Goku has too much plot armor!!?

[omaro34]

I find it very stupid that the Omni-King's button was still in Goku's pockets after all the shit Goku went through Episode 65. It sure was convenient that Zamasu's immense power as a God did not destroy Goku's pockets...

Zamasu deserves a rematch. Unlike Frieza, Cell and Buu, who got outplayed, Zamasu's defeat wasn't fair. Goku basically cheated and used hacks: that coward was too weak and frail to face the Supreme God. I hope Zamasu will have his revenge one day, on all those who dared to defy his Light of a God. Also, how did Goku overwhelm Zamasu's Holy Wrath? Black alone was able to crush Goku each time they met. Merged Zamasu overpowered Goku with no effort at all. Merged Zamasu seriously injured Goku twice before that beam struggle. And yet, somehow, Goku, wounded and crippled by Zamasu's immense strenght, was able to not only keep up with the Holy Wrath, but also compltely overwhelm Zamasu.

Goku is bullshit. At this point, only pitiful fanboys, clearly blinded by their insolence, can defend him.

Lol your obsession with Zamasu is making not only myself but others to not take you seriously anymore.

Queston. When did i ever ask for your attention? Like, you are a random dude on the internet. You don't take me seriosuly? Oh my, what ever shall i do?

Note that it wasn't me who started flaming, but people who attacked me for no reason. Ah, the incoherence of some people.

I don't need your permission for you to get my attention. The fact of the matter is, you clearly have an agenda on here. You post the same nonsense over and over, when its not even relevant to the question that OP posed. This thread has nothing to do with Zamasu yet here you are once again, just like other threads, spewing the same stuff. I think you like Zamasu because of his superiority complex and your comments come across that way; meaning its your opinion and nothing else matters.

Incoherence? How does me saying nobody takes you seriously anymore make me incoherent? I think your Zamasu act around here has given you a bad choice of words, to put it kindly.

[Merged Zamasu]

Lol your obsession with Zamasu is making not only myself but others to not take you seriously anymore.

Queston. When did i ever ask for your attention? Like, you are a random dude on the internet. You don't take me seriosuly? Oh my, what ever shall i do?

Note that it wasn't me who started flaming, but people who attacked me for no reason. Ah, the incoherence of some people.

I don't need your permission for you to get my attention. The fact of the matter is, you clearly have an agenda on here. You post the same nonsense over and over, when its not even relevant to the question that OP posed. This thread has nothing to do with Zamasu yet here you are once again, just like other threads, spewing the same stuff. I think you like Zamasu because of his superiority complex and your comments come across that way; meaning its your opinion and nothing else matters.

Incoherence? How does me saying nobody takes you seriously anymore make me incoherent? I think your Zamasu act around here has given you a bad choice of words, to put it kindly.

If you don't want the thread to derail into a Zamasu's thread, then don't reply to me. I know i am obsessed with Zamasu, i don't need everyone to remind me of that. And besides, what insult did i ever dare to write? You guys attacked me first, yet you make it look as if I was the one who started flaming. I gave my opinion and mentioned Zamasu, since he was a victim of Goku's plot armor, and you immediately jump off to conclusions, that i had some superior scheme or some other kind of fantasy. No, i don't have any agenda at all. I just mentioned my favourite character, YOU chose to quote me and flame me, saying things like "LUL, UR SO OBSESSED ". This is a new level of sensitivness.

[Gog]

I mean if a multiversal time reality warper couldn't defeat Goku, who at this point honestly could?
Goku has been dipped in pretty much every single plot armor that you could have
-dragon balls wishes
-after life resurrection
-being told of the future
-whis time change
-friends with gods
-super dragon balls
-omni-kings button

Which is why its very unlikely that someone will be able to give the Goku and Z fighters a same sense of threat like during the Frieza and Cell saga at this point.

None of that is plot armor, the true plot armor are chapter 518 and chapter 519.

W-what happened in those chapters...

