Would you watch a Dragonball show with no fighting or villains at all, just SOL?

[Anime Kitten]

Definitely! One of Super's most glaring issues is the underutilization of the supporting cast. While it's not something that particularly bothers me, as I am quite fond of "The Goku and Vegeta Show", a slice of life anime would be a great opportunity to offer screentime to the more obscure and/or less active characters on the field.

Now if it didn't have Goku and Vegeta in it, that would amplify my desire several times up.

[PelicanDynasty]

With NO fighting? Probably not. I'd be all for a series about them goofing around and whatnot, but at least have some short fights here and there. You don't need to have a villain show up and cause trouble for 50 episodes, but there has to something IMO. Vegeta getting lost in the parking lot at a Mets game is only funny if there is a dose of Vegeta in there (like him blowing up cars or beating up Yankees fans ).

So if it was somewhat contained within the Dragonball world, then sure, I'd watch. If the typical episode is about taking the wrong train and ending up in Rhode Island, I'll pass. Save that for non-animated shows.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

With NO fighting?

Even though the description says "no fighting", I think the intent is something like "not about fighting". Even in SoL, there needs to be some kind of fighting every once in a while, it's such a huge part of Goku's character, and Vegeta's to a lesser, albeit significant extent.

[PsionicWarrior]

I love SOL episodes and moments but let's not get ourselves carried away and wish for no combat in a combat series lol
What's working good is a nice balance between the two elements, as exclusively one or the other would be lacking its counterpart, these aspects being complementary with each other lol

[Jinzoningen MULE]

What's working good is a nice balance between the two elements, as exclusively one or the other would be lacking its counterpart, these aspects being complementary with each other lol

But it isn't working, that's kind of the point. New Dragon Ball is pathetic in its current state. An exclusive SoL is just a spitball idea, since that's what Super is most competent at.

[PsionicWarrior]

But it isn't working, that's kind of the point. New Dragon Ball is pathetic in its current state.

It's working in both DB and Z lol
Hopefully Super is slowly catching up lol

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It's working in both DB and Z lol
Hopefully Super is slowly catching up lol

You're not getting it. It has worked in the past, that doesn't mean it's working now. Post-Cell DB had the same phenomena, its SoL far surpasses the actual arc. It's was also present in Toriyama's most plot-heavy work since Dragon Ball ended; Jaco, whose jokes are pretty much the only appealing thing. Battle of Gods, RoF, DBS, same syndrome. Do you get where I'm going? It isn't getting better and won't get better, not with a series so heavily based on Toriyama's ideas. His heart is in the comedy, not the plot.

[Boo Machine]

As someone who enjoyed Gohans highschool/ Saiyaman Adventures, I would greatly enjoy more of that or something like that.

[ABED]

As someone who enjoyed Gohans highschool/ Saiyaman Adventures, I would greatly enjoy more of that or something like that.

10 or so episodes wasn't enough?

[Anime Kitten]

10 or so episodes wasn't enough?

A few hundred or so episodes of Goku wasn't enough? Why is Goku's overwhelming amount of screentime excusable? Because he's the main character? No. People want to see their favorite characters active. Of course 10 episodes isn't enough.

[Boo Machine]

As someone who enjoyed Gohans highschool/ Saiyaman Adventures, I would greatly enjoy more of that or something like that.

10 or so episodes wasn't enough?

Sure. But if an opportunity for more came along I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it.

[ABED]

10 or so episodes wasn't enough?

A few hundred or so episodes of Goku wasn't enough?

1 - I do think that was enough
2 - Dragon Ball had numerous tones throughout, so it didn't get stale playing the same beat that way
3 - The Great Saiyaman story isn't exactly frought with conflict and drama
4 - It's a joke that quickly wears out its welcome

Why is Goku's overwhelming amount of screentime excusable? Because he's the main character? No.

No, simply being the main character isn't the issue. A martial artist looking to be the best coming into conflict with other powerful beings is inherently more dramatic than a superpowered high school kid who can beat up bank robbers like it was nothing.

