Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
Saikyo no Senshi wrote:Wow. What a terrible terrible 20th anniversary present. I'm not sure how the One Piece fandom is feeling. This doesn't look good.
And, as for the topic no, not at all. I don't want any Dragon Ball characters appearing in it and I'm pretty sure it is not going to happen.
One Piece is my favourite manga series of all time, and I can tell you that personally, I do not want this to exist. Under any circumstances. I've seen what happened with Evolution, and I can only anticipate a train wreck of equal proportions.
A few manga/anime series translate well to live-action, and can be done right. Like the Rurouni Kenshin trilogy, which was phenomenal. One Piece, on the other hand, is far too cartoonish, wacky and absurd to look good in live-action.
I hope this abomination is scrapped in the pre-production process. I have the utmost faith in Oda to deliver, but I sure as hell don't trust Hollywood with an anime adaptation.
TheGodfather93 wrote:
A few manga/anime series translate well to live-action, and can be done right. Like the Rurouni Kenshin trilogy, which was phenomenal. One Piece, on the other hand, is far too cartoonish, wacky and absurd to look good in live-action.
You know the anime comedy Gintama? A live-action film released last week and it was seriously popular, with people saying it took a few liberties, but was as fun as the anime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQBUQmfuMlU
All you really need is the right mix of fun and realism, faithfulness and creative liberty. After all, look at Thor Ragnarok, Hollywood has the budget it just needs the right people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue80QwXMRHg
"Don't take pleasure in destruction!" / "I will not let you destroy my world!"
A true hero goes beyond not the limits of power, but the limits that divide countries and people.
TheGodfather93 wrote:
A few manga/anime series translate well to live-action, and can be done right. Like the Rurouni Kenshin trilogy, which was phenomenal. One Piece, on the other hand, is far too cartoonish, wacky and absurd to look good in live-action.
You know the anime comedy Gintama? A live-action film released last week and it was seriously popular, with people saying it took a few liberties, but was as fun as the anime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQBUQmfuMlU
All you really need is the right mix of fun and realism, faithfulness and creative liberty. After all, look at Thor Ragnarok, Hollywood has the budget it just needs the right people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue80QwXMRHg
Gintama and Thor have concepts that are way grounded than One Piece. Have you actually seen how overly absurd and cartoonish the designs are for characters in One Piece? That's isn't even getting into how unorthodox the abilities are in the show. How are they going to be able to pull of making the Straw Hat crew look decent with a TV budget?
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
DragonBallFoodie wrote:Gintama and Thor have concepts that are way grounded than One Piece. Have you actually seen how overly absurd and cartoonish the designs are for characters in One Piece? That's isn't even getting into how unorthodox the abilities are in the show. How are they going to be able to pull of making the Straw Hat crew look decent with a TV budget?
But I must admit that these guys have to be really careful in how they adapt the series to live-action, primarily they'll have to choose which design elements to maintain/scrap and choose which story arcs to adapt.
There has been Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, live-action Transformers, pirates of the Caribbean, and cinematic universes from Marvel and DC comics. Live-action anime/manga has primarily been low-budget stories, but I think that they can venture into the adventure fantasy genre and work out.
Anyway we'll have to see where this goes and if it works out. And I think this thread has gone off-topic, but if you wish to continue discussing this that's fine.
"Don't take pleasure in destruction!" / "I will not let you destroy my world!"
A true hero goes beyond not the limits of power, but the limits that divide countries and people.
DragonBallFoodie wrote:Gintama and Thor have concepts that are way grounded than One Piece. Have you actually seen how overly absurd and cartoonish the designs are for characters in One Piece? That's isn't even getting into how unorthodox the abilities are in the show. How are they going to be able to pull of making the Straw Hat crew look decent with a TV budget?
But I must admit that these guys have to be really careful in how they adapt the series to live-action, primarily they'll have to choose which design elements to maintain/scrap and choose which story arcs to adapt.
There has been Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, live-action Transformers, pirates of the Caribbean, and cinematic universes from Marvel and DC comics. Live-action anime/manga has primarily been low-budget stories, but I think that they can venture into the adventure fantasy genre and work out.
Anyway we'll have to see where this goes and if it works out. And I think this thread has gone off-topic, but if you wish to continue discussing this that's fine.
Currently The Crown has the record for the highest amount of money spent on a TV show at 130 million dollars. And that was just for 10 episodes. If they are plan on making this One Piece TV last long, they better get this right and better be ready to gamble a shit ton of money for this.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Calling Oda and Toriyama friends seems like a bit of an overstatement. Toriyama said he enjoyed what he read of One Piece in the Color Walk 1 interview, and they worked together for Cross Epoch and...I think that's about it for their relationship?
Regardless of that, no, I don't particularly want any Dragon Ball characters to appear in this TV series. Even assuming it turns out better than anyone could have possibly expected, randomly throwing in DB cameos would just be really awkward.
