What was Majin Yamu & Spopovich's power level in your opinion?

[FoolsGil]

I'd place unpossessed Spopovich and Yamu somewhere between Giran and Namu in the 21st Budokai in terms of power. The majin curse with powerup, I'd say between Tao in the 23rd Budokai and Piccolo in the 23rd Budokai. Strong enough to survive their neck being broken by Videl, but they're still human, who didn't endure the training the main cast had.

That said, how they were able to manhandle Gohan is beyond me. Gohan even stuck with the killi jar should have been able to slap them off.

[dragonball0900]

That said, how they were able to manhandle Gohan is beyond me. Gohan even stuck with the killi jar should have been able to slap them off.

That's because the Supreme Kai paralyzed Gohan with his magical powers, making Yamu and Spopovich able to manhandle Gohan.

[RandomGuy96]

battle power 10 = BODB Goku > pistol bullet >>> Videl >= Spopovich

[Doctor.]

Lower than 10 as they're weaker than Videl, who is weaker than beginning of DB Goku and Roshi.

[Israelite Wolfman]

If that was the case (of everyone there except the Z-Fighters to be around 10) I see no reason for why Vegeta, Krillin & Gohan got shocked when Spopovich shot the suppressed energy wave at Videl (DBZ version). I'd say the two of them were at least 1000 at full power due to their ki abilities (I've already mentioned these before), then we have Videl at 70-80 after Gohan trained her with ki, Mr. Satan at 35-40, whatever Goku had managed to do in DB with a power level of 10 doesn't apply to DBZ humans, I bet even General Blue (who was at 60 IIRC) would have died if he was shot in the head with a pistol in a more serious show like DBZ.

[Perfectionist-Cell]

I think you guys are kind of under estimating Lord Yamu and SpopoGod. They were flying at high speeds and could launch ki blast. SpopoGod let Videl get her hits even Goku Vegeta and Gohan said he was toying with her putting his guard down and all.

[Israelite Wolfman]

I think you guys are kind of under estimating Lord Yamu and SpopoGod. They were flying at high speeds and could launch ki blast. SpopoGod let Videl get her hits even Goku Vegeta and Gohan said he was toying with her putting his guard down and all.

One does not makes fun of Gregg Spopovich and comes back alive.

[buutenks]

Considering Videl cannot finger flick regular people, she isnt higher than 10. Master Roshi when he fought Yamcha(the same guy who hit kid Goku so hard, goku flew through multiple stone pillars), Master Roshi blew yamcha out of the ring with the wind generated by the movement of Roshi's hand.

The feats Videl, Mr Satan, Yamu and Spopovitchi(or w/e his name is) show barely place them at BODB kid Goku. So they'd get creamed by any serious contender at the 21st budokai.

[Israelite Wolfman]

Considering Videl cannot finger flick regular people, she isnt higher than 10. Master Roshi when he fought Yamcha(the same guy who hit kid Goku so hard, goku flew through multiple stone pillars), Master Roshi blew yamcha out of the ring with the wind generated by the movement of Roshi's hand.

The feats Videl, Mr Satan, Yamu and Spopovitchi(or w/e his name is) show barely place them at BODB kid Goku. So they'd get creamed by any serious contender at the 21st budokai.

Dragon Ball is pretty inconsistent with power scaling and abilities, aura was something we were introduced to with the Kaioken, but Yamu & Spopovich who people here rank below Kid Goku were shown able to construct it as well unlike villains like Nappa who should be stronger.

BTW Does the manga or Daizenshuu give Yamu a backstory? It seems weird an alien wizard and his crew just arrive on Earth, take over a frustrated wrestler/martial artist and then add some random person (who may have been evil) to their forces?

[Nejishiki]

Dragon Ball is pretty inconsistent with power scaling and abilities, aura was something we were introduced to with the Kaioken

That's inaccurate. This is the first moment that comes to mind but I'm sure there's other instances of flaring auras predating the Kaio-ken technique.

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Piccolo should be mightier than those two, I would think.

BTW Does the manga or Daizenshuu give Yamu a backstory? It seems weird an alien wizard and his crew just arrive on Earth, take over a frustrated wrestler/martial artist and then add some random person (who may have been evil) to their forces?

Yamu
Babidi’s underling
First Appearance: chapter 438
Special Characteristics: He had his evil power drawn out by Babidi, and became his underling. He has a powered up through the forces of evil, just like Spopovitch. He ambushes Gohan midway through the Tenkaichi Budoukai, and returns to Babidi with a full load of energy. Like Spopovitch, he was judged to have served his use, and was executed by Pui Pui.
Techniques:Bukujutsu, etc
Tenkaichi Budoukai: He withdrew midway through the 25th tournament. Originally he was scheduled to fight Jewel.

