[spoiler]Of course they would
They're fodders
Sometimes you can get attached to fodder too, like in this Amiga game, later on every time i lost soldier, i've repeated mission https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJB_1e-MlyYNeo-Makaiōshin wrote:Every minor fodder character in the series, particulary Freeza's Army soldiers, they only show up to be killed without shinning or being flesh out![]()
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Not to mention it not only was just a poor reattempt the same scene, just to give Gohan some legitimacy but all I got from it was redundancy, and heavier proof provided that deaths mean nothing. Piccolo being wished back off-screen and having tea a scene later is where I cringed.HybridSaiyan wrote:I agree with this one. Probably the worst death scene in all of DB. Didn't have significance, and it just looked plain awkward. It makes me cringe lol.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Piccolo in the Super Resrrection F arc. Poor attempt at a throwback to his death in the Saiyan saga.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
How is that pointless?Rubens wrote:I'm going with Chaozu in Piccolo Daimao arc. I mean, Piccolo summons Shenlong, Tenshinhan telephatically tells Chaozu to antecipate his wish, Chaozu jumps out in to the open and Piccolo kills him with a simple blast before he says a word.... just pointless.
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Piccolo in the Super Resrrection F arc. Poor attempt at a throwback to his death in the Saiyan saga.
Second-ed on Recoome's death for most undignified. It is sort of hilarious but incredibly embarrassing.ABED wrote:How is that pointless?Rubens wrote:I'm going with Chaozu in Piccolo Daimao arc. I mean, Piccolo summons Shenlong, Tenshinhan telephatically tells Chaozu to antecipate his wish, Chaozu jumps out in to the open and Piccolo kills him with a simple blast before he says a word.... just pointless.
I have to go with Reacoom. He's bent over with his ass up in the air hanging out and is then opportunistically murdered by Vegeta.
Yes, I did mean plotwise. I suppose you're correct for not being a completly undignified death.Netter75 wrote:Second-ed on Recoome's death for most undignified. It is sort of hilarious but incredibly embarrassing.ABED wrote:How is that pointless?Rubens wrote:I'm going with Chaozu in Piccolo Daimao arc. I mean, Piccolo summons Shenlong, Tenshinhan telephatically tells Chaozu to antecipate his wish, Chaozu jumps out in to the open and Piccolo kills him with a simple blast before he says a word.... just pointless.
I have to go with Reacoom. He's bent over with his ass up in the air hanging out and is then opportunistically murdered by Vegeta.
I think he means its pointless from a plot perspective, which is sorta true. The events of the arc would probably have been the same even if Chiaotzu were removed and had to sit on his hands at Kame House with Yamcha, Bulma, Launch, Puar, and Oolong.
But here is why overall its not pointless, at least for me: we are just talking about the actual events. The same can be argued for his role in the Saiyan Arc: but while his training and sacrifice impacted the plot very minimally (along with Tien and Yamcha), I'll vehemently argue that his presence was essential to the tone and atmosphere. The Saiyan fight feels unbelievably hopeless after these three are killed, and something similar happens in the Piccolo Daimao Arc. Chiaotzu, at this point, is an accomplished martial artist and is killed easily by Daimao. He is also the first and only major character to be killed by Daimao, making the villain even more legit threat. The tone of desperation was now cemented since Chiaotzu was the third main cast member to be killed in quick succession within a series where no cast member had yet died. We also root for Tien a bit more because of his friends death, which makes his failure to trap Daimao with the Mafuba later in the arc all the more impactful.
Daimao is also the first true "big bad" of DB, and Chiaotzu's death sort of shows that clever tricks won't be as effective from that point forward as they were against previous villains, and that pure fighting will have a larger role.
So from a plot perspective, pointless death. From an overall standpoint, essential IMO. It's also hard for me to call a direct sacrifice totally undignified.