I See Death Flags for Toppo

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by omaro34 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:30 pm

Cipher wrote:I can see either a win or loss against Toppo next week benefitting the general thrust of the arc. Goku winning means there's an even bigger target on his back, especially in the eyes of other members of the Pride Troopers(?). Goku losing means the crisis of potential erasure really comes home for the Universe 7 team, even though it should already be there.
I personally think the Dr Robotnik of Dragonball (Toppo) will beat Goku down next week. Goku already beat Bergamo and I think the reason they slotted Toppo in right after is to showcase how strong the new guy is which is typical Dragonball.
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by dragonballgeek » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:08 pm

omaro34 wrote:
Cipher wrote:I can see either a win or loss against Toppo next week benefitting the general thrust of the arc. Goku winning means there's an even bigger target on his back, especially in the eyes of other members of the Pride Troopers(?). Goku losing means the crisis of potential erasure really comes home for the Universe 7 team, even though it should already be there.
I personally think the Dr Robotnik of Dragonball (Toppo) will beat Goku down next week. Goku already beat Bergamo and I think the reason they slotted Toppo in right after is to showcase how strong the new guy is which is typical Dragonball.

Goku wasn't serious when he fought Bergamo.. Plenty of power to spare. The fact that you say him winning would showcase "typical" dragon ball is exactly why he won't lose. Toriyama seems to do the opposite of what you're expecting.

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by Lord Frieza » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:11 pm

dragonballgeek wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
Cipher wrote:I can see either a win or loss against Toppo next week benefitting the general thrust of the arc. Goku winning means there's an even bigger target on his back, especially in the eyes of other members of the Pride Troopers(?). Goku losing means the crisis of potential erasure really comes home for the Universe 7 team, even though it should already be there.
I personally think the Dr Robotnik of Dragonball (Toppo) will beat Goku down next week. Goku already beat Bergamo and I think the reason they slotted Toppo in right after is to showcase how strong the new guy is which is typical Dragonball.

Goku wasn't serious when he fought Bergamo.. Plenty of power to spare. The fact that you say him winning would showcase "typical" dragon ball is exactly why he won't lose. Toriyama seems to do the opposite of what you're expecting.
And the majority seem to be expect Toppo to loose. Take that as you will.

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by dragonballgeek » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:16 pm

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dragonballgeek wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
I personally think the Dr Robotnik of Dragonball (Toppo) will beat Goku down next week. Goku already beat Bergamo and I think the reason they slotted Toppo in right after is to showcase how strong the new guy is which is typical Dragonball.

Goku wasn't serious when he fought Bergamo.. Plenty of power to spare. The fact that you say him winning would showcase "typical" dragon ball is exactly why he won't lose. Toriyama seems to do the opposite of what you're expecting.
And the majority seem to be expect Toppo to loose. Take that as you will.
***LOSE not loose...

Not true. I've gotten a lot of crap these last 12 hours for saying Goku will spank him.

I've already explained myself to you before so I won't do it again. I'll just hit you up in two weeks and we will see

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by Lord Frieza » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:19 pm

dragonballgeek wrote:
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Goku wasn't serious when he fought Bergamo.. Plenty of power to spare. The fact that you say him winning would showcase "typical" dragon ball is exactly why he won't lose. Toriyama seems to do the opposite of what you're expecting.
And the majority seem to be expect Toppo to loose. Take that as you will.
***LOSE not loose...

Not true. I've gotten a lot of crap these last 12 hours for saying Goku will spank him.

I've already explained myself to you before so I won't do it again. I'll just hit you up in two weeks and we will see
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by dragonballgeek » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:20 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:
dragonballgeek wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
And the majority seem to be expect Toppo to loose. Take that as you will.
***LOSE not loose...

Not true. I've gotten a lot of crap these last 12 hours for saying Goku will spank him.

I've already explained myself to you before so I won't do it again. I'll just hit you up in two weeks and we will see
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by emperior » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:58 pm

Goku vs Toppo will end without a winner (not a tie)
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by omaro34 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:02 pm

dragonballgeek wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
Cipher wrote:I can see either a win or loss against Toppo next week benefitting the general thrust of the arc. Goku winning means there's an even bigger target on his back, especially in the eyes of other members of the Pride Troopers(?). Goku losing means the crisis of potential erasure really comes home for the Universe 7 team, even though it should already be there.
I personally think the Dr Robotnik of Dragonball (Toppo) will beat Goku down next week. Goku already beat Bergamo and I think the reason they slotted Toppo in right after is to showcase how strong the new guy is which is typical Dragonball.

Goku wasn't serious when he fought Bergamo.. Plenty of power to spare. The fact that you say him winning would showcase "typical" dragon ball is exactly why he won't lose. Toriyama seems to do the opposite of what you're expecting.
A Kao Ken while in his blue haired god form isn't serious? I'm sure he was at around 60 to 70 percent of his full power by doing that.
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:07 pm

Cipher wrote:I can see either a win or loss against Toppo next week benefitting the general thrust of the arc. Goku winning means there's an even bigger target on his back, especially in the eyes of other members of the Pride Troopers(?). Goku losing means the crisis of potential erasure really comes home for the Universe 7 team, even though it should already be there.
This would explain the OP considering the Toppo is the leader yet is hardly in it and it is all Paul.

