Try to razionalize "stupid" desicions made by characters throughout the franchise

[MarcBigleague]

Piccolo immediately wrecking his Saibaman and telling Vegeta not to waste time even though the whole reason they're there is to buy time for Goku to arrive.

Maybe at that time Piccolo thought he had a significant ace up his sleeve: the monkey tail grab.

Also, the last time Piccolo saw Yamcha and Tien was at the end of DB, when there wasn't as big a gap in their ability to Goku's/Piccolo's ability as there is in Z. So, maybe he initially overestimated how much Yamcha, Tien and Krillin improved themselves and thought 5-6 of their fighters could take down at least one of the saiyans.

[successoroffate]

Why didn't Goku not transform into a SSJ3 and defeat SSJ2 Majin Vegeta in three seconds?

Goku turning SS 3 would have accelerated Buu's hatching?

[Lord Beerus]

Goku turning SS 3 would have accelerated Buu's hatching?

SSJ3 Goku could have easily knocked out SSJ2 Majin Vegeta with one punch, and Majin Boo doesn't get resurrected.

[MarcBigleague]

But Goku did have rationale for not turning Super Saiyan 3 against Vegeta. It was that he didn't want to anger/sadden Vegeta for still being so behind him.

By your opinion, that might be stupid. But it wasn't a thoughtless thing.

This is further rationalised by the fact that Goku maybe could tell Vegeta hadn't become 100% pure evil and was looking to convince Vegeta to work with him to defeat Buu. SSJ2 Goku + SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku. If Goku did go SSJ3 vs Vegeta, might have tipped Vegeta over the edge.

[floofychan333]

Let's get back on topic.

Why didn't Karin and Kami-sama fight villains if they were so strong?

[MarcBigleague]

Let's get back on topic.

Why didn't Karin and Kami-sama fight villains if they were so strong?

The same reason why the God of our world doesn't prevent earthquakes and tusnamis. They wwanted to test people.

[ABED]

But Goku did have rationale for not turning Super Saiyan 3 against Vegeta. It was that he didn't want to anger/sadden Vegeta for still being so behind him.

That doesn't sound like Goku at all.

[TheGodfather93]

Let's get back on topic.

Why didn't Karin and Kami-sama fight villains if they were so strong?

It's not the job of gods to meddle in the affairs of mortals, unless perhaps the world is in danger. Plus, Kami risking his life in a fight wouldn't be wise, because Dragon Balls and all. Best he can do is step in and train people in those instances, like with Goku and later the Z Warriors.

Why didn't Trunks just blow up 18 with a simple ki blast when Vegeta let Cell absorb her? At that stage he didn't have any sympathy for either of the androids, and it would've been a hell of a lot quicker and safer to do that than fight Vegeta.

I think I recall Goku saying that Dr Gero hadn't done anything bad yet, so it wouldn't be fair to kill him over an evil act he had yet to commit. Plus, the Z-Fighters were looking for a challenge. The was the only legitimate excuse given.

They didn't even have to kill Gero. They could've just arrested his wrinkly old ass or destroyed his research, and in doing so would've prevented the androids from being built. There is no logical justification for letting Gero build the androids. It's just Goku and Vegeta being typical Saiyan battle maniacs, and Piccolo and Tenshinhan being dumbasses. As for Cell, when he showed up Piccolo could've always fused with Kami and killed him, or the Saiyans could've just gone to the ROSAT. Cell started off as a weaker threat than the androids, so the Z Warriors still had time to prepare to fight him.

[MarcBigleague]

They didn't even have to kill Gero. They could've just arrested his wrinkly old ass or destroyed his research, and in doing so would've prevented the androids from being built. There is no logical justification for letting Gero build the androids. It's just Goku and Vegeta being typical Saiyan battle maniacs, and Piccolo and Tenshinhan being dumbasses. As for Cell, when he showed up Piccolo could've always fused with Kami and killed him, or the Saiyans could've just gone to the ROSAT. Cell started off as a weaker threat than the androids, so the Z Warriors still had time to prepare to fight him.