They were likely recruited thanks to a combination of their inner evil & participation in the 24th Tenkaichi Budoukai.

[Israelite Wolfman]

Dragon Ball is pretty inconsistent with power scaling and abilities, aura was something we were introduced to with the Kaioken

That's inaccurate. This is the first moment that comes to mind but I'm sure there's other instances of flaring auras predating the Kaio-ken technique.

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Piccolo should be mightier than those two, I would think.

Well, here's what I've meant: 2 pics of Yamu & Spopovitchi's enhanced flight: [spoiler][/spoiler]
As seen above the two brainwashed/under Babidi's power up spell Humans produced a bigger auras than Nappa's (4,000) going all out moves at Goku or Krillin (13,000) & Gohan's (14,000) auras while powering up to face Guldo EVEN THOUGH people rank them not only below King Piccolo but also under BEGINNING OF DRAGON BALL Goku who had a power level of only 10.
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BTW Does the manga or Daizenshuu give Yamu a backstory? It seems weird an alien wizard and his crew just arrive on Earth, take over a frustrated wrestler/martial artist and then add some random person (who may have been evil) to their forces?

They were likely recruited thanks to a combination of their inner evil & participation in the 24th Tenkaichi Budoukai.

If Yamu was abnormally evil for Babidi to spot him, weren't the Z-Fighters should have been able to track him as well (Piccolo, Dende and Namekians in general should be able to sense evil within a being's heart)? Seems like poor writing of a character as he wasn't a contestant in the last Tenkaichi Bodukai, they could have easily work this out with claiming he was the landlord of the field Babidi's ship crashed into who happens to be Spopovich's best friend or know him somehow for him to be around when they landed there.

[Nejishiki]

Kaioshin was unable to locate Bobbidi & his spaceship. Following Bobbidi's minions to a hidden location was his motive for using Gohan's energy as bait. To the best of my knowledge, I don't believe Namekians possess that special, specific ability you're describing. Anyone capable of feeling ki should be able to ascertain ill presence. While I'm curious of Yamu & Spopovitch's extended backgrounds myself, it's not exactly vital information for their purpose in the story. I'm not seeing the correlation between minor characters lacking an arc & quality oeuvre. We're provided sufficient pieces of the puzzle to solve what kind of people they were before manipulation.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Around 20-25.

[Saturnine]

50 tops. Videl was within normal human realm when she fought them. Hell, they could both be like 30, only with excessive stamina and healing factor.

[Israelite Wolfman]

Here are Toriyama's manga depictions of Yamu & Spopovich's ki abilities, it doesn't seems likely they'd be below 100 (IMO 1000).
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[dragonball0900]

Here are Toriyama's manga depictions of Yamu & Spopovich's ki abilities, it doesn't seems likely they'd be below 100 (IMO 1000).

To be fair, the aura doesn't mean they have to be over the thousands. They are just humans with majin power. The majin boost isn't really that big to increase a power like 100-1000 times stronger. I'd still believe that Yamu and Spopovich are 21st Budokai Goku level, possibly much lower given how small the majin boost is.

[TheGodfather93]

Here are Toriyama's manga depictions of Yamu & Spopovich's ki abilities, it doesn't seems likely they'd be below 100 (IMO 1000).

To be fair, the aura doesn't mean they have to be over the thousands. They are just humans with majin power. The majin boost isn't really that big to increase a power like 100-1000 times stronger. I'd still believe that Yamu and Spopovich are 21st Budokai Goku level, possibly much lower given how small the majin boost is.

Pretty much this. How big or bright a character's aura is has never been an exact indicator of how strong that person is, and certainly doesn't denote what their battle power is either. There is no evidence whatsoever that this is the case. I personally attribute auras as being mainly a superficial feature that's supposed to make things look flashier and more dangerous. You can't really assess how strong a character is by the way they look, you have to go by their feats. And Spopovich and Yamu's feats are impressive for regular humans, but nothing on the level of kid Goku and pals.

[Beek King]

Isn't the whole thing with Goku at the very start of DB having a power level of 10 just something that came from a fan power level chart?

[DanielSSJ]

Shouldn't this have been asked in the Official Unofficial Power Level Thread we have here?

Anyways, I'd say that the two probably have battle powers of a hundred or so. However, since they got powered up via a magical ritual instead of training, only their Ki rose and their bodies aren't much tougher than a normal person's. Vegeta and Dabra were already used to operating at a superhuman level, so this didn't really affect them much.

[Nejishiki]

Isn't the whole thing with Goku at the very start of DB having a power level of 10 just something that came from a fan power level chart?

It's official.

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