Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by Kishido » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:12 pm

Cuz plot... It is stupid but neded so far

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by buutenks » Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:14 pm

Cos Black would have knocked the god out of kaio ^^

He would have been useless vs Black. He was useful vs Dabura because Trunks had the power to destroy him. Vs Black, Trunks is powerless vs Black.

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:11 pm

jplaya2023 wrote:out of universe - it's a plot hole

in universe - because i have no idea honestly. If beerus can deduce it's a kaioshin, then shin should know as well and should want to stop it.
Something not being explained doesn't mean it's a plot hole.

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by FoolsGil » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:35 am

I guess the writers and the artists didn't want to add extra writing and animation for them. A shame because man, if they could get the Z Sword out and break it, boom Mystic Trunks!

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by Friezacooler » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:56 am

buutenks wrote:Cos Black would have knocked the god out of kaio ^^

He would have been useless vs Black. He was useful vs Dabura because Trunks had the power to destroy him. Vs Black, Trunks is powerless vs Black.
Are you implying Kaioshin to be weaker then ssj2 Goku DBZ even after Potara Fusion. But they are stronger then Frieza and the other andriods without it?.

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by HeroR » Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:18 am

It was already stated by Gawasu that the Kais are not allow to interfere with the affairs of mortals. As utterly nasty as Freeza was, he's still a mortal and untouchable to the Kais unless he posed to be an universe threat like Buu, as in the universe being destroyed. The Gods of Destruction are the only gods who are allowed to directly interact with mortals, hence why Beerus had relationships with Freeza, King Vegeta, ect.
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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:30 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:Well let me throw this against the wall and see if it sticks.

Kaioshin are creators yes...but they aren't supposed to interfere in their work. As mentioned Buu posed a threat against the Gods. Others were threats to conquer or destroy the entire universe which I suppose was an act worth interfering over.

In the case of Black he simply despises mortals. The way of the Gods seems to be to let the mortals decide their own fate.
It sticks for me.

As King Kai mentioned: "To enable balance and harmony, if there gods that create there will also be gods that destroy. "

The Kaio refuse to do anything about Beerus the god of destruction though he is a dreaded entity, since he is just doing his job. And they are prepared to let the mortal beings go about their own business, and will only interfere in situations that are out of control (eg Buu).


But we don't know yet the full story, surely the gods would need to interfere for this situation. We shall have to see.
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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by Mazingerdestro » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:20 am

Because the earth's kaioshins are weak.
Also usually kaioshins don't help in human businesses.
Lastly, probably black murdered them

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by jplaya2023 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:40 am

HeroR wrote:It was already stated by Gawasu that the Kais are not allow to interfere with the affairs of mortals. As utterly nasty as Freeza was, he's still a mortal and untouchable to the Kais unless he posed to be an universe threat like Buu, as in the universe being destroyed. The Gods of Destruction are the only gods who are allowed to directly interact with mortals, hence why Beerus had relationships with Freeza, King Vegeta, ect.
but black is a kaioshin disguised as a human. That's more than enough reason to interfere. Also, they got in the way of buu who was a djinn and not a kaio either.

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by Mazingerdestro » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:11 am

jplaya2023 wrote:
HeroR wrote:It was already stated by Gawasu that the Kais are not allow to interfere with the affairs of mortals. As utterly nasty as Freeza was, he's still a mortal and untouchable to the Kais unless he posed to be an universe threat like Buu, as in the universe being destroyed. The Gods of Destruction are the only gods who are allowed to directly interact with mortals, hence why Beerus had relationships with Freeza, King Vegeta, ect.
but black is a kaioshin disguised as a human. That's more than enough reason to interfere. Also, they got in the way of buu who was a djinn and not a kaio either.
I am pretty sure that Black is nothing. He has no title and basically Zamasu is using him as a scapegoat to do his work.
As a kaioshin he can't interfere but OH LOOK!!!! a random saiyan killing people, who has nothing to do with the Kaioshins or Zamasu in genral.
Zamasu will probably be revealed to murder Gowasu or sealing him and then "accepting the hakaishin way"

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by Lionel » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:33 am

East Kaioshin likely wouldn't be able to do much of anything against Black. At best he's stronger than the Buu arc Base Saiyans with his magic being SSJ2 tier. Black is sitting somewhere high above that position. I'm not even sure if a hypothetical Buu arc SSJ3 Vegetto could take him, and if it's revealed he has a Super Saiyan form of his own, he'll probably be giving SSJB a hard time.

It stands to reason that East Kaioshin should be in training after all this time like his U10 counterpart. He was considered to be the youngest and most inexperienced of his group. Surely if he committed himself in the same way Zamasu has he could make enough gains to be a contributory force for Trunks against Black; or at the very least he could maybe provide teleportation.

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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:45 am

I don't expect East Kaioshin to physically fight Black. But man, where's the Z sword? Why isn't he communicating with Trunks and giving him advice? lol. This guy killed Dabura and Babidi, and stopped Buu from hatching!
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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by HeroR » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:40 pm

jplaya2023 wrote:
HeroR wrote:It was already stated by Gawasu that the Kais are not allow to interfere with the affairs of mortals. As utterly nasty as Freeza was, he's still a mortal and untouchable to the Kais unless he posed to be an universe threat like Buu, as in the universe being destroyed. The Gods of Destruction are the only gods who are allowed to directly interact with mortals, hence why Beerus had relationships with Freeza, King Vegeta, ect.
but black is a kaioshin disguised as a human. That's more than enough reason to interfere. Also, they got in the way of buu who was a djinn and not a kaio either.
That an assumption, not a fact at the moment.
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Re: Why hasn't the Kaioshin helped Future Trunks against Black?

Post by Zillamon51 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:35 am

He's busy flying around the dark outer reaches of the universe, looking for a safe place to stash Buu's egg.
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