Did Toei and Toriyama Shorten the Power Scale to Allow More Competition?

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Re: Did Toei and Toriyama Shorten the Power Scale to Allow More Competition?

Post by BWri » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:09 pm

TheMikado wrote:The problem is they specific reiterated the expected multiplier when Zamasu says Goku gets around several dozen times stronger as a SSJ.
Haha, that's true. But it's still purposely vague. Several dozen times could range from 24x to who knows how large.
dragonballgeek wrote:All the ridiculous scaling would easily be fixed if they gathered all the fighters who aren't Goku and Vegeta, and Whis sends them off to a place where they can get special training for a decent amount of time. To me that just seems too obvious. Bring the bottom fighters up to a reasonable standard through special training from an Angel. Through this you could significantly close the gap in power and make everyone happy.

Maybe they're saving it for a later arc if it's ever mortals vs Dieties. I just don't understand how those people at Toei just turn a blind eye to this kind of stuff. Do they even like the show or is it just a bunch of people looking to make ends meet at work?
I honestly don't get why Toei and Toriyama only gave everyone 48 hours to get their sh** together. It would have been far more compelling to have a longer period of progression to see everyone improve. This sudden surge in progression from everyone does seem pretty convenient. I doubt anyone is going to the time chamber anytime soon either.
KingKash wrote:I'm all for giving secondary characters some love and attention and making them relevant again even if it makes no sense on a power level scale. We know that at the end of this ToP, the heavyweights like Toppo, Jiren, Hit, Vegeta and Goku will be left to duke it out so we can get the extremely powerful fighters stuff at the end. I feel like what makes a show great is not the greatness of the protagonist but how good the supporting characters are. I've always been one to be drawn towards the supporting characters because I know that the protagonist will only go through a few downs but will always win at the end. It's predictable. Secondary characters go through the struggles and it's more unpredictable if they'll win or lose which I like. So I'm all for this. And don't expect logic from the DB series!
Same here. That's why my favorite arc was the Cell saga, and favorite scene was Z Fighters vs. Cell Jrs. Special shoutouts to the underdogs Joey Wheeler, Kuwabara, and Krillin who had the most unpredictable challenges. I think they'll manage to do something cool with everyone before they get thrown on their collective asses so Goku can win it all.
emperior wrote:The main problem right now is that Toriyama doesn't want to move on from the 10 years gap, so characters are stuck with little time to get their usual improvement. Apart from 17 which in-universe hasn't been seen since Cell Games, everyone gets powered up in few days, while since the very beginning of the serie (21st Budokai Tenkaichi) characters have always had a reasonable amount of time to train and improve. If Gohan jumps up tiers without going into the RoSaT in these remaining 37 hours before the tournament, I'm going to call it bullshit. I would prefer if he gets a new form through rage at the tournament (like Future Trunks) than seeing him get powered up to SSG+ levels in 37 hours of training with Piccolo.
Should've given them 4 months like Frieza. I just want them to stop placing limits on everyone who's not plot relevant since limits clearly don't exist when the plot calls for it.
BlueBasilisk wrote:It doesn't help that the human characters all but dropped off the radar after Namek and the rest after the Cell games. Many of them just gave up fighting because they didn't feel like they could keep up with the Super Saiyans and they've never done the limit busting hard core training the Saiyans did. I'm perfectly fine with the non-Saiyans having some sort of epiphany and blowing past their previous limitations. Never bothered me when Goku, Gohan or Vegeta did it.
Yeah, I love the limit breaking stuff. Just wish they did it more often. It makes sense for Krillin though, since this is a different sort of fight, but I think guys like Piccolo and Tien would have done it sooner since they're so much like Goku and Vegeta.
Big fan of the characters of Dragon Ball, all of them, especially formerly prominent sub-characters. -__-

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