DVD covers

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:11 pm

Ahhh, I see. That's very efficient.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:54 pm

Yeah, but, well, who has 300 DVDs? The cases are already far smaller than VHS boxes. Making them even smaller seems a wee bit like overkill.

M-Vegeta · Post by **M-Vegeta** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:24 am

I bet a lot of people have over 300 DVDs. With burning being so easy, along with Netflixs making it even easier, sites that provide thousands of scanned DVD covers for printing, AND bootlegging being so popular ...

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:28 am

Ya well, that's people who are computer whizzes and rich. Something which I'm not.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:33 am

True. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "a lot". I'd say it's almost certainly less than 1 person in 50. Which still does translate to "a lot", I suppose.

Kodoshin · Post by **Kodoshin** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:35 am

I know several people with DVD collections in that 300+ range, Thinpaks have been good for them when it comes to conserving space that they might not have had for another DVD stand.

My collection isn't quite in that range but not having much space anyway, they are still quite useful.

So I guess, people living in cramped quarters are a target market too, and thats a pretty big group of people I'd bet.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:49 am

I'm actually going through my DVDs, mostly anime of course, in my head, counting them. If I don't include my DB ones and if I do include the discs in my boxed sets individually, as well as the 2 documentary footage DVDs on my Special Edition LOTR The Fellowship and Two Towers, I don't even make it to 100. And it's taken me about three years to get this much. If I include my DB ones, then it shoots up to 175, but I''ve been collecting the DB DVDs for even longer then my other ones. So, so, I don't even know why I've posted this.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:07 am

300 DVDs would like be around $4,500 worth. And since most people got DVD players after 2000...that's an awful lot of money to spend in less than 4 years.

Kodoshin: I don't mean this in a degrading way at all, honest, but I suspect that a lot of your DVDs are anime, right? And that the DVDs of your friends are also anime? You are more likely to know people who have 300+ DVDs, because of your social group. If we take people who don't collect anime shows, and who only have DVDs of films (and maybe TV season boxsets), then a very, very, very small number of them are going to have over 300. None of my non-internet friends (or even aquantancies) have that many DVDs. I don't think any of them even approach 70.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:15 am

I agree with Psy about this. As I said, I have a good enough number, but that's only because they are anime and a good percentage being DB, which I make an effort to collect. Aside from one of my local comic book stores that carries some anime for rent, if I really want to see a series, I have to buy it. It won't be on T.V. of course except for a few select series in cut and dubbed format. Plus this store isn't really carrying the kinds of series I'm interested in most of the time. They have to carry what will most likely rent, and that's usually not things like Ushio and Tora and City Hunter,(but they'll carry A Little Snow Sugar Fairy, what gives with that?). Which actually I hate, because with the majority of anime, I definitely want to see if I like the series first before commiting to it. But I don't have that many non-anime DVDs.

Kodoshin · Post by **Kodoshin** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:30 am

Among those I know with larger DVD collections half of them are anime collectors, and the other half are just total film nuts.

But Thinpaks aren't exclusively for people with titanic collections either. Lets say you have an ordinary 20-25 disc rack, wouldn't you rather double it's storage capacity then takeup more space with another one of the things?

I do think Thinpaks will eventually become the standard cases, it's years off for sure, but I think retailers would appreciate it more than anyone.

But yeah, I get where your coming from, it's currently targeting a minority market, but I guess they are looking ahead more than anything else. Almost everyone I knew had a ton of VHS tapes laying around, be it movies, family films whatever. I'm sure 8-10 years down the road the product will have a much more viable market for mass consumption.

tablet the eunuch · Post by **tablet the eunuch** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:44 am

I'd only use thinpaks on larger series, like Kenshin, Saint Seiya, and of course, Dragonball/z/gt

*edit: no, I never entered the comp, I didnt even visit the site regularly when they had it nor knew photoshop.

I love the Jesus cover though

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:14 am

Kodoshin wrote:I do think Thinpaks will eventually become the standard cases, it's years off for sure, but I think retailers would appreciate it more than anyone.

I'm not so sure. I remember around the year 2000, when PG games started to be packaged in DVD boxes. It made a lot of sense, standardised everything, and was generally neater. But when I went to the US, almost all the PC games were still stocked in massive cardboard boxes.

