Goku's excitement to meet and train Uub is starting make a little less sense

[TysonWine]

I find it baffling some of you don't realize this...

I find it mind blowing that people don't understand...

I find it odd people...

Why is it such a revelation that people think differently than you?

[Kanassa]

If Uub is already as strong as Kid Buu or a SSJ3, with training he'll easily achieve god like power and be on the level of Super Saiyan Blue. Look at what they did with 17.

This isn't rocket science. I find it mind blowing that people don't understand why Goku would train Uub now after Super's stories.

Goku being excited to train a reincarnation of Kid Buu when he has met god power level beings already in Super and people questioning it is totally rational I would hardly consider it 'mind-blowing' that people would question it. I would too, actually. Regardless if Uub has high potential or whatever, Goku has already met beings that Uub could not possibly match up like Grand Priest already.

Goku is always excited for strong fighters, even if he knows there are stronger out there

[omaro34]

A lot won't make sense from the original ending of DBZ since it was done 2 decades before Super even began. From an in universe standpoint, Goku could have technically gone God form with Blue hair when he fought Uub during the 28th Budokai. There definitely will be contradictions, that shouldn't be surprising.

[precita]

A lot won't make sense from the original ending of DBZ since it was done 2 decades before Super even began. From an in universe standpoint, Goku could have technically gone God form with Blue hair when he fought Uub during the 28th Budokai. There definitely will be contradictions, that shouldn't be surprising.

Why? Goku didn't even bother going Super Saiyan when he could of at the time. Toriyama just purposely didn't have him power up. So having him not go Blue is like asking why he didn't go Super Saiyan.

[Almighty Majin]

Goku is so excited for Uub because he has the greatest potential as he is a human that was born with Kid Buu's colossal power as a base. Freeza in 4 months was able to reach god level because he was born with extraordinary power. Uub is the same way except he was born with a much higher power and he did train for the tournament as well so he should be stronger than Buu.

[precita]

Goku is so excited for Uub because he has the greatest potential as he is a human that was born with Kid Buu's colossal power as a base. Freeza in 4 months was able to reach god level because he was born with extraordinary power. Uub is the same way except he was born with a much higher power and he did train for the tournament as well so he should be stronger than Buu.

Exactly. This is the same point I was trying to get across. That's why I have no idea why so many others find this bizarre.

[omaro34]

A lot won't make sense from the original ending of DBZ since it was done 2 decades before Super even began. From an in universe standpoint, Goku could have technically gone God form with Blue hair when he fought Uub during the 28th Budokai. There definitely will be contradictions, that shouldn't be surprising.

Why? Goku didn't even bother going Super Saiyan when he could of at the time. Toriyama just purposely didn't have him power up. So having him not go Blue is like asking why he didn't go Super Saiyan.

I'm not questioning whether or not he should have gone Blue, my point is that using the linear time setting of the show, Goku should have the ability to go Blue when he fought Uub. That's all I'm saying.

[GreatSaiyaJeff]

I never thought it was weird. Goku is always excited for the next challenge and Uub being reincarnated of one of his most challenging foes probably excited him even more.

[Hellspawn28]

The ending of the manga still works because Goku probably wanted a student for him to train with. He probably knew that Buu can become a good person and wanted him to be a powerful ally on his side. Yeah he fought people way stronger after Buu, but he still wanted the evil version of Majin Buu to be reborn to have a second chance.

[Basako]

The ending still works for me. I hope the next DB sequel has the balls to do what GT didn't, make Oob the main character. Yeah, it's a risk, but that was what Toriyama left for the future, it should be respected. Well handled, it could work. We got more Goku and the rest in Super, but it's a midquel, it's totally fine.

Making Goku a kid again was the worst of GT, in a wide sea of bad things. Sorry GT fans, I'm not.

[jplaya2023]

once the ending is retconned it will make a lot more sense.

[Basako]

once the ending is retconned it will make a lot more sense.

It won't be and there's no need for that, it already makes sense.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The ending still works for me. I hope the next DB sequel has the balls to do what GT didn't, make Oob the main character. Yeah, it's a risk, but that was what Toriyama left for the future, it should be respected. Well handled, it could work. We got more Goku and the rest in Super, but it's a midquel, it's totally fine.

Making Goku a kid again was the worst of GT, in a wide sea of bad things. Sorry GT fans, I'm not.

I prefer EoZ as an ending just fine tbh, wouldn't want to see post EoZ explored, I am sucker for "adventure continues" type ending and it really works for DB.

