Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by BWri » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:35 pm

Amir wrote: How is 18 above Piccolo? Piccolo is almost Ultimate Gohan level. 18 hasn't gotten any big power up, she is SSJ level. Piccolo surpassed her in Z, and has been training ever since, 18 has not.
She appeared to have gotten a "power of love" power boost when she fought Ribrianne, possibly breaking past her previous limits. We have seen evidence of her training multiple times in the Buu arc and Super. But Super pretty much implied that she's really really strong now. Taking out that form of Ribrianne is no small feat. Even Goku had some trouble with her butterfly form meaning #18 is bare minimum high tier Cell arc (>Super Perfect Cell). He had to go SSB to smack her away.

Piccolo's my favorite character and even I think that it's possible for #18 to be stronger than him. I put them even to be safe, but I do believe Piccolo has the edge in power. Super's power scale is just all over the place.
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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:11 am

BWri wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Goku
Vegeta
Freeza
#17
Gohan
Boo
Piccolo
Cell
Dabura
#18
Nearly perfect. I'd put Piccolo above Buu, but I'm a Piccolo fanboy and Gohan and #17 might be interchangeable. I hate to bring him up because I thought his power boost was contrived, but where would Tagoma fall on this list?

#18's a question mark for me too. Sometimes she appeared to be nearly as strong as #17 and I think her one shooting Ribrianne does put above Cell tier. I had Piccolo comfortably above her until I saw that. And the elimination order may vaguely imply the power heirarchy.
sintzu wrote:I agree with your list although I'm still waiting for Freeza to surprise us with something that'll put him above Vegeta and on Goku's level.
I always thought he'd get Ultra Instinct. I was hoping that's why he was observing Goku and saving him, so he could learn by observing.
The best feat we saw from Tagoma was him defeating Piccolo, who, at the time, wasn't even as strong as Cell Games Super Saiyans in my eyes. He may be above #18, though, as well as Goten and Trunks, since I personally believe she hasn't improved much from the Boo arc considering how often she gets paired up with Kuririn and base Goku. I'd say the same thing about 17 if he didn't have God tier feats and I could have said Piccolo's only base Gohan tier due to how much screentime he gets paired up with him, but he has better feats; the ToP is just very inconsistent. I don't think Ribrianne's anything special considering base Goku and base Vegeta toyed around with her.

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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by Birusu16 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:38 am

IndieBooToo wrote:
Birusu16 wrote:Not sure why people are saying we don't know what Freeza's capable of when his fight with Goku prior to the ToP showed us exactly what he was capable of, which is a peer to SSB Goku. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not on Goku and Vegeta's current level unless he somehow gets a power-up.
Your logic makes zero sense. All it showed at the very least that he was on par with SSB Goku who he knocked the Blue out of while he himself remained in Golden. You can't even use a short spar with one punch to determine what he can really do in a real fight since it was never said that he used all he had against Goku there since we know Goku didn't either since he had SSBKK. Vegeta fanboys have been going on for months that Vegeta had to be hiding something based on absolutely nothing just so he could somehow be on par with Goku yet Frieza apparently can't be doing the same thing? Lol.
My logic makes perfect sense. He was knocked out just like Goku was. And Whis and Beerus even commented on the fact that they were equals. NOTHING has shown or suggested that Freeza is any stronger than that.

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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by TheDipDap1234 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:55 am

Doctor. wrote:
BWri wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Goku
Vegeta
Freeza
#17
Gohan
Boo
Piccolo
Cell
Dabura
#18
Nearly perfect. I'd put Piccolo above Buu, but I'm a Piccolo fanboy and Gohan and #17 might be interchangeable. I hate to bring him up because I thought his power boost was contrived, but where would Tagoma fall on this list?

#18's a question mark for me too. Sometimes she appeared to be nearly as strong as #17 and I think her one shooting Ribrianne does put above Cell tier. I had Piccolo comfortably above her until I saw that. And the elimination order may vaguely imply the power heirarchy.
sintzu wrote:I agree with your list although I'm still waiting for Freeza to surprise us with something that'll put him above Vegeta and on Goku's level.
I always thought he'd get Ultra Instinct. I was hoping that's why he was observing Goku and saving him, so he could learn by observing.
The best feat we saw from Tagoma was him defeating Piccolo, who, at the time, wasn't even as strong as Cell Games Super Saiyans in my eyes. He may be above #18, though, as well as Goten and Trunks, since I personally believe she hasn't improved much from the Boo arc considering how often she gets paired up with Kuririn and base Goku. I'd say the same thing about 17 if he didn't have God tier feats and I could have said Piccolo's only base Gohan tier due to how much screentime he gets paired up with him, but he has better feats; the ToP is just very inconsistent. I don't think Ribrianne's anything special considering base Goku and base Vegeta toyed around with her.
Ribrianne survived punches from a serious base Vegeta, something that SSJ3 Gotenks couldn't do against a much weaker base Vegeta a couple of arcs ago. Ribrianne also made Goku transform in order to defeat her with her Super form, and her Giant form is most likely stronger than her Super form.

