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by ChiefWamsutta » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:37 pm
Mazingerdestro wrote:
Trunks' new form. I call it ssjssjgod. Basically super saiyan+power of rage+balance from the god ki without reducing speed=ssjssjgod
Why not call it Super Saiyan Demigod? That encompasses the Super Saiyan power and the blue god ki power. The increase in power wouldn't reduce its speed. I feel like Super Saiyan Super Saiyan God is much too similar to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Plus, these long names become much too tedious.
MaxZ wrote:SSJB2 is a possibility, I think
I just hope they do something distinct with it other then just giving it the SSJ2 hair
do something neat with the aura, add some big crackles of lightning, maybe intensify the yellow bit around the blue part of the aura
I don't know if I'd like SSB2. Super Saiyan Blue needs to stay separate from the other more numbered forms. I don't know. I'm feeling a Super Saiyan White ... maybe. Haha, I don't know anymore as long as they do a good job explaining it.
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by Ki Breaker » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:23 pm
ChiefWamsutta wrote:
Why not call it Super Saiyan Demigod?
WHY!? Because that would be too easy!! We do it the hard way here.
Got a new form? name it super Saiyan god super Saiyan, gotta explain the power increase? Leave it to the fans to figure out, meanwhile make it extra contradicting just in case it wasn't hard enough

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by ChiefWamsutta » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:18 am
Ki Breaker wrote:ChiefWamsutta wrote:
Why not call it Super Saiyan Demigod?
WHY!? Because that would be too easy!! We do it the hard way here.
Got a new form? name it super Saiyan god super Saiyan, gotta explain the power increase? Leave it to the fans to figure out, meanwhile make it extra contradicting just in case it wasn't hard enough

Hahaha, yeah, right. We have no idea if the Two-Base Theory or One-Base Theory is true. We have no clue exactly what a SSB is. Super Trunks was never explained. We don't even know if SSRose can be achieved only by Goku Black. We all do our best though. We all really do.
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by sintzu » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:30 am
Yellow, Red & Blue are the colors of fire.
Rose is another name for a flower, Black is Zamasu's name and killing was his thing so it was the black rose of death which is used in funerals.
So after looking at the above it's clear that the forms aren't just random colors so whatever we get will have some meaning behind it.
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by ChiefWamsutta » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:58 am
sintzu wrote:Yellow, Red & Blue are the colors of fire.
Rose is another name for a flower, Black is Zamasu's name and killing was his thing so it was the black rose of death which is used in funerals.
So after looking at the above it's clear that the forms aren't just random colors so whatever we get will have some meaning behind it.
I thought that too, which is why I liked the idea of Super Saiyan White, but Blue fire is hotter than White fire. This screws with the trend.
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by Ki Breaker » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:21 am
ChiefWamsutta wrote:sintzu wrote:Yellow, Red & Blue are the colors of fire.
Rose is another name for a flower, Black is Zamasu's name and killing was his thing so it was the black rose of death which is used in funerals.
So after looking at the above it's clear that the forms aren't just random colors so whatever we get will have some meaning behind it.
I thought that too, which is why I liked the idea of Super Saiyan White, but Blue fire is hotter than White fire. This screws with the trend.
Which is why it makes sense to give it to someone other than Goku and Vegeta, who don't need to be the strongest color..
Gohan is the best choice here because of his trend with mystic..
I would personally like rosé to be gokus or Gohans next transformation..
Rosé was too good and I am sad its gone now

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by ChiefWamsutta » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:14 am
Ki Breaker wrote:ChiefWamsutta wrote:sintzu wrote:Yellow, Red & Blue are the colors of fire.
Rose is another name for a flower, Black is Zamasu's name and killing was his thing so it was the black rose of death which is used in funerals.
So after looking at the above it's clear that the forms aren't just random colors so whatever we get will have some meaning behind it.
I thought that too, which is why I liked the idea of Super Saiyan White, but Blue fire is hotter than White fire. This screws with the trend.
Which is why it makes sense to give it to someone other than Goku and Vegeta, who don't need to be the strongest color..
Gohan is the best choice here because of his trend with mystic..
I would personally like rosé to be gokus or Gohans next transformation..
Rosé was too good and I am sad its gone now

I honestly just saw that as SSBlue + Zamasu's ki = SSRose. That it wasn't a transformation one could achieve on their own.
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by Bullza » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:21 am
I'm actually the surprised the series hasn't been so transformation heavy as what I thought it would be.
After Goku had a new form in Battle of Gods then had another one in the very next movie and of course you've got things like Heroes which comes up with all these hypothetical forms I thought there'd have been a lot more than we've got.
Buy really the only new forms we've had is Trunks' new form and Blacks Super Saiyan Rose.
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by Mazingerdestro » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:37 pm
ChiefWamsutta wrote:Mazingerdestro wrote:
Trunks' new form. I call it ssjssjgod. Basically super saiyan+power of rage+balance from the god ki without reducing speed=ssjssjgod
Why not call it Super Saiyan Demigod? That encompasses the Super Saiyan power and the blue god ki power. The increase in power wouldn't reduce its speed. I feel like Super Saiyan Super Saiyan God is much too similar to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Plus, these long names become much too tedious.
MaxZ wrote:SSJB2 is a possibility, I think
I just hope they do something distinct with it other then just giving it the SSJ2 hair
do something neat with the aura, add some big crackles of lightning, maybe intensify the yellow bit around the blue part of the aura
I don't know if I'd like SSB2. Super Saiyan Blue needs to stay separate from the other more numbered forms. I don't know. I'm feeling a Super Saiyan White ... maybe. Haha, I don't know anymore as long as they do a good job explaining it.
But I do not consider it a demigod. It is just another watmy to use the God ki
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by ChiefWamsutta » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:35 pm
Mazingerdestro wrote:
ChiefWamsutta wrote:
Why not call it Super Saiyan Demigod? That encompasses the Super Saiyan power and the blue god ki power. The increase in power wouldn't reduce its speed. I feel like Super Saiyan Super Saiyan God is much too similar to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Plus, these long names become much too tedious.
But I do not consider it a demigod. It is just another watmy to use the God ki
It's part yellow mortal ki, part blue god ki, and he is the son of Vegeta who is a God. Hence, Demigod, but do whatever makes you happy.