Interesting that you fail to mention Krillin in this. I don't understand, are you a Krillin fan? Because Kuririn initially agreed with Buruma and said "yeah lets kill him" but then he suddenly switched to "no let's not kill him yet". So I think it can be argued that if Kuririn was a bit more strong in his convictions, as a character in general, then he may have been able to pursuade Goku to say "Krillin is right" and because Goku is the alpha male XD everyone else would follow. So yeah, Krillin's lack of resolve can be seen as the main cause of trouble.

[TheGodfather93]

They didn't even have to kill Gero. They could've just arrested his wrinkly old ass or destroyed his research, and in doing so would've prevented the androids from being built. There is no logical justification for letting Gero build the androids. It's just Goku and Vegeta being typical Saiyan battle maniacs, and Piccolo and Tenshinhan being dumbasses. As for Cell, when he showed up Piccolo could've always fused with Kami and killed him, or the Saiyans could've just gone to the ROSAT. Cell started off as a weaker threat than the androids, so the Z Warriors still had time to prepare to fight him.

Interesting that you fail to mention Krillin in this. I don't understand, are you a Krillin fan? Because Kuririn initially agreed with Buruma and said "yeah lets kill him" but then he suddenly switched to "no let's not kill him yet". So I think it can be argued that if Kuririn was a bit more strong in his convictions, as a character in general, then he may have been able to pursuade Goku to say "Krillin is right" and because Goku is the alpha male XD everyone else would follow. So yeah, Krillin's lack of resolve can be seen as the main cause of trouble.

Sure, Krillin can shoulder some of the blame, since he didn't do anything to try and convince Goku otherwise, but he wasn't the one who initially brushed off Bulma's suggestion. Vegeta I can understand doing so because he was a dick back then, but Goku, Ten and especially Piccolo should've known better. Besides, Krillin eventually agreeing with their decision wasn't because he wanted to fight the androids, it was because he knew it was only through fighting powerful enemies that the Z Warriors bonded. He probably knew by that point that trying to argue with that group was pointless.

[MarcBigleague]

Good points.

[ABED]

It's not the job of gods to meddle in the affairs of mortals, unless perhaps the world is in danger. Plus, Kami risking his life in a fight wouldn't be wise, because Dragon Balls and all. Best he can do is step in and train people in those instances, like with Goku and later the Z Warriors.

Piccolo Daimao did put the world in danger and seeing as how much better Mr. Popo was than Goku, it would only be logical that Kami was way more powerful than Piccolo so it wouldn't be much of a challenge to stop his evil half. If Kami's job isn't to get involved in mortal affairs, what the hell does he do?

I'm glad the OP put "stupid" decisions in quotes because I don't think many of these decisions are stupid. They are reckless, but not stupid.

It's just Goku and Vegeta being typical Saiyan battle maniacs

It's not a superhero show.

[omaro34]

Why didn't King Piccolo wish for immortality instead of eternal youth?

Once immortal, the only move he needs to be wary of is the Mafuba.

[funrush]

Why in God's name did Goku give Cell a senzu? It still boggles my mind to this day. Never mind that Goku had no idea just how strong Cell was, but it was already an insane gamble to throw Gohan into the lions den without any plan and just hoping that he'd be able to spontaneously tap into the hidden power that he saw when he was training with Gohan in the ROSAT and defeat Cell. I don't give a shit how much Goku loves fighting and a good competition. That was such a fucking reckless thing to do. It essentially put Gohan at a disadvantage. And for what? A fair fight? Fuck that nonsense. Give me a legitimate reason why Goku pulled a stunt like that.

Right, it's not like Goku knew SS2 was a thing that existed, or that it could come out just from one fight. What if Gohan couldn't go SS2, and everyone died because Goku rendered his first fight with Cell invalid?

And on the topic of Zeno, I would chalk Goku's actions down to stupidity. In the Black arc, he saw how unstable Zeno is, erasing an entire universe because of one guy. The fact that Goku kept going out of his way to interact with him despite this is dumb.

