Things have gotten too weird - Mai
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You know, after all these years of watching anime, whenever I see pedophilia in it I just shrug and go "oh dem japanese. Just as long as they never go near my kids if I ever have any".
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Re: Things have gotten too weird - Mai
I don't see what is weird about it at all.
Mai = A grown woman who never aged into an old old woman. Also her entire life was spent adventuring more or less so she maintained a youthful outlook on life.
Kid Trunks = A kid.
Future Trunks = An adult.
Mai has a crush on FT = Perfectly normal either way. I had a crush on my first grade teacher. So if she is a child its fine and if she is an older woman its fine.
FT is oblivious = He shows no interest in Mai beyond "Oh she is the counterpart to my Mai and its nice to see her again".
Kid Trunks has a crush on Mai = Normal because he's a kid and she has a kid body.
Mai doesn't like Kid Trunks = Normal. Even if she did it's not a huge issue. Like doesnt = sex. I mean Kid Trunks is very sweet and caring to her and on some level she probably thinks he is sweet...plus knows he grows up at least looking like FT.
Mai = A grown woman who never aged into an old old woman. Also her entire life was spent adventuring more or less so she maintained a youthful outlook on life.
Kid Trunks = A kid.
Future Trunks = An adult.
Mai has a crush on FT = Perfectly normal either way. I had a crush on my first grade teacher. So if she is a child its fine and if she is an older woman its fine.
FT is oblivious = He shows no interest in Mai beyond "Oh she is the counterpart to my Mai and its nice to see her again".
Kid Trunks has a crush on Mai = Normal because he's a kid and she has a kid body.
Mai doesn't like Kid Trunks = Normal. Even if she did it's not a huge issue. Like doesnt = sex. I mean Kid Trunks is very sweet and caring to her and on some level she probably thinks he is sweet...plus knows he grows up at least looking like FT.
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Re: Things have gotten too weird - Mai
Honestly, what makes me roll my eyes is that so many more people seem to be against Kid Mai X Future Trunks than against Kid Mai X Kid Trunks. Because here is the thing; "Kid" Mai isn't a kid. She looks like one but she is not one. So no mater how you slice it, the very implication of Kid Mai being interested in Kid Trunks is pedophilia, plain and simple. And pedohilia is a no-no.
Kid Mai X future Trunks on the other hand is NOT pedophilia. It may LOOK like pedophilia, but it is not. You can still be creeped out by it of course, but it seems to me that any remotely morally aware human sjould be able to see that it is miles better than the genuinly pedophilic relationship that a Kid Mai X Kid Trunks relationship would be.
...also, I bet the word "pedophilia" has been uttered like twenty times more frequently on this forum since Battle of Gods came out than it had been prior to that. Pretty soon we're all gonna end up on some kind of secret government list.
Kid Mai X future Trunks on the other hand is NOT pedophilia. It may LOOK like pedophilia, but it is not. You can still be creeped out by it of course, but it seems to me that any remotely morally aware human sjould be able to see that it is miles better than the genuinly pedophilic relationship that a Kid Mai X Kid Trunks relationship would be.
...also, I bet the word "pedophilia" has been uttered like twenty times more frequently on this forum since Battle of Gods came out than it had been prior to that. Pretty soon we're all gonna end up on some kind of secret government list.
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What if Mai's brain also aged downward too? It's natural for people to have a sexual interest for people their age, so if Mai's brain aged downward with the rest of her body (since it is part of her body), then her liking Kid Trunks isn't pedophile at all.Puaru wrote:Honestly, what makes me roll my eyes is that so many more people seem to be against Kid Mai X Future Trunks than against Kid Mai X Kid Trunks. Because here is the thing; "Kid" Mai isn't a kid. She looks like one but she is not one. So no mater how you slice it, the very implication of Kid Mai being interested in Kid Trunks is pedophilia, plain and simple. And pedohilia is a no-no.
