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Re: Most undignified death

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:44 am

Every minor fodder character in the series, particulary Freeza's Army soldiers, they only show up to be killed without shinning or being flesh out :thumbdown:
[spoiler]Of course they would :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Most undignified death

Post by coola » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:28 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Every minor fodder character in the series, particulary Freeza's Army soldiers, they only show up to be killed without shinning or being flesh out :thumbdown:
[spoiler]Of course they would :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
They're fodders :lolno:[/spoiler]
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Re: Most undignified death

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:45 pm

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Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Piccolo in the Super Resrrection F arc. Poor attempt at a throwback to his death in the Saiyan saga.
I agree with this one. Probably the worst death scene in all of DB. Didn't have significance, and it just looked plain awkward. It makes me cringe lol.
Not to mention it not only was just a poor reattempt the same scene, just to give Gohan some legitimacy but all I got from it was redundancy, and heavier proof provided that deaths mean nothing. Piccolo being wished back off-screen and having tea a scene later is where I cringed.

The worst death scene for me was also in that arc. It was the sequence when all the families were supposed to be dying from Freeza's last attack. You kill off everyone in a split second, then you reverse it so they don't even recall what millisecond of them being aware of it even happening. Come on.
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Re: Most undignified death

Post by ABED » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:21 pm

Rubens wrote:I'm going with Chaozu in Piccolo Daimao arc. I mean, Piccolo summons Shenlong, Tenshinhan telephatically tells Chaozu to antecipate his wish, Chaozu jumps out in to the open and Piccolo kills him with a simple blast before he says a word.... just pointless.
How is that pointless?

I have to go with Reacoom. He's bent over with his ass up in the air hanging out and is then opportunistically murdered by Vegeta.
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Re: Most undignified death

Post by Gold_Jacobson » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:05 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Piccolo in the Super Resrrection F arc. Poor attempt at a throwback to his death in the Saiyan saga.

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Re: Most undignified death

Post by Netter75 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:45 pm

ABED wrote:
Rubens wrote:I'm going with Chaozu in Piccolo Daimao arc. I mean, Piccolo summons Shenlong, Tenshinhan telephatically tells Chaozu to antecipate his wish, Chaozu jumps out in to the open and Piccolo kills him with a simple blast before he says a word.... just pointless.
How is that pointless?

I have to go with Reacoom. He's bent over with his ass up in the air hanging out and is then opportunistically murdered by Vegeta.
Second-ed on Recoome's death for most undignified. It is sort of hilarious but incredibly embarrassing.

I think he means its pointless from a plot perspective, which is sorta true. The events of the arc would probably have been the same even if Chiaotzu were removed and had to sit on his hands at Kame House with Yamcha, Bulma, Launch, Puar, and Oolong.

But here is why overall its not pointless, at least for me: we are just talking about the actual events. The same can be argued for his role in the Saiyan Arc: but while his training and sacrifice impacted the plot very minimally (along with Tien and Yamcha), I'll vehemently argue that his presence was essential to the tone and atmosphere. The Saiyan fight feels unbelievably hopeless after these three are killed, and something similar happens in the Piccolo Daimao Arc. Chiaotzu, at this point, is an accomplished martial artist and is killed easily by Daimao. He is also the first and only major character to be killed by Daimao, making the villain even more legit threat. The tone of desperation was now cemented since Chiaotzu was the third main cast member to be killed in quick succession within a series where no cast member had yet died. We also root for Tien a bit more because of his friends death, which makes his failure to trap Daimao with the Mafuba later in the arc all the more impactful.

Daimao is also the first true "big bad" of DB, and Chiaotzu's death sort of shows that clever tricks won't be as effective from that point forward as they were against previous villains, and that pure fighting will have a larger role.

So from a plot perspective, pointless death. From an overall standpoint, essential IMO. It's also hard for me to call a direct sacrifice totally undignified.
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Re: Most undignified death

Post by Rubens » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:55 am

Netter75 wrote:
ABED wrote:
Rubens wrote:I'm going with Chaozu in Piccolo Daimao arc. I mean, Piccolo summons Shenlong, Tenshinhan telephatically tells Chaozu to antecipate his wish, Chaozu jumps out in to the open and Piccolo kills him with a simple blast before he says a word.... just pointless.
How is that pointless?

I have to go with Reacoom. He's bent over with his ass up in the air hanging out and is then opportunistically murdered by Vegeta.
Second-ed on Recoome's death for most undignified. It is sort of hilarious but incredibly embarrassing.

I think he means its pointless from a plot perspective, which is sorta true. The events of the arc would probably have been the same even if Chiaotzu were removed and had to sit on his hands at Kame House with Yamcha, Bulma, Launch, Puar, and Oolong.

But here is why overall its not pointless, at least for me: we are just talking about the actual events. The same can be argued for his role in the Saiyan Arc: but while his training and sacrifice impacted the plot very minimally (along with Tien and Yamcha), I'll vehemently argue that his presence was essential to the tone and atmosphere. The Saiyan fight feels unbelievably hopeless after these three are killed, and something similar happens in the Piccolo Daimao Arc. Chiaotzu, at this point, is an accomplished martial artist and is killed easily by Daimao. He is also the first and only major character to be killed by Daimao, making the villain even more legit threat. The tone of desperation was now cemented since Chiaotzu was the third main cast member to be killed in quick succession within a series where no cast member had yet died. We also root for Tien a bit more because of his friends death, which makes his failure to trap Daimao with the Mafuba later in the arc all the more impactful.

Daimao is also the first true "big bad" of DB, and Chiaotzu's death sort of shows that clever tricks won't be as effective from that point forward as they were against previous villains, and that pure fighting will have a larger role.

So from a plot perspective, pointless death. From an overall standpoint, essential IMO. It's also hard for me to call a direct sacrifice totally undignified.
Yes, I did mean plotwise. I suppose you're correct for not being a completly undignified death.
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Re: Most undignified death

Post by ABED » Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:11 am

No, he doesn't help stop the Saiyans and his death doesn't lead to their defeat, but that's not why it worked dramatically. It wasn't an undignified death as he went down swinging both times. I would still argue that his death was important to the tone and thus the plot of both arcs.
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Re: Most undignified death

Post by omaro34 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:10 am

An undignified and pathetic end that I would nominate is Cui when he died by the hands of Vegeta. This is a guy who was a former rival of Vegeta, and once Cui had the green light to kill his rival from Freeza, he confronted him on that planet they were on before they went to Namek. Cui mocked him and told him where Freeza went. He then chased after Vegeta all the way to Namek and confronted him again, and mocking him again for the final time.

His reaction when Vegeta began powering up said it all. Cui was desperate to get away and fired a whole bunch of blasts after he got Vegeta distracted for a brief moment. Then he began laughing thinking he has won but has a look of horror when Vegeta appears behind him. Cui then tries to run away, and even trips while he's running then flies away, only to have Vegeta chase him down and brutally kill him; his body disintegrating into a million pieces.

If that's not a pathetic death than i don't know what is.
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