super doesn't care about happy ending...

[HeroR]

You're not listening . Yes Future trunk and Mai are alive but the whole point of this arc was to GIVE these survivors some HOPE. The message of this arc was to retained their own timeline but Ultimately this arc ended up being pointless because their world have been wiped out from the existence. Trunks and Mai would die anything to protect them but they ultimately failed and they ended up branching off another timeline. In the end Trunk and Mai would still be living full of lies regardless whether it be present or another alternate timeline... Everything before Goku Black incident, they are not the same person, they will no longer recognize what Future Trunks and Mai had to go through.
What's even more fucked up is that they had to deal with the dopple ganger of themselves...

The message of this arc, if there was one, is to keep hope in the mist of despair and keep fighting even when it's hopeless. However, it was never said if you do those things, you will succeed. Just because you keep hope doesn't automatically means everything will work out at the end. Some times, despite your best efforts, you still end up falling flat on your face.

However, once you failed, what do you do? Do you chose give up, mope, and cry about your lost? Or, do you pick yourself up, take what you learned, and moved forward with hope that there is a better tomorrow? Trunks and Mai chose the latter. They chose to move on and rebuild with a world that is closed to their own. They will carry their failure with them forever, but chose to learn from that failure and get stronger from it, instead of whine and cry about how unfair life is.

Which is why the ending is so mature. The message is keeping hope, even when you failed.

[HyugaProdigy]

The message of this arc, if there was one, is to keep hope in the mist of despair and keep fighting even when it's hopeless. However, it was never said if you do those things, you will succeed. Just because you keep hope doesn't automatically means everything will work out at the end. Some times, despite your best efforts, you still end up falling flat on your face.

If that's the case then in the midst of despair, Trunks would've gathered the hope of this world and managed to save it by the end, or use the dragon balls to restore his own timeline thus giving us a perfect closure. Well, not anymore!

However, once you failed, what do you do? Do you chose give up, mope, and cry about your lost? Or, do you pick yourself up, take what you learned, and moved forward with hope that there is a better tomorrow? Trunks and Mai chose the latter. They chose to move on and rebuild with a world that is closed to their own. They will carry their failure with them forever, but chose to learn from that failure and get stronger from it, instead of whine and cry about how unfair life is.

Which is why the ending is so mature. The message is keeping hope, even when you failed.

If they want to move on, then they should've move to different alternate timeline in the first place but it was BS bcause it was build up throughout the enire arc giving us the impression that everyone that dies would've atleast endure their suffering and had trunks end up saving their timeline. It is nonesense that the gods send future Trunks and future Mai to a different timeline where the villain never became a threat, rendering pointless the tragedy behind the destruction of their universe, since they are simply given another one to live in. Dragon Ball super made everything Future Gohan's sacrifice pointless.


What the characters are doing in this show, it is pointless because it means nothing in the longrun. None of that would have happened if they hadn't forgotten to simply bring the seal for the mafuuba.

[Cipher]

I don't think I'll ever understand people finding this ending more "pointless" than just defeating another supervillain with no one's character changing.

This actually added something to the story that wasn't present in any other arcs.

Like up until the final twenty minutes of the arc, I was like, "Yeah, yeah, this is kind of fun, but it's just colors and sounds." And then at the very end I was like, "Oooooh. Probably going to be coming back to this one."

[HeroR]

The message of this arc, if there was one, is to keep hope in the mist of despair and keep fighting even when it's hopeless. However, it was never said if you do those things, you will succeed. Just because you keep hope doesn't automatically means everything will work out at the end. Some times, despite your best efforts, you still end up falling flat on your face.

If that's the case then in the midst of despair, Trunks would've gathered the hope of this world and managed to save it by the end, or use the dragon balls to restore his own timeline thus giving us a perfect closure. Well, not anymore!

However, once you failed, what do you do? Do you chose give up, mope, and cry about your lost? Or, do you pick yourself up, take what you learned, and moved forward with hope that there is a better tomorrow? Trunks and Mai chose the latter. They chose to move on and rebuild with a world that is closed to their own. They will carry their failure with them forever, but chose to learn from that failure and get stronger from it, instead of whine and cry about how unfair life is.

Which is why the ending is so mature. The message is keeping hope, even when you failed.

If they want to move on, then they should've move to different alternate timeline in the first place but it was BS bcause it was build up throughout the enire arc giving us the impression that everyone that dies would've atleast endure their suffering and had trunks end up saving their timeline. It is nonesense that the gods send future Trunks and future Mai to a different timeline where the villain never became a threat, rendering pointless the tragedy behind the destruction of their universe, since they are simply given another one to live in. Dragon Ball super made everything Future Gohan's sacrifice pointless.


What the characters are doing in this show, it is pointless because it means nothing in the longrun. None of that would have happened if they hadn't forgotten to simply bring the seal for the mafuuba.

The Dragon Ball, none of them, are obviously not an option since no one mentioned them. As far as we know, not even Super Shenron can restore a soul. As Goku put it in the Buu Saga, once your soul is destroyed, that's it. You cease to exist. Gathering hope doesn't mean automatically victory.

There're going to another timeline similar, but not the same with and it will have its own versions of Trunks and Mai. It isn't BS. Trunks and Mai fought the good fight, but in the end, they didn't succeed. Such as life. Hard work or sacrifice doesn't always equal success. It also isn't pointless because both Trunks and Mai have become overall stronger people and can better protect the new world they will be living in, so the tragedy won't be repeated. So those people didn't die in vain.

And you're going the 'What If' route. There is no promised that them bringing the seal would have prevented the tragedy. What if Black broke the jar? What if Black stopped messing around and just killed everyone with his clones? What if, what if. We don't live in what ifs. We live in the now.

[ckal9]

Isn't that what people wanted Super to be?

Yes, until it gets dark, then people completely flip and get upset that what they wanted to happen, happened.

I love the ending but at the same time I hate it. Doesn't make any sense does it ?!

I love that DBS is steering away from all the flowery happily ever after endings to make things more realistic on a real life basis.
But I hate that everything they go through in this arc was actually for nothing.

But on the other hand, Trunks timeline was doomed anyway, there were only a handfull of people left, to few to repopulate the earth.
Perhaps this was meant to be and their deaths served a higher purpose.
Maybe Trunks and Mai will serve a higher purpose since they are the only survivors.
We will see.

It makes sense, you can have conflicting emotions about something. That means, IMO, the people who created it did a good job.

In the end, sometimes you lose and your effort has been 'for nothing'. But it does not make it pointless. If they never tried there would never be a story, and good stories are not only ones where efforts yield a happy result for heroes.

I liked the ending quite a bit. There was a real consequence to an arc about battling with evil gods, but at the same time, not a real consequence that truly affects anyone in our story moving forward.

[GodKaio-Ken]

People aren't looking deeply enough. Had Zeno not erased that reality who knows what destruction would have been caused on all the other timelines? Yes everyone in that timeline died...but it wasn't in vain. Their fight stopped Zamasu from spreading his evil to other universe whether by time ring or that thing he did at the end becoming reality.

Trunks and Mai did fail to protect their timeline but actually succeeded in saving all the others. It's a bittersweet ending and I liked it.

[Freeza9000]

All the people he will see in that new timeline aren't the same people, and he will never get them back. Trunk and Mai would be living in a world full of lies.

Are you serious? So are you trying to say that everything and everyone Trunks and Mai will see is a world full of illusions? No, those people are human beings that you can interact with. It's not like as if they are mindless robots or ghosts.