Kid Mai X future Trunks on the other hand is NOT pedophilia. It may LOOK like pedophilia, but it is not. You can still be creeped out by it of course, but it seems to me that any remotely morally aware human sjould be able to see that it is miles better than the genuinly pedophilic relationship that a Kid Mai X Kid Trunks relationship would be.
...also, I bet the word "pedophilia" has been uttered like twenty times more frequently on this forum since Battle of Gods came out than it had been prior to that. Pretty soon we're all gonna end up on some kind of secret government list.
Besides, this is still nothing to Oolong kidnapping a bunch of little girls so he can rape them. Or drugging Bulma so he can rape her. Or literally anything Master Roshi does haha.
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Is it pedophilia though? Wouldn't the definition be someone over a certain age who likes someone under a certain age? Mai is physically a child...its hard to really explain due to the unique circumstances but here is a decent one.Puaru wrote:Honestly, what makes me roll my eyes is that so many more people seem to be against Kid Mai X Future Trunks than against Kid Mai X Kid Trunks. Because here is the thing; "Kid" Mai isn't a kid. She looks like one but she is not one. So no mater how you slice it, the very implication of Kid Mai being interested in Kid Trunks is pedophilia, plain and simple. And pedohilia is a no-no.
Kid Mai X future Trunks on the other hand is NOT pedophilia. It may LOOK like pedophilia, but it is not. You can still be creeped out by it of course, but it seems to me that any remotely morally aware human sjould be able to see that it is miles better than the genuinly pedophilic relationship that a Kid Mai X Kid Trunks relationship would be.
...also, I bet the word "pedophilia" has been uttered like twenty times more frequently on this forum since Battle of Gods came out than it had been prior to that. Pretty soon we're all gonna end up on some kind of secret government list.
A child who is a genius probably has the mental ability and state of a much older person. Would it be pedophilia for them to like someone their own physical age? I know it is slightly different but when physical bodies are the same we are talking about mental differences.
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The mis-spoken wish had the Dragon turn the Pilaf gang into kids, so they are kids.Puaru wrote: She looks like one but she is not one.
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Mai is a cougar.
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Re: Things have gotten too weird - Mai
This. Stuff is obviously weird since its fiction so its difficult to really try to say stuff may or may not be what you think. But that being said while she may have retained her memories of her life up to this point either way, she still has reverted in her entirety into a child. That would include her brain. Its apart of her body. So its perfectly feasible to me to imagine that she is in all aspects a child who also has memories of her life before she reverted. Not that they were in any way mature to begin with even when they were adults, just look at the way they all act. They are children who act like children. Pretty good evidence to me.Hero wrote:What if Mai's brain also aged downward too? It's natural for people to have a sexual interest for people their age, so if Mai's brain aged downward with the rest of her body (since it is part of her body), then her liking Kid Trunks isn't pedophile at all.Puaru wrote:Honestly, what makes me roll my eyes is that so many more people seem to be against Kid Mai X Future Trunks than against Kid Mai X Kid Trunks. Because here is the thing; "Kid" Mai isn't a kid. She looks like one but she is not one. So no mater how you slice it, the very implication of Kid Mai being interested in Kid Trunks is pedophilia, plain and simple. And pedohilia is a no-no.
Kid Mai X future Trunks on the other hand is NOT pedophilia. It may LOOK like pedophilia, but it is not. You can still be creeped out by it of course, but it seems to me that any remotely morally aware human sjould be able to see that it is miles better than the genuinly pedophilic relationship that a Kid Mai X Kid Trunks relationship would be.
...also, I bet the word "pedophilia" has been uttered like twenty times more frequently on this forum since Battle of Gods came out than it had been prior to that. Pretty soon we're all gonna end up on some kind of secret government list.
Besides, this is still nothing to Oolong kidnapping a bunch of little girls so he can rape them. Or drugging Bulma so he can rape her. Or literally anything Master Roshi does haha.