Why didn't King Piccolo wish for immortality instead of eternal youth?

Once immortal, the only move he needs to be wary of is the Mafuba.

Youth gives him agility and power. Immortality means he may never die but he could still be captured and locked up for literally eternity. Circumvent the whole thing by giving yourself a power boost.

[ABED]

Right, it's not like Goku knew SS2 was a thing that existed, or that it could come out just from one fight. What if Gohan couldn't go SS2, and everyone died because Goku rendered his first fight with Cell invalid?

He did know about Gohan's hidden power.

[ekrolo2]

Why didn't Black just wish for Super Shenron to unlock all of the power in Goku's body for him?

[MarcBigleague]

Why didn't Black just wish for Super Shenron to unlock all of the power in Goku's body for him?

When he took over Goku's body he also might have merged with some brain cells of Goku. This is proven because he has the saiyan mindset of becoming in a state of mind that allows him to become super saiyn (rose). Now because he has some Goku brain aspects, would Goku ever wish Shenlong to grant him so many powers? I think not. As a result Black Goku didn't didn't do that.

[ekrolo2]

Why didn't Black just wish for Super Shenron to unlock all of the power in Goku's body for him?

When he took over Goku's body he also might have merged with some brain cells of Goku. This is proven because he has the saiyan mindset of becoming in a state of mind that allows him to become super saiyn (rose). Now because he has some Goku brain aspects, would Goku ever wish Shenlong to grant him so many powers? I think not. As a result Black Goku didn't didn't do that.

So instantaneously though? This still wouldn't account for why Future Zamasu wouldn't suggest it to him. If Black had to spend an actual year waiting for the Super DBs to reactivate and his Saiyan instincts got that time to fester in his mind, I can see this working, but with the Time Ring he can switch bodies with Goku, murder him and his family then have another wish available in the span of 15 minutes.

[Gog]

Why didn't Black just wish for Super Shenron to unlock all of the power in Goku's body for him?

When he took over Goku's body he also might have merged with some brain cells of Goku. This is proven because he has the saiyan mindset of becoming in a state of mind that allows him to become super saiyn (rose). Now because he has some Goku brain aspects, would Goku ever wish Shenlong to grant him so many powers? I think not. As a result Black Goku didn't didn't do that.

So instantaneously though? This still wouldn't account for why Future Zamasu wouldn't suggest it to him. If Black had to spend an actual year waiting for the Super DBs to reactivate and his Saiyan instincts got that time to fester in his mind, I can see this working, but with the Time Ring he can switch bodies with Goku, murder him and his family then have another wish available in the span of 15 minutes.

But what's too say that it didn't happen instantly? Zamasu had just literally switched brain's with Goku. And if it didn't happen instantly what's to say that Black didn't originally go around killing off mortals, revealing in his amazing power and before he could think about having the super dragon ball's unlock his full power. The Saiyan instincts had now fully kicked in and the idea of doing such a thing now seemed unthinkable too him.

Why did Gero never use the infinite energy reactors for himself?

[ekrolo2]

When he took over Goku's body he also might have merged with some brain cells of Goku. This is proven because he has the saiyan mindset of becoming in a state of mind that allows him to become super saiyn (rose). Now because he has some Goku brain aspects, would Goku ever wish Shenlong to grant him so many powers? I think not. As a result Black Goku didn't didn't do that.

So instantaneously though? This still wouldn't account for why Future Zamasu wouldn't suggest it to him. If Black had to spend an actual year waiting for the Super DBs to reactivate and his Saiyan instincts got that time to fester in his mind, I can see this working, but with the Time Ring he can switch bodies with Goku, murder him and his family then have another wish available in the span of 15 minutes.

But what's too say that it didn't happen instantly? Zamasu had just literally switched brain's with Goku.

Why did Gero never use the infinite energy reactors for himself?

He put his own mind in Goku's body, not share it with the guy, unless he's got the willpower of pre-Wall Sam Tarly, there's no way Goku's genetics should fuck with him so quickly.

And to answer your question, because the Android arc is shit.