[alexhermit]

I mean if a multiversal time reality warper couldn't defeat Goku, who at this point honestly could?
Goku has been dipped in pretty much every single plot armor that you could have
-dragon balls wishes
-after life resurrection
-being told of the future
-whis time change
-friends with gods
-super dragon balls
-omni-kings button

Which is why its very unlikely that someone will be able to give the Goku and Z fighters a same sense of threat like during the Frieza and Cell saga at this point.

None of that is plot armor, the true plot armor are chapter 518 and chapter 519.

W-what happened in those chapters...

I dunoo, but those chapters do take place right after the defeat of majin buu and then head straight into the 10 year of time skip. Its honestly really hard to imagine that everything that is currently happening with dragon ball super is suppost to substitute for that next chapter. The events just feel too inconsistent for them to be able to fill in all of that without eventually having to retcon the show slightly even if they still decide to introduce uub.

[SSJ Human]

I think this further demonstrates the similarities between Super and GT. It seems as if ever since the ending of Z, though more along the lines of the Cell arc, we have this continued difficulty focusing on characters that aren't either Goku or Saiyans. At least with the other Saiyans it's okay since they'll be susceptible to the plot but with him you have instances such as Baby not attempting to possess him or the main timeline Goku being saved from an attempt on his body by Zamasu. Things go in his favor too much for me to believe that he's at risk and this wasn't always the case since in Z, both times he died, there was a consequence for his character in that he was deceased and died saving the world or being heroic. That felt like a balancing act of him being as vulnerable as other characters but also in character with how I would perceive him to die based off watching the original series and its follow ups.

[Miracles]

Yeah, who would of thought, the plot catering to the main caster like that; they always have advantages.
Lets strike!

[dbs fanboy]

I find it very stupid that the Omni-King's button was still in Goku's pockets after all the shit Goku went through Episode 65. It sure was convenient that Zamasu's immense power as a God did not destroy Goku's pockets...

Zamasu deserves a rematch. Unlike Frieza, Cell and Buu, who got outplayed, Zamasu's defeat wasn't fair. Goku basically cheated and used hacks: that coward was too weak and frail to face the Supreme God. I hope Zamasu will have his revenge one day, on all those who dared to defy his Light of a God. Also, how did Goku overwhelm Zamasu's Holy Wrath? Black alone was able to crush Goku each time they met. Merged Zamasu overpowered Goku with no effort at all. Merged Zamasu seriously injured Goku twice before that beam struggle. And yet, somehow, Goku, wounded and crippled by Zamasu's immense strenght, was able to not only keep up with the Holy Wrath, but also compltely overwhelm Zamasu.

Goku is bullshit. At this point, only pitiful fanboys, clearly blinded by their insolence, can defend him.

Lol your obsession with Zamasu is making not only myself but others to not take you seriously anymore.

Lol, i thought that he was trolling

[Merged Zamasu]

I find it very stupid that the Omni-King's button was still in Goku's pockets after all the shit Goku went through Episode 65. It sure was convenient that Zamasu's immense power as a God did not destroy Goku's pockets...

Zamasu deserves a rematch. Unlike Frieza, Cell and Buu, who got outplayed, Zamasu's defeat wasn't fair. Goku basically cheated and used hacks: that coward was too weak and frail to face the Supreme God. I hope Zamasu will have his revenge one day, on all those who dared to defy his Light of a God. Also, how did Goku overwhelm Zamasu's Holy Wrath? Black alone was able to crush Goku each time they met. Merged Zamasu overpowered Goku with no effort at all. Merged Zamasu seriously injured Goku twice before that beam struggle. And yet, somehow, Goku, wounded and crippled by Zamasu's immense strenght, was able to not only keep up with the Holy Wrath, but also compltely overwhelm Zamasu.

Goku is bullshit. At this point, only pitiful fanboys, clearly blinded by their insolence, can defend him.

Lol your obsession with Zamasu is making not only myself but others to not take you seriously anymore.