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by Mazingerdestro » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:31 am
ChiefWamsutta wrote:Mazingerdestro wrote:
ChiefWamsutta wrote:
Why not call it Super Saiyan Demigod? That encompasses the Super Saiyan power and the blue god ki power. The increase in power wouldn't reduce its speed. I feel like Super Saiyan Super Saiyan God is much too similar to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Plus, these long names become much too tedious.
But I do not consider it a demigod. It is just another watmy to use the God ki
It's part yellow mortal ki, part blue god ki, and he is the son of Vegeta who is a God. Hence, Demigod, but do whatever makes you happy.

In order to be a demigod you need to be born from a God parent and a non God parent. Did Trunks have a Kaioshin mom or something?
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by WhatIfTheories » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:12 am
Fishman wrote:ChiefWamsutta wrote:Alright, so we all seem to be noticing the trend ... DBSuper's merchandise and ratings are doing so well. The Future Trunks Arc garnered huge sucess, and it may be enough to keep DBSuper airing for awhile!
Inevitably we are going to get a new transformation for Goku and Vegeta, as is what happens with Dragon Ball.
So what form do think they will go with next? I personally hope it isn't another color like Super Saiyan Green, and I also hope it doesn't disregard the fact that SSBlue seems to be the peak of Saiyan power. They will have to come up with a damn good reason why the Saiyans will transform again.
Super Saiyan was the peak of Saiyan Power in the Freeza and early Android arc
Grade 2 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Vegeta dominated Cell with it.
Super Saiyan 2 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Gohan turned the tables on Cell to the point where he could only gain the upper hand by becoming a Super Saiyan 2 himself.
Super Saiyan 3 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Goku used it in the Buu arc.
Considering Super Saiyan Blue came completely out of nowhere, I don't think they need a particularly good reason to introduce a new peak, they can just do it and people will either attempt to justify it on their behalf or they won't.
Pretty good explanation here. Something will happen that will be that.
It can be done in an elaborate way or can just be a simple next level SSB. I think though he has time to make it dramatic and give a back story with an upcoming new Arc to really build a new transformation. Perhaps after Hit Kills Goku that
will set the ball in motion on a new transformation being needed. ( That's what I think will happen at least)
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by PsionicWarrior » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:24 am
Honestly I could get tired of color swaps pretty fast lol
What I would like to see ATM would be stuff like SSJB2 with better aura and more sparkles but no drastical changes, in the same spirit than SSJ=>SSJ2, different layers of power but at God level lol
I think it has been more or less confirmed SSJR was unique to Black and IMO it's good that way lol
I wonder if FTrunks form will ever be explained lol
I guess my biggest wish for an eventual (or inevitable lol) next form would be that we actually get to travel for a journey in order to attain it, like maybe a whole arc just narrating the path to power, that's something that's been missing in Super and I would really appreciate a comeback of that aspect, the journey of the warrior on his path to power, not just "Woopsie rage boost" lol
Plus it could take the opportunity to flesh out more lore and answer many questions lol
It can (must lol) have fights too ofc lol
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by TheMohawkAndroid » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:38 am
I would imagine if they pushed super saiyan God to super saiyan God with the power of a super saiyan!!! Then the other tiers of super saiyan should be accessible as well....I dunno Vegeta did say they were pretty much at their limit...I'm sure there's another down the pike
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by ChiefWamsutta » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:03 am
Mazingerdestro wrote:ChiefWamsutta wrote:
It's part yellow mortal ki, part blue god ki, and he is the son of Vegeta who is a God. Hence, Demigod, but do whatever makes you happy.

In order to be a demigod you need to be born from a God parent and a non God parent. Did Trunks have a Kaioshin mom or something?
Bulma is a Mortal and Vegeta has the power of a God since he accessed SSB. It works, not 100%, but it's a simple name.
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by SsjCookie » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:58 am
Whatever new form we'll see in the future, I only hope it will be someone other than Goku getting the transformation first.
Not Gohan though, he doesn't deserve it.
I'm rooting for Vegeta to finally outclass Goku for once, besides he really needs to have a win, especially after the whole Resurrection F fiasco.
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by Regarder » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:41 am
Super Saiyan Diamond! Hair looks like a crystal.

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by Dai-Saiyajin » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:10 pm
I Want Desperately the SSJ4 with red hair, and with this transformation both Goku and Vegeta (And even Gohan) surpasses Beerus once for all
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by Alruneia » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:43 pm
Regarder wrote:Super Saiyan Diamond! Hair looks like a crystal.

Super Saiyan Crystal! Hair looks like... uh, well
This is for my fanfic. Don't worry about it.
The "Super Saiyan White" speculation and fanart back before Rosé Black was revealed was actually really fun. We saw plenty of ideas, and some people were even put off by Rosé's reveal afterwards.
Speaking of which, the Rosé form may return, for better or worse. I've seen several pieces of fanart with Rosé Gohan already, for example. If they really want to have a new Super Saiyan form, but are also incredibly lazy (which they might be), I think it's an easy choice.
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