Future Trunks In The Super Manga

[MrBlackFox]

I don't see how you can be a future trunks fan and be pleased with what toyotaro did with him in the manga. There's no personal protagonist/antagonist dynamic in the manga causing a emotional disconnect. Trunks being a glorified pro wrestling manager in the manga and fighting for no one makes the whole arc feel pointless and empty.

I agree with what lord beerus wrote. My thoughts exactly

This.

Except for the manga quote, for me it's valid for both the manga and the anime
I started watching Dragon Ball at 5 because of Future Trunks, who was my favorite character until his arc in Super ended, that basically destroyed everything I loved about the character

[SsjCookie]

I don't see how you can be a future trunks fan and be pleased with what toyotaro did with him in the manga. There's no personal protagonist/antagonist dynamic in the manga causing a emotional disconnect. Trunks being a glorified pro wrestling manager in the manga and fighting for no one makes the whole arc feel pointless and empty.

I agree with what lord beerus wrote. My thoughts exactly

Agreed.
The Manga was in it self a big disappointment in comparison with the Anime.
Trunks was side tracked in his own arc in favour of Goku and Vegeta, I mean... don't we see enough of them already?!
Instead of letting him fight for the survival of his "OWN" universe they gave him some lame healing powers and let him be the "Dende" of the show.
A role he really is not suited for.

[TheMikado]

I don't see how you can be a future trunks fan and be pleased with what toyotaro did with him in the manga. There's no personal protagonist/antagonist dynamic in the manga causing a emotional disconnect. Trunks being a glorified pro wrestling manager in the manga and fighting for no one makes the whole arc feel pointless and empty.

I agree with what lord beerus wrote. My thoughts exactly

Agreed.
The Manga was in it self a big disappointment in comparison with the Anime.
Trunks was side tracked in his own arc in favour of Goku and Vegeta, I mean... don't we see enough of them already?!
Instead of letting him fight for the survival of his "OWN" universe they gave him some lame healing powers and let him be the "Dende" of the show.
A role he really is not suited for.

Future Trunks is my second favorite character in the series as I'm beyond disgusted with his handling in Super. He should have never comeback in the first place. I was most most pissed off because they ruined his world and "hope" ending for flipping PAYCHECK. The dude wasn't necessary at all and they asked Toriyama to make a story with him. Flip that, it's unbelievably disgusting.

That being said I prefer the manga. The Buu saga Trunks story was amazing and brilliant, plus it kept with Trunks theme or coming out on the other side of tragedy and sole "protector"/survivor theme. I don't mind him not doing much because he should have never been there in the first place, plus the idea that Trunks base was somehow equal to a Goku who has trained with Whis and was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks was beyond ludicrous in the anime.

[Draconic]

Future Trunks in the Super manga is probably the worst interpretation of the character across all mediums. While stuff like Xeno Trunks or Movie 9 Trunks kinda miss the point of his character too, none of those are actual stories where he has to showcase personality. In Xenoverse his quirk is being kind of a goof and in the Bojack movie to just be a badass. In the Super manga, he's just there. He probably has even less to do with the plot than in the Cell arc (post Mecha-Freeza), which is really saying something.

The chaos is taking place in his timeline and in his home, but none of that seems to take a toll on him at any point, providing no way to make his inclusion feel natural, outside of being a punching bag for Black when he needs to save the big guns. Then, it's revealed he heals people in order to keep him close to the story, but, while the revelation is handled great and the foreshadowing is done very very well, that role doesn't have anything to do with what the character actually stands for in this conflict.

I guess Toyotaro was trying to go with Zamasu, chosen to be a god and abusing that status, being foiled by Trunks, a mortal who comes out on top with the help of the gods (Kaioshin against Buu and the Blue Saiyans/Beerus against Black). Trunks gets his godly powers because he earns them, while Zamasu abuses them. And while the concept is intriguing, the execution of it leaves much to be desired, especially since even with those newfound powers he's still useless. Say what you want about the anime and it's "asspulls" but the it's story is themed as a mortals vs god story from the start, with Trunks as the last hope of humanity, and the show never loses track of that theme (Trunks' new form is achieved by anger, which Black calls an ugly way only a mortal could cook, and the Genki Sword is created from the lifeforce of every remaining human).