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by dragonballgeek » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:05 pm

omaro34 wrote:
dragonballgeek wrote:
omaro34 wrote:
I personally think the Dr Robotnik of Dragonball (Toppo) will beat Goku down next week. Goku already beat Bergamo and I think the reason they slotted Toppo in right after is to showcase how strong the new guy is which is typical Dragonball.

Goku wasn't serious when he fought Bergamo.. Plenty of power to spare. The fact that you say him winning would showcase "typical" dragon ball is exactly why he won't lose. Toriyama seems to do the opposite of what you're expecting.
A Kao Ken while in his blue haired god form isn't serious? I'm sure he was at around 60 to 70 percent of his full power by doing that.
how do you not see that Goku was In control of the match the entire time? He literally gave this guy as much power as he could just to be entertained. And even then he topped it. You even say it yourself. Only giving it 60 to 70 percent. Last time I checked that wasn't getting serious.

To further put this conversation in the coffin, Goku kept taunting him. Essentially asking him if he's capable of taking in anymore power. Smiling every step of the way.

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:42 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Cipher wrote:I can see either a win or loss against Toppo next week benefitting the general thrust of the arc. Goku winning means there's an even bigger target on his back, especially in the eyes of other members of the Pride Troopers(?). Goku losing means the crisis of potential erasure really comes home for the Universe 7 team, even though it should already be there.
This would explain the OP considering the Toppo is the leader yet is hardly in it and it is all Paul.
Ditto, bald alien dude is probably stronger than his leader so he leaves Goku to him instead.
I would go for Toppo getting rekt, making Goku look more dangerous to the others, him losing will be like "yeah we got nothin to worry about anymore, Toppo can handle Goku" they need to put a lot more danger vibes to Goku for this to work.

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by emperior » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:16 am

emperior wrote:Goku vs Toppo will end without a winner (not a tie)
I knew it. It seems like Daishinkan will interrupt the battle.
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by MagmonKai » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:44 pm

Does that mean Goku is near GoD level by now? If he can go toe-to-toe with another potential GoD?

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by julianix » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:44 am

So I guess Toei messed up yet again and thought Toppo was the bald alien guy hahahaha. Toriyama called later and told them his plan was for the dumb looking mustache guy to be the strong one. Can't blame Toei for assuming the cool one was the main guy.

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:00 am

julianix wrote:So I guess Toei messed up yet again and thought Toppo was the bald alien guy hahahaha. Toriyama called later and told them his plan was for the dumb looking mustache guy to be the strong one. Can't blame Toei for assuming the cool one was the main guy.
We have absolutely no confirmation of this, and it has near zero chances of happening
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by julianix » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:22 am

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julianix wrote:So I guess Toei messed up yet again and thought Toppo was the bald alien guy hahahaha. Toriyama called later and told them his plan was for the dumb looking mustache guy to be the strong one. Can't blame Toei for assuming the cool one was the main guy.
We have absolutely no confirmation of this, and it has near zero chances of happening
Why did they animate him as the hooded guy 1st then change it later to fit toppos physique? I am absolutely hoping it wasn't a mistake and the bald alien guy is the main guy. But it's not like Toei and Toriyama have been on the same page recently. I mean just blatant dumb mistakes on their behalf. I wouldn't doubt they animated the wrong guy in the opening.
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by julianix » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:23 am

..double post

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:28 am

julianix wrote:
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julianix wrote:So I guess Toei messed up yet again and thought Toppo was the bald alien guy hahahaha. Toriyama called later and told them his plan was for the dumb looking mustache guy to be the strong one. Can't blame Toei for assuming the cool one was the main guy.
We have absolutely no confirmation of this, and it has near zero chances of happening
Why did they animate him as the hooded guy 1st then change it later to fit toppos physique? I am absolutely hoping it wasn't a mistake and the bald alien guy is thw main guy. But it's not like Toei and Toriyama have been in the same page recently. I mean just blatant dumb mistakes in their behalf. I wouldn't doubt they animated the wrong guy in the opening.
They have the whole story with characters, it must have been an error in making the hooded guy that's all..
It's all speculation at this point, it's highly unlikely for it to happen..

Although I agree with the dumb mistakes on their part, they haven't been too good in that lately
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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by Big Black Sayian » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:48 am

julianix wrote:So I guess Toei messed up yet again and thought Toppo was the bald alien guy hahahaha. Toriyama called later and told them his plan was for the dumb looking mustache guy to be the strong one. Can't blame Toei for assuming the cool one was the main guy.
That doesn't make any sense considering the bald dude is still all over opening.

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Re: I See Death Flags for Toppo

Post by julianix » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:31 pm

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julianix wrote:So I guess Toei messed up yet again and thought Toppo was the bald alien guy hahahaha. Toriyama called later and told them his plan was for the dumb looking mustache guy to be the strong one. Can't blame Toei for assuming the cool one was the main guy.
That doesn't make any sense considering the bald dude is still all over opening.
You gotta read around there's rumors everywhere Toei and Toriyama weren't on the same page with the characters. I hope they didn't but they messed up on basic stuff already I wouldn't put it past them to animate the intro thinking the bald guy was Toppo.

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