Larger boxes = increased value for money, in some people's eyes. Plus the larger boxes will be more eye catching on the shelf. People actually complained about the small DVD boxes being used (and by people, I do mean Americans, the only country in the world where the X-box is perceived as being normal sized). It'd be much harder to see the name of a game/film on the spine of the case on a Thinpak, therefore a lower chance of you actually buying it.

However, if Thinpaks are exactly the same size as a DVD case, just half as thin, then they'll have a better chance, as they'll be "backwardly compatible" with current DVD stands.

M-Vegeta · Post by **M-Vegeta** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:38 pm

PsyLiam wrote:True. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "a lot". I'd say it's almost certainly less than 1 person in 50. Which still does translate to "a lot", I suppose.

I wasn't really comparing those who do bootleg with those who don't to define my use of the words a lot. I'm talking more about bootlegging in general, worldwide millions of people are doing it, and billions of dollars are being lost. That's how I would define a lot.

If that makes sense ...

M-Vegeta · Post by **M-Vegeta** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:52 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:Ya well, that's people who are computer whizzes and rich. Something which I'm not.

Heh. You don't need to be a computer wizz, or rich to burn DVDs. Believe me, if you have a decent computer, can download two programs off the internet (Nero 6 & DVDShrink), know how to insert a blank DVD-/+R, and then push three buttons at the most ... you've got a DVD. Even DVD burners are as cheap as $59.99.

It's almost scary how truly easy it is. I learned how to do it in like 10 minutes.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:55 pm

M-Vegeta wrote:
PsyLiam wrote:True. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "a lot". I'd say it's almost certainly less than 1 person in 50. Which still does translate to "a lot", I suppose.
I wasn't really comparing those who do bootleg with those who don't to define my use of the words a lot. I'm talking more about bootlegging in general, worldwide millions of people are doing it, and billions of dollars are being lost. That's how I would define a lot.

If that makes sense ...

Nonono. I wasn't talking about bootlegging. I was talking about how many people have more than 300 DVDs.

And (useless fact time), while downloading of movies and TV shows is increasing all the time, sales of DVDs are actually higher than they have ever been. Compare that with the music industry, where sales are going down and down...

M-Vegeta · Post by **M-Vegeta** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:19 am

DVD players are dirt cheap now'a days. I can see why DVD movies would be doing so well.

I know the majority of people don't have over 300 DVDs, but the people bootlegging their own DVDs usually exceed 300, easily. That's basically what I meant when I said, "I bet a lot of people have over 300 DVDs." But as you said, that depends on what your definition of "a lot" would be. And, I'm sure the legitmate consumers will reach that 300 mark (and beyond that) as the years go by. So in that respect, Thinpaks would be helpful. Hell, they'd be helpful if you have more than 80 DVDs. I know I could use some, my T.V. stand is almost at its limit!

And you're right about America, Liam. We do everything bigger and to the EXXXTREME, here! I mean, look at our SUVs and TRUCKS, they seem to get bigger and bigger and BIGGER!! Soon they're going to have to start selling step ladders just to get into them! But I guess we're trying to change, they did get rid of the SUPER SIZE fries at McDonald's

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:44 pm

The "dirt cheap DVD players" are junk. At this point in time, I'd never pay less than $250 for a DVD player. A few years down the road, then it'll be fine to pay a cheaper price. The technology's still too new at this point in my opinion.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:26 pm

You are fantastically wealthy though.

Seriously, how are the cheap ones "junk"? They play DVDs pretty well. And the difference in quality isn't really noticable, unless the rest of your set-up is also uber-kewl quality to the max.

And the technology is about 8 years old! That's hardly "new". Silly rabbit.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:39 pm

I'm not wealthy, I just save up(a long time), but I do. And when I say cheap ones, I'm talking about those brands made from companies you've never heard of that you buy at Wal-Mart or the grocery store, yes the grocery store. I actually didn't think the technology was already seven years old though. I thought it was just five years at most. *sigh* Shows how much I know about technology.

Once again Liam, I am humbled by your superior "smarts" in that area.

And how did you know that my Chinese birth sign was rabbit?! Eh?!

M-Vegeta · Post by **M-Vegeta** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:49 pm

You can get brand names for dirt cheap. I got my Toshiba for for $89.99, then a few months later it dropped to $69.99. The interlace with Colorstream looks GREAT on my flatscreen.

Players are dirt cheap now because that's just the way the market goes, things come down it price as the years roll on. VCRs, CD players, and now DVD players have dropped to afforable prices ... that doesn't really mean their junk. Does it?