godly atmosphere.