It's not really even Trunks himself that doesn't work for the story in the way he's set up, but more of the fault of Black and Zamasu, who are so bland that they can't really allow for him or, any character for that matter, to be or feel anything else about them other than yet ANOTHER threat. There's nothing wrong with Trunks being played with the way Toyotaro did it, it's actually very creative and fresh to see something like this, but everything else he comes up with just doesn't mesh together well. The story plays everything so safe, that when something interesting does happen with Trunks, it just doesn't fit with the context and by achieving nothing in the end anyway (yet being pushed in the forefront) only draws attention to how... unimportant... everything the character does actually is.

[MegaBossMan]

I've always heavily disliked what Toriyama did with Trunks's role as a character, since so much is built up for him at the start of the Android arc and the viewer quickly comes to realize .... the guy's an absolute novice. Frankly the Android saga really never required Trunks to truly progress, so his role in the story was always pretty much backseat character. The only form of retribution or closure he gets is his battle with the Cell and the Androids after the whole catastrophe blows over, but it's not really an effective form of closure for his character.

Naturally, Toyotaro took that approach for his manga adaptation, so I can't say I was outright pleased with Trunks being as cardboard as ever. I never get a sense that he actually develops, and his appearance as a whole just comes across as Trunks asking people better than him to help him again. He's no different than his Cell arc incarnation and he ends off being no different than his Cell arc incarnation.

Even with the anime's logic fallacies, at the very least I can respect how they handled Trunks. We find him at an emotional and motivational pit, but even when he's sent to rely on Goku and Vegeta, they aren't given center stage and Trunks has to eventually find that he needs to pull his own weight in battle if he ever wants a chance of forming the future that his humanity wants. You even get great scenes like his training with Vegeta, and their final moment together in #67 with him blocking Vegeta's punch, demonstrating the guy's capable enough to pull himself together and take care of any further issues that'll arise. It's that form of closure that he desperately needed to close off his growth that was left unfinished in Z. However, even though the manga provides great moments where he distracts Goku Black to let his past allies escape, he's still criminally underutilized to up the importance of Goku and Vegeta, which is puzzling seeing as Zamasu is his enemy? We don't even get a Goku--Present Zamasu moment like the anime so there's nothing there when Goku fights the Zamasus in the future. I think Trunks's handling is very much akin to how I felt Toriyama would handle his writing, which obviously Toyotaro seeks to emulate and he does a fine job of doing it, but I don't really think Toriyama's writing is infallible.

[SsjCookie]

I don't see how you can be a future trunks fan and be pleased with what toyotaro did with him in the manga. There's no personal protagonist/antagonist dynamic in the manga causing a emotional disconnect. Trunks being a glorified pro wrestling manager in the manga and fighting for no one makes the whole arc feel pointless and empty.

I agree with what lord beerus wrote. My thoughts exactly

Agreed.
The Manga was in it self a big disappointment in comparison with the Anime.
Trunks was side tracked in his own arc in favour of Goku and Vegeta, I mean... don't we see enough of them already?!
Instead of letting him fight for the survival of his "OWN" universe they gave him some lame healing powers and let him be the "Dende" of the show.
A role he really is not suited for.

Future Trunks is my second favorite character in the series as I'm beyond disgusted with his handling in Super. He should have never comeback in the first place. I was most most pissed off because they ruined his world and "hope" ending for flipping PAYCHECK. The dude wasn't necessary at all and they asked Toriyama to make a story with him. Flip that, it's unbelievably disgusting.

That being said I prefer the manga. The Buu saga Trunks story was amazing and brilliant, plus it kept with Trunks theme or coming out on the other side of tragedy and sole "protector"/survivor theme. I don't mind him not doing much because he should have never been there in the first place, plus the idea that Trunks base was somehow equal to a Goku who has trained with Whis and was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks was beyond ludicrous in the anime.

Future Trunks is your second favourite, but you think he's unnecessary?
He's one of the most popular characters of the whole franchise, so it was only a matter of time before they brought him back.
He will be back someday, and I'm glad he will.

[TheMikado]

Agreed.
The Manga was in it self a big disappointment in comparison with the Anime.
Trunks was side tracked in his own arc in favour of Goku and Vegeta, I mean... don't we see enough of them already?!
Instead of letting him fight for the survival of his "OWN" universe they gave him some lame healing powers and let him be the "Dende" of the show.
A role he really is not suited for.

