Are Spoilers and Leaks Ruining the Dragonball Super Experience?

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Re: Are Spoilers and Leaks Ruining the Dragonball Super Experience?

Post by Drellz26 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:00 pm

Simere wrote:I guess I have to ask: if it's such a negative for you, why risk coming to the fandom? Do you enjoy us that much more?

Fandom wasn't something I was aware of when I first experienced DB. Spoilers, on the other hand, were very much a part of my experience. I always knew the general direction the story was going. Not because I predicted it or anything; I was just somehow always aware of the broad strokes. Merchandising, I suppose. And catching episodes out of order.

Most my favorite stories were spoiled before I properly read/watched/played them. Come to think of it, nowadays I don't give any new stories a chance unless I spoil it to make sure I'll enjoy something first. With stories that are highly prone to disappointing me, like DBS(though it hasn't really yet), I think spoilers help me manage my expectations.

Well I was a child watching, before the days of internet and forumning. I know my account is new, but I've been lurking here way before Super got started so yes I do enjoy talking with/reading thoughts from the fandom, watching discussions/debates/predictions on YouTube, etc. I'm not complaining that spoilers are discussed, I've been using different forums for 10 plus years now so spoilers every now and then are something I've accepted but it feels like I can't go ANYWHERE without having something ruined. I see your point though, but that's basically saying avoid the internet completely for a month, these spoilers aren't just a week out.

Title leaks don't bother me much either, we're wrong about what actually happens most of the time anyways.

Also after reading the comments and trying to respond to some of these post, I'm realizing I didn't feel this way during any other arc or about wrestling,movies, or any other show. It's avoid anything until I watch.

I think it's just because it's the actual tournament that the spoilers have bothered me lately, on top of them being weeks out.


Edit: For all of the just avoid them responses, I am. But like I said there's no way to avoid 100% unless I just stopped coming here and muted "Dragonball" else where. And that's no fun. I still haven't seen any spoilers for the tournament since Frieza so trust me, I know how to avoid but I've seen enough Krillin talk to know to look for something with him. That's enough to ruin the experience for some and I was curious on everyone's outlook.

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Post by Shinda Forever » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:14 pm

Kanious wrote:To me not. Actually, the spoilers make me hype more and more, and feel more anxious to watch DBS.
That's what i feel as well. Spoilers and leaks make things more exciting.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:17 pm

Shinda Forever wrote:
Kanious wrote:To me not. Actually, the spoilers make me hype more and more, and feel more anxious to watch DBS.
That's what i feel as well. Spoilers and leaks make things more exciting.
This.

Also add to this the fact that spoilers open up so much discussion.

For example: We find out a peanut butter jar will be opened next episode. Who opens it? Why? Are there consequences? Was it even their peanut butter?

Obviously thats a fake example to stay within the requests made by the OP
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Post by Torturephile » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:48 pm

It's still possible to enjoy the show even while knowing what's going to happen, as I may imagine how it will happen but I'm proven wrong once I watch it. It still does take away from the experience as I can no longer imagine all kinds of possible scenarios of what will happen based on current events within the show, and knowing what will happen ahead of time generally minimizes my excitement towards it.

This makes me believe Super came too late, as it's very hard to escape from spoilers if the series is something someone is addicted to. This also is why I don't care about Kai, as I already know what will happen.
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Post by MainJPW » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:52 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Shinda Forever wrote:
Kanious wrote:To me not. Actually, the spoilers make me hype more and more, and feel more anxious to watch DBS.
That's what i feel as well. Spoilers and leaks make things more exciting.
This.
These. I've actually never cared about spoilers from anything.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:37 pm

It depends. For some people, getting the most of story before going into the the full experience provide them with something to look forward to, and by virtue, they feel more enticed to go and watch the full experience. While other prefer to not anything about the plot and as they prefer to be surprised, whether the surprise is good or bad. Just the thrill of experiencing something that you had no idea was going to happen is enough for some people to make the experience worthwhile to them. It's very subjective.

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Post by Bullza » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:56 pm

I'd rather not have them. It's fun to look forward to certain things but way too much of this show has been spoiler ahead of time.

You can't really avoid the spoilers either.

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Post by avasatu » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:39 pm

Yes, they are. I don't even like NEP previews in-episode, but I'm ok with them because they generate hype. Anything beyond that is a disease, and it's tough the stay away from them if you want to have relevant discussions with people, since many of them just want to talk spoilers.

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Post by GodVegetto91 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:00 pm

No they are NOT! They are actually HYPING us up! If people don't like spoilers, then perhaps the internet isn't exactly the best place for you?

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:54 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote:No they are NOT! They are actually HYPING us up! If people don't like spoilers, then perhaps the internet isn't exactly the best place for you?
Trying to completely avoid Super spoilers when you're a Dragon Ball fan is basically staying off the Internet until Super ends, because, for a DB fan, they're everywhere. And, while I don't myself, some of us have jobs that require the Internet. You can't just stay off it.