18 has definitely improved.
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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:31 am

TheDipDap1234 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
BWri wrote: Nearly perfect. I'd put Piccolo above Buu, but I'm a Piccolo fanboy and Gohan and #17 might be interchangeable. I hate to bring him up because I thought his power boost was contrived, but where would Tagoma fall on this list?

#18's a question mark for me too. Sometimes she appeared to be nearly as strong as #17 and I think her one shooting Ribrianne does put above Cell tier. I had Piccolo comfortably above her until I saw that. And the elimination order may vaguely imply the power heirarchy.


I always thought he'd get Ultra Instinct. I was hoping that's why he was observing Goku and saving him, so he could learn by observing.
The best feat we saw from Tagoma was him defeating Piccolo, who, at the time, wasn't even as strong as Cell Games Super Saiyans in my eyes. He may be above #18, though, as well as Goten and Trunks, since I personally believe she hasn't improved much from the Boo arc considering how often she gets paired up with Kuririn and base Goku. I'd say the same thing about 17 if he didn't have God tier feats and I could have said Piccolo's only base Gohan tier due to how much screentime he gets paired up with him, but he has better feats; the ToP is just very inconsistent. I don't think Ribrianne's anything special considering base Goku and base Vegeta toyed around with her.
Ribrianne survived punches from a serious base Vegeta, something that SSJ3 Gotenks couldn't do against a much weaker base Vegeta a couple of arcs ago. Ribrianne also made Goku transform in order to defeat with her Super form, and her Giant form is most likely stronger than her Super form.

18 has definitely improved.
I believe the base Saiyans' strength got retconned, so I don't really hold Ribrianne contending with the base Saiyans as an impressive feat to scale for #18. It's more believable to think that she's still somewhere around her Boo arc strength instead of improving hundreds of times in a few hours by training with Kuririn (who, in case #18 is stronger than Gotenks, would scale to her due to their tag team performance and his individual performances against Gohan and Goku).

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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:00 pm

1. Whis
2. Beerus
3. Goku
4. Vegeta
5. #17
6. Gohan
7. Piccolo
8. #18
9. Majin Boo
10. Gotenks

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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by IndieBooToo » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:27 pm

Birusu16 wrote:
IndieBooToo wrote:
Birusu16 wrote:Not sure why people are saying we don't know what Freeza's capable of when his fight with Goku prior to the ToP showed us exactly what he was capable of, which is a peer to SSB Goku. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not on Goku and Vegeta's current level unless he somehow gets a power-up.
Your logic makes zero sense. All it showed at the very least that he was on par with SSB Goku who he knocked the Blue out of while he himself remained in Golden. You can't even use a short spar with one punch to determine what he can really do in a real fight since it was never said that he used all he had against Goku there since we know Goku didn't either since he had SSBKK. Vegeta fanboys have been going on for months that Vegeta had to be hiding something based on absolutely nothing just so he could somehow be on par with Goku yet Frieza apparently can't be doing the same thing? Lol.
My logic makes perfect sense. He was knocked out just like Goku was. And Whis and Beerus even commented on the fact that they were equals. NOTHING has shown or suggested that Freeza is any stronger than that.
Only Beerus commented and he only said that because they knocked each other out. By that logic if they're true equals like he said then Frieza is equal to SSBKKX20 Goku at that time.

Again all you're doing is clinging to one line and quite frankly it's embarrassing.

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Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

Post by Spider-Man » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:09 pm

1- Goku
    2- Vegeta
      3- Frieza
        4- Android 17
          5- Gohan
            6- Piccolo
              7- Android 18
                8- Krillin
                  9- Tien
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                    Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

                    Post by majinwarman » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:57 pm

                    Lord Beerus wrote:1. Whis
                    2. Beerus
                    3. Goku
                    4. Vegeta
                    5. #17
                    6. Gohan
                    7. Piccolo
                    8. #18
                    9. Majin Boo
                    10. Gotenks
                    You think that #18 is stronger than Majin Boo?! I agree with most of your list, but I do want to know why is you put #18 above Boo.
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                    Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

                    Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:31 pm

                    majinwarman wrote:
                    Lord Beerus wrote:1. Whis
                    2. Beerus
                    3. Goku
                    4. Vegeta
                    5. #17
                    6. Gohan
                    7. Piccolo
                    8. #18
                    9. Majin Boo
                    10. Gotenks
                    You think that #18 is stronger than Majin Boo?! I agree with most of your list, but I do want to know why is you put #18 above Boo.
                    Think about it. #18 is stronger Ribrianne, who was strong enough to take on SSJ Vegeta before she gassed out to the point that Base Vegeta could defeat her. And Vegeta is his base form is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. And #18, along with the assistance of #17, was able to take down a form of Ribrianne that was even stronger than that. Majin Boo maxed out at Kid Boo level, and it isn't implied he got much stronger than that. And we all know that SSJ3 Gotenks could ground Kid Boo into the dust.

