Universe 7 warriors that could possibly be erased in the upcoming tournament?

[Basako]

What happens in filler episodes doesn't make the humans, "useless." Wait to see how they perform in the tournament.

So now they're fillers now that we're using it to estimate the power levels and relevancy of humans, but when everyone was criticizing saying the episodes were pointless fillers because nothing substantial was happening everyone was defending them saying they're not filler? You can't have it both ways

Man, you first tell which one is it in this sentence, can't be both ways. Did everyone thought they were pointless fillers or that they were not fillers?

Precita is not everyone anyway.

[Zagacious]

What happens in filler episodes doesn't make the humans, "useless." Wait to see how they perform in the tournament.

So now they're fillers now that we're using it to estimate the power levels and relevancy of humans, but when everyone was criticizing saying the episodes were pointless fillers because nothing substantial was happening everyone was defending them saying they're not filler? You can't have it both ways

Man, you first tell which one is it in this sentence, can't be both ways. Did everyone thought they were pointless fillers or that they were not fillers?

Precita is not everyone anyway.

When people criticized the episode and saying it was filler, everyone was defending it saying how it builds character and etc even though nothing substantial happened.
When people are using it to compare to other episodes to estimate or justify other things like the humans' power level not making sense, they say oh it doesn't matter it's filler.

You can't have it both ways. And even if they are all filler, it's the only thing we have about the humans.

[Basako]

So now they're fillers now that we're using it to estimate the power levels and relevancy of humans, but when everyone was criticizing saying the episodes were pointless fillers because nothing substantial was happening everyone was defending them saying they're not filler? You can't have it both ways

Man, you first tell which one is it in this sentence, can't be both ways. Did everyone thought they were pointless fillers or that they were not fillers?

Precita is not everyone anyway.

When people criticized the episode and saying it was filler, everyone was defending it saying how it builds character and etc even though nothing substantial happened.
When people are using it to compare to other episodes to estimate or justify other things like the humans' power level not making sense, they say oh it doesn't matter it's filler.

You can't have it both ways. And even if they are all filler, it's the only thing we have about the humans.

But why should Precita respond for what "everyone" or "people" said? He or she, sorry, didn't say it both ways, said just one, that it's filler and we should wait.

[Zagacious]

Man, you first tell which one is it in this sentence, can't be both ways. Did everyone thought they were pointless fillers or that they were not fillers?

Precita is not everyone anyway.

When people criticized the episode and saying it was filler, everyone was defending it saying how it builds character and etc even though nothing substantial happened.
When people are using it to compare to other episodes to estimate or justify other things like the humans' power level not making sense, they say oh it doesn't matter it's filler.

You can't have it both ways. And even if they are all filler, it's the only thing we have about the humans.

But why should Precita respond for what "everyone" or "people" said? He or she, sorry, didn't say it both ways, said just one, that it's filler and we should wait.

Not just you but it's a common excuse I'm seeing very often now. When people want to say DBS has too many padded episodes that are almost entirely filler, people are willing to defend it to the death.
But when we want to analyze said episodes to compare things in the future, it's "oh that was just a filler it isn't relevant
I'm just sick of people ignoring and defying their own logic to defend Super, even when things don't make any sense.

[Shinda Forever]

I Hope Tenshinhan can be erased forever from the show since they made him a total useless weakling and didn't waste a single second with him in the recruitment arc, but, i confess that i also would love to see Frieza crush midget Kuririn's head with his bare hands.
I find funny how Vegeta fanboys are desperate to see Hitto defeated. It seems that they didn't like the beating he has received.

What's with the hate against human characters?

1. They made them useless by the end of DBZ.
2. They tried to make them relevant again training for the tournament of power
3. Multiple episodes were dedicated to pushing the idea that strategy can win over raw power, without actually showing us how it could work
4. Tien/Master Roshi episode made Tien, one of the most popular humans, seem incredibly weak, as did the tag team episode
5. When actual strategy is tested, the raw power wins out anyways (See Gohan/Goku tag team episode)
6. Krillin showing sparring with (reduced power) SSB Goku, when at this point a regular SSJ should probably be able to one shot Krillin and any of the humans.