To sum up my opinion on this, I don't think you can blame those who are avoiding spoilers when there seems to always be people, here and elsewhere, who put the spoilers out in the open for everyone to see. And before anyone says "just leave", it's not easy to walk away when you greatly appreciate the community as a whole or even partially.

Hopefully this doesn't come across as me singling someone out or anything like that, but I really think this needs to be said.
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Post by Doctor. » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:10 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Trying to completely avoid Super spoilers when you're a Dragon Ball fan is basically staying off the Internet until Super ends, because, for a DB fan, they're everywhere. And, while I don't myself, some of us have jobs that require the Internet. You can't just stay off it.
They're really not. You can stay out of Dragon Ball or anime-related websites and pages fairly easily, Dragon Ball Super isn't that popular that spoilers that last for only a month until the episode airs leak out into completely unrelated forums and pages. I've managed to stay completely spoiler-free on Star Wars of all things (besides the "I am your father" thing, which is inescapable due to its meme status) despite a new movie having aired just two years ago.

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Post by shadowmaria » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:46 pm

Don't mind spoilers for Dragon Ball Super, surprisingly

For me, they get me excited for the coming month and gives us lots to talk about. It also means that we know what we have to look forward to, and you have to remember that not everything is spoiled ahead of time (for example, Trunks' Spirit Sword)

They determine if I should fight with CR immediately, or give it a few hours and just read Herms' tweets instead.

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:51 pm

shadowmaria wrote:Don't mind spoilers for Dragon Ball Super, surprisingly

For me, they get me excited for the coming month and gives us lots to talk about. It also means that we know what we have to look forward to, and you have to remember that not everything is spoiled ahead of time (for example, Trunks' Spirit Sword)

They determine if I should fight with CR immediately, or give it a few hours and just read Herms' tweets instead.
The Spirit Sword was spoiled via a Yamamuro-drawn poster released a day before the episode aired.

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Post by shadowmaria » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:01 pm

Doctor. wrote:
shadowmaria wrote:Don't mind spoilers for Dragon Ball Super, surprisingly

For me, they get me excited for the coming month and gives us lots to talk about. It also means that we know what we have to look forward to, and you have to remember that not everything is spoiled ahead of time (for example, Trunks' Spirit Sword)

They determine if I should fight with CR immediately, or give it a few hours and just read Herms' tweets instead.
The Spirit Sword was spoiled via a Yamamuro-drawn poster released a day before the episode aired.
I didn't see it, but I supppse you're right

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Post by Basako » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:56 am

They are part of the experience now. It's always better to get the shocks with the series, but it's fine. They totally should reveal less in the summaries and better if they didn't make the previews either.
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Post by Kastex » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:55 am

one million times yes. for the record, i was going to make a similar thread about spoilers, but it would be more of a vent than a discussion. i'm glad i can still talk about it here though. i was pretty big into DBS spoilers until about episode 60 or so. it took me over a month to finally get beyond my spoiler knowledge. ever since then the series has been even more of a blessing. also ever since then i've clicked the "not interested" button on any DBS youtube video that seemed even slightly spoilish in the title or thumbnail. even so, frieza's resurrection was spoiled for me like 2 or 3 episodes prior, because some asshole youtuber wanted to make a spoiler video about it under the guise of a theory. if i had been exposed to frieza's return organically in the series then the quality of the experience would have been many times better for me.

now just fucking yesterday i'm on youtube watching a good DBS discussion video (because i still like watching good quality DBS discussion videos based on things that have already happened), and in the related videos that show on the video after the video ends, two potentially very important things coming up over the next 4-5 episodes have probably been spoiled for me. apparently one thing dealing with caulifla and another dealing with kale (i don't actually know the spoiler, so don't talk with me about it. just the click bait title and thumbnails are enough to give me a great general idea). i've been waiting for this tournament for over a year (since the u7 vs u6 tournament) and it's about to be ruined for me because these stupid youtubers can't get a fucking side job to offset lost revenue for their click bait spoiler bullshit.

like they will literally do the dumbest shit and then play it off as if they are in the right or straight up not give a damn. imagine like 7 weeks ago you check youtube and see "OMFG!? FRIEZA'S RETURN CONFIRMED!!! spoiler alert" in a title of some dumbass video with golden frieza on the tournament of power arena (this is not what spoiled frieza's return for me, but this is pretty much the nature of the click bait title and thumbnail spoilers i saw yesterday).

so once again i absolutely believe spoilers ruin DBS. i understand why spoilers were kinda important for like the first half of DBS because i guess they wanted to see how people would react to certain news over a period of time, but it's ruining the damn show now.

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Post by julianix » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:43 pm

When I was young I had no choice but to wait for the next episode, I didn't have the means to get spoiled. I admit the experience watching was much more intense.

Now a days it's spoiler mania all over the place. For example if I missed an episode of game of thrones I had to avoid everything online. I mean it's 10 episodes at best for a year wait. With dbs I'm not as strict. For example if I know there's going to be a buu or Freeza dominant episode I'm all over those spoilers like flys on shit.