[SansrivaaL]

Yeah it makes sense, they had Freeza go from SSJ1 tier to above SSJB tier with stamina issues, tho this would probably make you think "Freeza's the most iconic villain in DB history, ofc they would give him a massive boost" then just look at 17, the guy was literally a nobody and was only partially important at the start of Cell saga which his purpose was only to be a part of Cell's perfection montage who was merely at SSJ1 levels (above Freeza) that can now even have the nerve to hold back on a SSJB tier (I can hear 17 shouting to Cell "Who's perfect now Cell! WHO'S PERFECTION NOW!") then they can definitely give Oob enough potential, more so if Goku's the one mentoring him, the kid would be a force to be reckoned with after Goku's done with him.
PS. no 17 fans were harmed in making this post (I hope).

[superfan2024]

A few people in this thread helped me realize that with a few adjustments and/or retcons added to the EoZ, my little "issue" would be solved. If not, then oh well. Anyways, thanks for everyone responding so far. I think this thread can be locked now.

[precita]

I'd also wager Goku is training Uub for the next tournament in Super, the one where the last 4 universes would compete in a future arc. So it makes sense Goku would want another strong fighter on his team.

[Ranmaru Rei]

Actually, there is one moment that bugs me now.
In EoZ Bulma says that Goku and Bulma have no met for 5 years. EoZ is in 784. Now in DBS is 780. WTF, lol.
They now at least should retcon this moment.

[Basako]

Actually, there is one moment that bugs me now.
In EoZ Bulma says that Goku and Bulma have no met for 5 years. EoZ is in 784. Now in DBS is 780. WTF, lol.
They now at least should retcon this moment.

I think we are able to forgive those little inconsistencies considering Super was not planned from the begining. It can also be considered just a manner of speaking, people are not always exact in what they say, she just said an approximate number. Maybe it's four and a half years, so what's the big deal in saying five?

[Basako]

I'm going to say something else about the supposed EoZ retcon, a bit of a history lesson.

First it was this:

-I'ts gonna be retconed because Super is happening six months after the Boo arc and Videl is pregnant, so Pan couldn't be four years.

-Look Goten and Trunks, this is happening six months after the EoZ, otherwise they would look taller.

-We don't know if Videl is pregnant of Pan, maybe it's another saiyan.

Of course, it was confirmed it was Pan, born in the year 789 and the kids not growing was just inconsistent aging. Some people still think the Beerus arc happened after six months, I read someone saying it this week on Reddit and with several positive points to the comment. Facepalm.

Then about Oob:

-Where is Oob? This character doesn't exist in Super, the EoZ is being retconed.

In some time Oob was mentioned by Goku before the 6 & 7th universes tournament. That was Toei hinting the EoZ was valid, but no, we got this:

-Hey, but Vegeta didn't know anything about Oob, this means the EoZ is retconed.

Of course, not even considereng this could be just a writing inconsistency or that Vegeta could forget a one minute conversation he had five years ago, for those who don't like inconsistencies.

Then, of course Bra, all during the Zamasu arc it was like this:

-Bra doesn't exist, the EoZ has been retconed. She should be born by now and it's the year 781.

Or worse:

-Bra should be one year older than Pan, so the EoZ is retconed.

Finally the US arc started and we had pregnant Bulma and of course Bra. It's the year 780 and everything is fine to match with the EoZ. Bra was never older than Pan, that was just a mistake in a guide, I think.

Other honorable mentions:

-The EoZ is retconed because the narrator said they had been 10 peaceful years since the Boo arc.

This was just false, the narrator said 10 years, nothing about peaceful.

-The EoZ is retconed because Goku didn't use the SSG or the SSB in that tournament against Oob.

Like just for not using them it meant they didn't exist. That would apply to the SS too, because he didn't use it either.

-Beerus, Whis and the Pilaf gang weren't in the tournament, so the EoZ is retconed.

Like they couldn't be somewhere else for any reason.

-Bulma said they hadn't seen Goku in five years, so it has to be retconed.

Saying five instead of four and a half, apparently another big issue. And look, some member in here noticed that they just said it's been five years since Goku visited them, so it doesn't even mean they haven't seen each other in other circumstances.

Just saying this is an old discussion and everything has been fairly matching up with the EoZ for now. It's not gonna be retconed, they are not going to touch it. It's part of Toriyama's original story, Super is happening between two points, anything before and after that is not going to be changed. That happened or it will happen, depends how you look at it.

[Ilikepictures-meh]

The ending still works for me. I hope the next DB sequel has the balls to do what GT didn't, make Oob the main character. Yeah, it's a risk, but that was what Toriyama left for the future, it should be respected. Well handled, it could work. We got more Goku and the rest in Super, but it's a midquel, it's totally fine.

Making Goku a kid again was the worst of GT, in a wide sea of bad things. Sorry GT fans, I'm not.

I prefer EoZ as an ending just fine tbh, wouldn't want to see post EoZ explored, I am sucker for "adventure continues" type ending and it really works for DB.

You realize they could continue the story post endofz easily, and eventually "end" the series again with another "adventure continues" type ending just as easily.