[Anime Kitten]

1 - I do think that was enough
2 - Dragon Ball had numerous tones throughout, so it didn't get stale playing the same beat that way
3 - The Great Saiyaman story isn't exactly frought with conflict and drama
4 - It's a joke that quickly wears out its welcome

1 - And yet you stay opposed to passing on the torch. Dragon Ball isn't stopping anytime soon, so I'd like to see Goku replaced.
2 - Goku gets stale after a while. He stopped developing a long time ago, as unfortunate as I find that.
3 - Which is exactly what slice of life is! That's what makes episodes like that so great.
4 - Well, a lot of people (myself included) still enjoy it. It's only worn its welcome for some.

[ABED]

1 - And yet you stay opposed to passing on the torch. Dragon Ball isn't stopping anytime soon, by the way.
2 - Goku gets stale after a while. He stopped developing a long time ago, as unfortunate as I find that.
3 - Which is exactly what slice of life is! That's what makes episodes like that so great.
4 - Well, a lot of people (myself included) still enjoy it. It's only worn its welcome for some.

Sure, which is why I'm in favor of ending the story, but if they want to continue, Goku has to remain the center of the story. Slice of life episodes work (if they work at all) because they are infrequent and add something to the character, like reinforcing what the characters are about or why they do what they do. For instance, the power of Gohan's birthday episode has is it shows what Gohan and Goku are fighting to protect. I'm well aware that there are many that love those episodes, but one of the reasons that might be the case is because there aren't that many. Less is more. Stories need conflict and there's very little in a Saiyaman centered story.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Sure, which is why I'm in favor of ending the story, but if they want to continue, Goku has to remain the center of the story.

I hate to be "this guy", but they don't have to do anything, and you're free to cut off whenever you want. There are many who cut their, for lack of a better term, head-canon, off at the EoZ or Jaco. It's easy enough to only involve yourself with the original story, in the same way that the original Star Trek has a section of its fan-base from the 60's that won't touch any of the movies or sequel series'.

[ChronoTwigger]

Uruseiyatsura and Maison Ikkoku, my dear friends.
There was a time when some comedy anime ruled.
Owe, those old days of once beloved past T_T
Where you don't need to bash things to create a plot.

[ABED]

Sure, which is why I'm in favor of ending the story, but if they want to continue, Goku has to remain the center of the story.

I hate to be "this guy", but they don't have to do anything, and you're free to cut off whenever you want. There are many who cut their, for lack of a better term, head-canon, off at the EoZ or Jaco. It's easy enough to only involve yourself with the original story, in the same way that the original Star Trek has a section of its fan-base from the 60's that won't touch any of the movies or sequel series'.

I see your point, but the Trek example isn't great because every series is a whole new group of characters that just exist within the same universe. Dragon Ball is more or less the same group of characters. A better example is the Terminator franchise. I can certainly ignore any movie after T2, I still wish they had left the story alone.

As for Goku having to remain the center of the story, I can't think of any long running story where after a lengthy run with a lead or two, switching main characters has ever lead to better things for the series.

[Lord Beerus]

Oh, most definitely. The slice of life episodes has provided some of Super high points. With the proper direction and writing, a slice of life Dragon Ball series could be spectacular.

[ekrolo2]

If Super had anyone approaching a clue working on it, they'd realize that's its strength and just give up on anything else. The writers strengths lie in SOL, everything else? I've seen less incompetence from the guys behind Arkham Knight and that's a pretty big condemnation of one's writing ability.

[Lord Beerus]

If Super had anyone approaching a clue working on it, they'd realize that's its strength and just give up on anything else. The writers strengths lie in SOL, everything else? I've seen less incompetence from the guys behind Arkham Knight and that's a pretty big condemnation of one's writing ability.

Hey, I liked Arkham Knight. The plot twist was pretty bloody obvious, but I enjoyed Scarecrow as a villain a lot more than I thought I would.