Lol, i thought that he was trolling

Of course you did. You do not understand my beauty, nor the dignity of my proud words. I have reached a level that a mere mortal cannot even think of. The Universe is beautiful, but the violence of mortals stains it, and so all mortals shall be erased. This is the justice of the Universe.

[dbs fanboy]

Lol your obsession with Zamasu is making not only myself but others to not take you seriously anymore.

Lol, i thought that he was trolling

Of course you did. You do not understand my beauty, nor the dignity of my proud words. I have reached a level that a mere mortal cannot even think of. The Universe is beautiful, but the violence of mortals stains it, and so all mortals shall be erased. This is the justice of the Universe.

But as long as Goku's body exists the universe's beauty will remain spoiled

[Dbzfan94]

Toei wanks Goku to death just like they did in GT

[Mazingerdestro]

Toei wanks Goku to death just like they did in GT

Not really. Goku hasn't done anything since the beginning of super. He hasn't won a single crucial battle. I would gladly want to see them "wankying" him since dbs is the Vegeta show till now. The only thing super did was to make him act more childish

[Merged Zamasu]

Toei wanks Goku to death just like they did in GT

Not really. Goku hasn't done anything since the beginning of super. He hasn't won a single crucial battle. I would gladly want to see them "wankying" him since dbs is the Vegeta show till now. The only thing super did was to make him act more childish

If by "he hasn't done anything since the beginning of Super" you mean he is behind Zamasu's madness and is the one who found out Merged Zamasu's only weakness, then i agree with you.

[Mazingerdestro]

Toei wanks Goku to death just like they did in GT

Not really. Goku hasn't done anything since the beginning of super. He hasn't won a single crucial battle. I would gladly want to see them "wankying" him since dbs is the Vegeta show till now. The only thing super did was to make him act more childish

If by "he hasn't done anything since the beginning of Super" you mean he is behind Zamasu's madness and is the one who found out Merged Zamasu's only weakness, then i agree with you.

I think that by "wankying" the original commenter meant "Goku is the only important one". Obviously he has been used for plot development.

[Saturnine]

You're saying there is no threat? Come on.

Entire universes can (and likely will) get wiped out of existence, with the characters helpless but to watch. If U7 lost (which it won't, but still), the situation would be the same. Goku couldn't do shit to stop Zeno.

The threat has never been higher, actually.

I only hope it's not like U7 is the only one that remains, that would really suck.

[Simere]

Toei wanks Goku to death just like they did in GT

What's with DBZ fans who think Toei are the ones who built up Goku's greatness rather than Toriyama?

[Dbzfan94]

Toei wanks Goku to death just like they did in GT

What's with DBZ fans who think Toei are the ones who built up Goku's greatness rather than Toriyama?

You're completely missing the point.

[HeroR]

You're completely missing the point.

What was your point?

[ChaosLordBrandon]

What is this thread talking about? Goku has lost almost all his fights in Super is wank by neither Toei or Toriyama.

[Kanassa]

What is this thread talking about? Goku has lost almost all his fights in Super is wank by neither Toei or Toriyama.

Hell, Super even turned one of his original wanks against him. How he changes people for the better when interacting with them, then his interaction with Zamasu sending Zamasu completly off the edge (Since it showed that Zamasu would of not attempted to kill Gowasu without Goku's involvement).

[ChronoTwigger]

You (I mean you the post creator, not you the one that's trolling about Zamasu), pose a nice question.
Goku as a character is now VOID. His character arc was completed when defeating Frieza.
Secret of his past >> defeat the evil in his past >> reach a new "form".
Luke, Frodo, Harry, Indy... All characters face their past,risk, solve it, change and go away.
So, to have him stage they need to throw on him random problems and protect him with plot shields, 'cause there's nothing for him to really acquire from that battles at personal level.
In the end, there's no narrative reason for Goku to win/loose and retire. They are trapped in an infinite loop.