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                    Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

                    Post by CJStriker_CBR » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:51 pm

                    Lord Beerus wrote:
                    majinwarman wrote:
                    Lord Beerus wrote:1. Whis
                    2. Beerus
                    3. Goku
                    4. Vegeta
                    5. #17
                    6. Gohan
                    7. Piccolo
                    8. #18
                    9. Majin Boo
                    10. Gotenks
                    You think that #18 is stronger than Majin Boo?! I agree with most of your list, but I do want to know why is you put #18 above Boo.
                    Think about it. #18 is stronger Ribrianne, who was strong enough to take on SSJ Vegeta before she gassed out to the point that Base Vegeta could defeat her. And Vegeta is his base form is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. And #18, along with the assistance of #17, was able to take down a form of Ribrianne that was even stronger than that. Majin Boo maxed out at Kid Boo level, and it isn't implied he got much stronger than that. And we all know that SSJ3 Gotenks could ground Kid Boo into the dust.
                    Honestly not taking anything away from Android 18, when I view the fight with her and Ribrianne I feel that their Fight Unlocked hidden power within 18 threw her love of her Family the same way Vegeta recently Unlocked his new Blue form when fighting Jiren and wanting to go passed his limits to keep his promise to Cabba.

                    Ribrianne was Key is Pushing 18 to a new level of power and 18 using her new power based on her love for her Family to, along with 17's help, able to just beat Ribiranne who's level while in Giant form was her Best Level, but I also think Ribrianne was Tired at the same-time too, but still a major Powerhouse.

                    So really 18 IMO became better threw her experience with Ribrianne in 18 using her own Power-of-Love :wink:, to become Stronger then she was before at the start of the ToP. But also Ribrianne is No Less a Major Force either, both ladies are on a High level of power and should not be sneezed away so easy, either of them.

                    Just cause a fighter is not Goku, Vegeta or Jiren at 100% does not make their showings of power less impressive or less powerful in their own rights, these levels are still CRAZY High! 8)

                    Also Yes, Ribrianne is on the same level of at least SSJ-Vegeta and that is not small level either. I still think she is more powerful then that too, honestly getting in SSJ-2 Ranges with Super and Giant Forms when she is not tired out for non-stop fighting.

                    It also Took a Sneak Hit from BLUE Goku to take down Super-Ribiranne and Ribiranne took NO Damage from that Attack, she was up and walking again right after, so Their is Still More to Ribrianne then I think Many overlook.

                    But I expect Ribrianne to get strong if her story goes on from here to, no character is fixed in their levels ever.
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                    Re: Top 10 strongest Universe 7 fighters

                    Post by majinwarman » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:55 am

                    CJStriker_CBR wrote:
                    Lord Beerus wrote:
                    majinwarman wrote: You think that #18 is stronger than Majin Boo?! I agree with most of your list, but I do want to know why is you put #18 above Boo.
                    Think about it. #18 is stronger Ribrianne, who was strong enough to take on SSJ Vegeta before she gassed out to the point that Base Vegeta could defeat her. And Vegeta is his base form is stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks. And #18, along with the assistance of #17, was able to take down a form of Ribrianne that was even stronger than that. Majin Boo maxed out at Kid Boo level, and it isn't implied he got much stronger than that. And we all know that SSJ3 Gotenks could ground Kid Boo into the dust.
                    Honestly not taking anything away from Android 18, when I view the fight with her and Ribrianne I feel that their Fight Unlocked hidden power within 18 threw her love of her Family the same way Vegeta recently Unlocked his new Blue form when fighting Jiren and wanting to go passed his limits to keep his promise to Cabba.

                    Ribrianne was Key is Pushing 18 to a new level of power and 18 using her new power based on her love for her Family to, along with 17's help, able to just beat Ribiranne who's level while in Giant form was her Best Level, but I also think Ribrianne was Tired at the same-time too, but still a major Powerhouse.

                    So really 18 IMO became better threw her experience with Ribrianne in 18 using her own Power-of-Love :wink:, to become Stronger then she was before at the start of the ToP. But also Ribrianne is No Less a Major Force either, both ladies are on a High level of power and should not be sneezed away so easy, either of them.

                    Just cause a fighter is not Goku, Vegeta or Jiren at 100% does not make their showings of power less impressive or less powerful in their own rights, these levels are still CRAZY High! 8)

                    Also Yes, Ribrianne is on the same level of at least SSJ-Vegeta and that is not small level either. I still think she is more powerful then that too, honestly getting in SSJ-2 Ranges with Super and Giant Forms when she is not tired out for non-stop fighting.

                    It also Took a Sneak Hit from BLUE Goku to take down Super-Ribiranne and Ribiranne took NO Damage from that Attack, she was up and walking again right after, so Their is Still More to Ribrianne then I think Many overlook.

                    But I expect Ribrianne to get strong if her story goes on from here to, no character is fixed in their levels ever.
                    I can respect your opinion about Ribrianne's strength.
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