So basically, they botched all attempts to make them useful again... which makes them even more annoying because now they're just taking up episode time. Don't get me wrong I like some of the human characters (Tien mostly, and yes I know he's not exactly human, but his power is around their levels), but they're messing up any and every opportunity to make them relevant again.

This is just my personal opinion but they need to give humans (including Tien) and Namekians a potential god form, which 1 or 2 of them may unlock late in the ToP. Similar to how mystic or potential is unlocked but just 'always' being in the god form, if they want to continue using them for the series (after ToP), only way they can be relevant power wise is to give them these boosts, otherwise it doesn't make much sense for them to be anywhere near SSB or even SS3 level. (Piccolo maybe, but he has still shown to cap out around SS2-3ish level)

Magnificent post! I agree 100% with you.

[TekTheNinja]

I don't understand the hate to the human characters. They bring the heart to the show. Krillin Yamcha and Tenshinhan are my favorites even.

[Zagacious]

I believe that only a few or none of the universes will get erased at the end of the ToP, or many will get erased and then restored either via Zeno or the Super Dragon Balls. If a character gets erased once they fall off the stage as some people are suggesting then that changes things a bit. The ones with the least speed, power, and mobility will be knocked off quickly.

I think Zeno will be convinced to not erase any universes, and instead start hosting tournaments regularly, because of how much excitement the ToP will give him. Look at how much excitement he's gotten over Majin Buu, Trio De Dangers, and Goku vs Toppo.

If Zenos does stick to his rule of erasing universes, I believe whoever has the Super Dragon Balls will restore 1 or all of the erased universes (Probably Universe 7, but could be 11 who knows)

Why do people keep assuming the Super Dragon Balls can undo what Zeno does? Its a kids show so everything will work out...but it doesnt make logical sense.

We don't really know how powerful the Super Dragon Balls are, and Zenos abilities are extremely vague beyond just erasing things at will. He is not completely omnipotent though, because he was able to be copied just by manipulating time. I'm sure he could 'undo' it if he wanted to, but if Zeno can be affected by time travel, then it shows he is not completely invulnerable to everything.

Also since the Kais/Gods had such strict limits on time travel with the rings, it makes you wonder if this might be the one weakness that even Zeno has.

[Basaku]

Why do people keep assuming the Super Dragon Balls can undo what Zeno does? Its a kids show so everything will work out...but it doesnt make logical sense.

It's a possibility. We don't know what's the limit of SDBs power, if there's any. Zarama may have been more powerfull than Zen-oh, who knows. Zen-oh's a prime candidate for potential villain/conflict anyway so it would be good to have SDBs capable of undoing his destruction

[Shinda Forever]

I don't understand the hate to the human characters. They bring the heart to the show. Krillin Yamcha and Tenshinhan are my favorites even.

There is no hate or they make them powerful to be useful like Zagacious said or it is better to let them go. Just read what he wrote:
1. They made them useless by the end of DBZ.
2. They tried to make them relevant again training for the tournament of power
3. Multiple episodes were dedicated to pushing the idea that strategy can win over raw power, without actually showing us how it could work
4. Tien/Master Roshi episode made Tien, one of the most popular humans, seem incredibly weak, as did the tag team episode
5. When actual strategy is tested, the raw power wins out anyways (See Gohan/Goku tag team episode)

[TekTheNinja]

I don't understand the hate to the human characters. They bring the heart to the show. Krillin Yamcha and Tenshinhan are my favorites even.

There is no hate or they make them powerful to be useful like Zagacious said or it is better to let them go. Just read what he wrote:
1. They made them useless by the end of DBZ.
2. They tried to make them relevant again training for the tournament of power
3. Multiple episodes were dedicated to pushing the idea that strategy can win over raw power, without actually showing us how it could work
4. Tien/Master Roshi episode made Tien, one of the most popular humans, seem incredibly weak, as did the tag team episode
5. When actual strategy is tested, the raw power wins out anyways (See Gohan/Goku tag team episode)

Oh I agree, but there also seem to be actual contempt for them too in some cases.

[Hellspawn28]

Freeza would probably end up being erased for good.