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Post by Yomi » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:46 pm

If you watch Dragon Ball Super content on you-tube, you're going to get spoiled like crazy from the video suggestions.
Just this week my recommendations had 10's of videos with titles like "OMFG JIREN VS KALE?!?!? SUPER SAIYAN BLUE CAULIFLA!!!"

It's pretty difficult to avoid.
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:12 pm

Kastex wrote:one million times yes. for the record, i was going to make a similar thread about spoilers, but it would be more of a vent than a discussion. i'm glad i can still talk about it here though. i was pretty big into DBS spoilers until about episode 60 or so. it took me over a month to finally get beyond my spoiler knowledge. ever since then the series has been even more of a blessing. also ever since then i've clicked the "not interested" button on any DBS youtube video that seemed even slightly spoilish in the title or thumbnail. even so, frieza's resurrection was spoiled for me like 2 or 3 episodes prior, because some asshole youtuber wanted to make a spoiler video about it under the guise of a theory. if i had been exposed to frieza's return organically in the series then the quality of the experience would have been many times better for me.

now just fucking yesterday i'm on youtube watching a good DBS discussion video (because i still like watching good quality DBS discussion videos based on things that have already happened), and in the related videos that show on the video after the video ends, two potentially very important things coming up over the next 4-5 episodes have probably been spoiled for me. apparently one thing dealing with caulifla and another dealing with kale (i don't actually know the spoiler, so don't talk with me about it. just the click bait title and thumbnails are enough to give me a great general idea). i've been waiting for this tournament for over a year (since the u7 vs u6 tournament) and it's about to be ruined for me because these stupid youtubers can't get a fucking side job to offset lost revenue for their click bait spoiler bullshit.

like they will literally do the dumbest shit and then play it off as if they are in the right or straight up not give a damn. imagine like 7 weeks ago you check youtube and see "OMFG!? FRIEZA'S RETURN CONFIRMED!!! spoiler alert" in a title of some dumbass video with golden frieza on the tournament of power arena (this is not what spoiled frieza's return for me, but this is pretty much the nature of the click bait title and thumbnail spoilers i saw yesterday).

so once again i absolutely believe spoilers ruin DBS. i understand why spoilers were kinda important for like the first half of DBS because i guess they wanted to see how people would react to certain news over a period of time, but it's ruining the damn show now.
None of this post explained why you dont like them or how they are ruining the series though. I'm confused.
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Post by Kastex » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:26 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Kastex wrote:one million times yes. for the record, i was going to make a similar thread about spoilers, but it would be more of a vent than a discussion. i'm glad i can still talk about it here though. i was pretty big into DBS spoilers until about episode 60 or so. it took me over a month to finally get beyond my spoiler knowledge. ever since then the series has been even more of a blessing. also ever since then i've clicked the "not interested" button on any DBS youtube video that seemed even slightly spoilish in the title or thumbnail. even so, frieza's resurrection was spoiled for me like 2 or 3 episodes prior, because some asshole youtuber wanted to make a spoiler video about it under the guise of a theory. if i had been exposed to frieza's return organically in the series then the quality of the experience would have been many times better for me.

now just fucking yesterday i'm on youtube watching a good DBS discussion video (because i still like watching good quality DBS discussion videos based on things that have already happened), and in the related videos that show on the video after the video ends, two potentially very important things coming up over the next 4-5 episodes have probably been spoiled for me. apparently one thing dealing with caulifla and another dealing with kale (i don't actually know the spoiler, so don't talk with me about it. just the click bait title and thumbnails are enough to give me a great general idea). i've been waiting for this tournament for over a year (since the u7 vs u6 tournament) and it's about to be ruined for me because these stupid youtubers can't get a fucking side job to offset lost revenue for their click bait spoiler bullshit.

like they will literally do the dumbest shit and then play it off as if they are in the right or straight up not give a damn. imagine like 7 weeks ago you check youtube and see "OMFG!? FRIEZA'S RETURN CONFIRMED!!! spoiler alert" in a title of some dumbass video with golden frieza on the tournament of power arena (this is not what spoiled frieza's return for me, but this is pretty much the nature of the click bait title and thumbnail spoilers i saw yesterday).

so once again i absolutely believe spoilers ruin DBS. i understand why spoilers were kinda important for like the first half of DBS because i guess they wanted to see how people would react to certain news over a period of time, but it's ruining the damn show now.
None of this post explained why you dont like them or how they are ruining the series though. I'm confused.
"if i had been exposed to frieza's return organically in the series then the quality of the experience would have been many times better for me"

taking that apart further, i'm just the type of viewer that prefers to watch the series organically through the actual series, rather than being told what's going to happen in the series before watching it happen. like for example being told before hand that goku and gohan are going to have an eating contest and gohan will win, then a few days later you sit down to watch goku and gohan having a eating contest then gohan wins. what's the point of watching it if you were already told, right? in reality there is much more detail in watching it rather than reading the highlights, but it still takes a lot from the organic experience.

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