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Kid Mai picturing Future Trunks kissing her in the recent episode was pretty weird.
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Is it? That's pretty usual for a child that has a crush on an older person.Krillin1994 wrote:Kid Mai picturing Future Trunks kissing her in the recent episode was pretty weird.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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The crush is one thing, but animating her imagination of it.
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Yeah, most kids dream of their crushes like that. Though, why she's dreaming of it happen in th center of a destroyed city is questionable...Krillin1994 wrote:The crush is one thing, but animating her imagination of it.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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I'm not denying they imagine that, but seeing the imagination of a child adult relationship isn't something I've seen before.Kanassa wrote:Yeah, most kids dream of their crushes like that. Though, why she's dreaming of it happen in th center of a destroyed city is questionable...Krillin1994 wrote:The crush is one thing, but animating her imagination of it.
I presume it was in the center of the destroyed city because she got told she died. So she was envisioning a kiss of life style scenario.
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I've never seen an anime do it, but I've seen it for plenty of American kids shows.Krillin1994 wrote:I'm not denying they imagine that, but seeing the imagination of a child adult relationship isn't something I've seen before.Kanassa wrote:Yeah, most kids dream of their crushes like that. Though, why she's dreaming of it happen in th center of a destroyed city is questionable...Krillin1994 wrote:The crush is one thing, but animating her imagination of it.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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But are these kids shown to be prepbuesecent?Kanassa wrote:I've never seen an anime do it, but I've seen it for plenty of American kids shows.Krillin1994 wrote:I'm not denying they imagine that, but seeing the imagination of a child adult relationship isn't something I've seen before.Kanassa wrote: Yeah, most kids dream of their crushes like that. Though, why she's dreaming of it happen in th center of a destroyed city is questionable...
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Yes, why?Krillin1994 wrote:But are these kids shown to be prepbuesecent?Kanassa wrote:I've never seen an anime do it, but I've seen it for plenty of American kids shows.Krillin1994 wrote:
I'm not denying they imagine that, but seeing the imagination of a child adult relationship isn't something I've seen before.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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Re: Things have gotten too weird - Mai
I dunno, it just seems weird.
I get the sorts of tropes of secondary school kids having crushes on teachers and that and I know plenty of western shows have done that.
I even know Simpsons have done crushes on teenage heartthrobs for Lisa (corey hotline comes to mind) and full adult crushes i.e Mr Bergstrom. but we didn't get full blown imagination sequences of Lisa about to kiss him did we.
I get the sorts of tropes of secondary school kids having crushes on teachers and that and I know plenty of western shows have done that.
I even know Simpsons have done crushes on teenage heartthrobs for Lisa (corey hotline comes to mind) and full adult crushes i.e Mr Bergstrom. but we didn't get full blown imagination sequences of Lisa about to kiss him did we.
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It never bothered me, especially not in a story full of genocide, and overall weirdness.
Also, in anime in general, no matter how old characters are, if they end up in young body, their mental age sort of stop to have any meaning - for instance characters which look like they are 12, but have lived for hundreds of years.
As for Mai herself, the current one, it always seemed to me, even before DB Movie 14 happened that she never really matured as woman, or a person.
Also, in anime in general, no matter how old characters are, if they end up in young body, their mental age sort of stop to have any meaning - for instance characters which look like they are 12, but have lived for hundreds of years.
As for Mai herself, the current one, it always seemed to me, even before DB Movie 14 happened that she never really matured as woman, or a person.
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Re: Things have gotten too weird - Mai
Isn't Lil'Trunks seven or eight?
Isn't the age of consent in japan 13?
Isn't the age of consent in japan 13?
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Re: Things have gotten too weird - Mai
In Majin Buu saga he's eight, yes.
In Movie 14, where they seemingly started dating, Trunks is twelve.
In Movie 14, where they seemingly started dating, Trunks is twelve.