Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:14 pm

Short Answer: yes.

Long Answer: Not really, he's just such a narcissist that he can't help but adore someone else who thinks he's just as great as he thinks himself.


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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by phattangent » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:14 pm

Yomi wrote:
sintzu wrote:Someone hugging his alternate timeline self doesn't make him gay.
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Sometimes a kai just wants to hug another guy himself.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by MCDaveG » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:39 pm

Well, to burst the teenage bubble of wondering if a character in my favorite show is by any chance gay...
Zamasu is a god/Kaioshin, we know that Kaioshin are asexual genderless higher beings, so if I can steep so low to get in in-universe explanation:
Humans have gender, each gender has it's perequisities based on hormones + the culture and upbringing they develop in as characters.

So no, Zamasu can't be gay. But Goku and Vegeta + every other character can. Maybe Bulma's sister is, or Goku will find out later and find himself someone, who loves fighting and so can be closer with than with Chi-Chi.
But due to the Japanese society being still kinda homophobic compared to west, I think not. But well, Japanese society kinda moved on since DB and DBZ's gay jokes.

Btw. my favorite gay character is Kathy Kane/Batwoman.

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:51 pm

MCDaveG wrote:Zamasu is a god/Kaioshin, we know that Kaioshin are asexual genderless higher beings...
Come on, he's obviously male-oriented.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Yomi » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:02 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Come on, he's obviously male-oriented.
I think they might be confusing Gender and Sex. Not trying to sound SJW
but Sex pertains to the organs while Gender is the masculine/feminine characteristics.

Like, there's no question that Female Kai and Vados are female.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:06 pm

Yomi wrote:I think they might be confusing Gender and Sex. Not trying to sound SJW
Yes you are, or you wouldn't have bothered with a subjective difference that relies on a strict, law-like interpretation of language in general. Not that I particularly care.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Yomi » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:48 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Yes you are, or you wouldn't have bothered with a subjective difference that relies on a strict, law-like interpretation of language in general. Not that I particularly care.
He said, "Asexual genderless" it's obvious that they have no sex, but they do have gender. Vados has boobs, and wide hips and Whis has broad shoulders, big feet and an adam's apple. I'm just saying that they do have genders even though they don't have sexes. I don't see where the problem lies.

I just put that warning there because I know that Anti-SJW's are quick to call people SJW's as soon as they see the word "gender" just as SJW's are quick to call people Racist/Sexist.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by MCDaveG » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:52 pm

Yomi wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Come on, he's obviously male-oriented.
I think they might be confusing Gender and Sex. Not trying to sound SJW
but Sex pertains to the organs while Gender is the masculine/feminine characteristics.

Like, there's no question that Female Kai and Vados are female.
By appearance, yes... And they don't have both, the organs supposedly and nor the gender. It was in some interview if I remember it right.
Some of the Kaioshins may appear female, but biologically, they are not.
He's rather narcissist than male-oriented.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Sin » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:16 pm

So if they got it on is it gay or masturbation?

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:17 pm

Sin wrote:So if they got it on is it gay or masturbation?
Pre or post fusion?
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by MaxZ » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:21 am

MCDaveG wrote:
Yomi wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Come on, he's obviously male-oriented.
I think they might be confusing Gender and Sex. Not trying to sound SJW
but Sex pertains to the organs while Gender is the masculine/feminine characteristics.

Like, there's no question that Female Kai and Vados are female.
By appearance, yes... And they don't have both, the organs supposedly and nor the gender. It was in some interview if I remember it right.
Some of the Kaioshins may appear female, but biologically, they are not.
He's rather narcissist than male-oriented.
I wouldn't really pay the interviews much mind

Toryiama likely forgot every detail of them 5 minutes after they concluded

Zamasu is clearly male, Beerus is clearly male, Whis is clearly male, Vados is clearly female, etc.

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:18 am

ShadowBardock89 wrote:Nah, he's just a big narcissist.
Like General Blue?
Alruneia wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Or just really fruity?
Yes. Fruity. :lol:

I think they classify as autosexual, actually. Which means they're attracted to themselves (and since they're the same person, that extends to them being attracted to each other).
I wonder what if they ran into Present Zamasu (the one Beerus decided to go all-out on)?
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MCDaveG wrote:
Yomi wrote:
I think they might be confusing Gender and Sex. Not trying to sound SJW
but Sex pertains to the organs while Gender is the masculine/feminine characteristics.

Like, there's no question that Female Kai and Vados are female.
By appearance, yes... And they don't have both, the organs supposedly and nor the gender. It was in some interview if I remember it right.
Some of the Kaioshins may appear female, but biologically, they are not.
He's rather narcissist than male-oriented.
I wouldn't really pay the interviews much mind

Toryiama likely forgot every detail of them 5 minutes after they concluded

Zamasu is clearly male, Beerus is clearly male, Whis is clearly male, Vados is clearly female, etc.
Whis is debatable.

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Bullza » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:52 am

Yes they are as Black has pink hair and Zamasu has purple clothing and everyone knows that these are the colours of the homosexual.

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:00 am

Bullza wrote:Yes they are as Black has pink hair and Zamasu has purple clothing and everyone knows that these are the colours of the homosexual.
Never thought of it that way. I guess the debate's over, then.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by JoeCapricorn » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:59 am

Zamasu is cute... Zamasu is bae. I would boop his ears.

But no, Zamasu is not gay. Even if he is so darling.

Kaio-shin tend to be asexual. However, Old Kai is probably the exception. He probably got his lust for women from the old witch that fused with him. That old witch is a lesbian, and might be the only one in Dragon Ball.

On a serious note, I would like to see a serious gay character or couple. Not one stereotyped, but depicted in a normal fashion... that then gets comedic reactions from the other characters. I highly doubt it, though.

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by The Patrolman » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:39 am

Whats wrong with a guy loving himself?
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Majin Jator » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:15 am

They're Zamazu-sexual.

By the way, I think we can drop the "kai are sexless" theory. That was never stated in the series, and is now contradicted. Unless you believe that the Grand Priest birthed Whiz and Vados puking an egg, which is a legitimate via of reproduction in the DB universe.

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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by MCDaveG » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:30 am

Bullza wrote:Yes they are as Black has pink hair and Zamasu has purple clothing and everyone knows that these are the colours of the homosexual.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Alruneia » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:10 am

Majin Jator wrote:They're Zamazu-sexual.

By the way, I think we can drop the "kai are sexless" theory. That was never stated in the series, and is now contradicted. Unless you believe that the Grand Priest birthed Whiz and Vados puking an egg, which is a legitimate via of reproduction in the DB universe.
The attendants are angels, not Kais. You can't say that any more than you can say saiyans are genderless because namekians are born through asexual reproduction.
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Re: Are Goku Black and Future Zamasu gay?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:29 am

Well Rou Kaioshin is perverted and into girls. So they do have sexuality. Although some humans are also asexual.
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