Future Trunks is my second favorite character in the series as I'm beyond disgusted with his handling in Super. He should have never comeback in the first place. I was most most pissed off because they ruined his world and "hope" ending for flipping PAYCHECK. The dude wasn't necessary at all and they asked Toriyama to make a story with him. Flip that, it's unbelievably disgusting.

That being said I prefer the manga. The Buu saga Trunks story was amazing and brilliant, plus it kept with Trunks theme or coming out on the other side of tragedy and sole "protector"/survivor theme. I don't mind him not doing much because he should have never been there in the first place, plus the idea that Trunks base was somehow equal to a Goku who has trained with Whis and was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks was beyond ludicrous in the anime.

Future Trunks is your second favourite, but you think he's unnecessary?
He's one of the most popular characters of the whole franchise, so it was only a matter of time before they brought him back.
He will be back someday, and I'm glad he will.

Yes. he has his own damn story. He's shouldn't be eternally tied to that timeline. He had his Trunks special and also his own Buu arc. Like I said reducing him and crapping on his story for a payday is repulsive and disgusting. He doesn't need to be brought back into this timeline to be relevant when he's the only damn saiyan alive in his.

It's completely and totally unnecessary. Ironically I was completely unhappy with the idea of a time partrol Trunks, but as I said before at least they have a future Trunks without a timeline now so it would make a lot more sense then abandoning his home.

I also fail to see what him being one of my favorite characters has to do se me hating the fact that the only way they want to make him relevant is to tie him to Goku.
The character can and does stand alone without them. That's literally the entire premise of his existence.

[SsjCookie]

Yes. he has his own damn story. He's shouldn't be eternally tied to that timeline. He had his Trunks special and also his own Buu arc. Like I said reducing him and crapping on his story for a payday is repulsive and disgusting. He doesn't need to be brought back into this timeline to be relevant when he's the only damn saiyan alive in his.

So you wouldn't be opposed to the idea of him having his own spinoff series or movie about his own timeline then? (wihout Goku and friends?)
Or would you rather never see and hear about him ever again?

I also fail to see what him being one of my favorite characters has to do se me hating the fact that the only way they want to make him relevant is to tie him to Goku.
The character can and does stand alone without them. That's literally the entire premise of his existence.

Everything is tied to Goku, we should all know that by now.
But I agree, Future Trunks is a character that stands on it's own, and doesn't need to play second fiddle to anyone.
Him having his own tale and lifestory in his OWN timeline would have been interesting to watch.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The fact a lot of folk like his pointless not necessary to the current plot flashback Dabura fight really says it all really. It got to the point Toyotaro didn't give a shit about Trunks he even stopped drawing him properly as per the CDs! Awful-ness all around.

[TheMikado]

Yes. he has his own damn story. He's shouldn't be eternally tied to that timeline. He had his Trunks special and also his own Buu arc. Like I said reducing him and crapping on his story for a payday is repulsive and disgusting. He doesn't need to be brought back into this timeline to be relevant when he's the only damn saiyan alive in his.

So you wouldn't be opposed to the idea of him having his own spinoff series or movie about his own timeline then? (wihout Goku and friends?)
Or would you rather never see and hear about him ever again?

I also fail to see what him being one of my favorite characters has to do se me hating the fact that the only way they want to make him relevant is to tie him to Goku.
The character can and does stand alone without them. That's literally the entire premise of his existence.

Everything is tied to Goku, we should all know that by now.
But I agree, Future Trunks is a character that stands on it's own, and doesn't need to play second fiddle to anyone.
Him having his own tale and lifestory in his OWN timeline would have been interesting to watch.

I'd rather never ever see him again and bask on the knowledge that he successfully saved his future and remains the sole protector of his future ala Cable style.
I'd rather imagine the stuff he's doing to protect his own timeline the seeing the thing he fought the androids for and Cell and Dabura and Black for; disappear in front of his eyes. This story added nothing to Trunks at all. There was no benefit to bringing him back.

The fact a lot of folk like his pointless not necessary to the current plot flashback Dabura fight really says it all really. It got to the point Toyotaro didn't give a shit about Trunks he even stopped drawing him properly as per the CDs! Awful-ness all around.

This was literally the best part of the entire saga. Trunks in Kai garb fighting with Kaioshin and kibito. The fact that it's wasn't even Toriyamas idea to bring him back is the real problem here. I'm tired of the blatant cash grabs when we have rich will formed characters and worlds getting sacrificed on the altar of the dollar.