Would A Potara Fusion Of Two Timeline's Daishinkan Survive Zeno's Erasure Of All 12 Universes?

[theherodjl]

Could you show a clear source that states that? Was such a thing outright stated in the anime or the manga? Truly, if that were the case, i am quite fascinated! I thought, in my insolence, that i knew everything about Zamasu, but it seems i still have much to learn.

Although i am quite confused by the implications of this then. In the manga, Beerus states Hakai won't work on Future Zamasu because he is immortal. Despite its name, 'Destruction', Hakai is actually quite similiar to Zeno's 'Erase' technique; because it doesn't just disintegrate the physical body, but effectively erases the soul from existence. Beings destroyed by the Hakai technique won't go to the Otherworld, they will simply cease to exist. As you can see, they are effectively erased from existence. Yet Beerus stated the Hakai won't work on Future Zamasu? Even though, supposedly, he wished immortality only from destruction, not from erasure?

The Super Dragon Balls were shattered by Black and Zamasu. Zeno's power reversed the effects of the Super Dragon Balls. We can speculate that the creator of the Super Dragon Balls, the Dragon-God Zalama, might be the true apex of power in the world of Gods (although that's just a fan-theory, mind you, Zalama is barely mentioned in Super); but there is nothing in the canon material that leads me to believe the Super Dragon Balls are so powerful, so resistant, and so divine that are even above Zeno's possibilities. Heck, if the Super Dragon Balls were so ominous and mighty as you depict them, then they wouldn't even need a cooldown of one year between each wish, they could just grant wishes constantly.

Not sure about the anime but I looked in the manga briefly and the first time the Super DBs are stated to grant any wish is Gowasu stating that they could while he & Zamasu watched Godtube, leading Zamasu to also believe that they may grant any wish. At no point is this corrected as being hearsay of the Super DBs abilities or an exaggeration, afterwards everyone else is convinced they may grant any wish which is why Daishinkan offers them up as a prize and Zeno approves of.

Beerus' Hakai ability won't work on Future Zamasu because his wish guarantees he can't die, permanently halting the process of death then destruction of the soul. Zeno's ability on the other hand just erases the entire timeline regardless and all objects within it. Its an oversight on Zamasu's part in that he never thought he would ever meet Zeno or incur his wrath, he didn't make anymore wishes because of his arrogance on the current scale. It ended up being his undoing in more ways than one.

The Super DBs were not shattered by Black & Zamasu but were wished to destroy themselves so that they would cease to exist, a precaution to ensure that no one else could use them to undo the zero mortals plan.
Since they are believed to grant any wish and nothing thus far says they have a clear of subtle limitation in what the wish might be then they may as well be justified in their description, that could change in the future however.
The nature of the "cool down" of the Super DBs is not necessarily a limitation in their power but how they were simply designed by Zalama. Its sort of similar in how the Heart Of The Infinite from Marvel is a cosmic artifact that is hidden somewhere in existence and may grant the user power on par with TOAA. Unless it is wielded though then its just another object with no purpose except to prove that it exists, much like the Super DBs.

And considering you ARE dead the moment you cease to exist that is nonsense. You don't live anymore, your biological life and your psychological life is over.

Being alive & dead is not the same thing in DB though. Death is the process of the soul leaving the living world and ascending to the afterlife as a rule, the living on the other hand can go and stay anywhere they want until they die.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I thought that once Zamasu fused with Black his immortality was compromised.

[Cetra]

Being alive & dead is not the same thing in DB though. Death is the process of the soul leaving the living world and ascending to the afterlife as a rule, the living on the other hand can go and stay anywhere they want until they die.

Being alive and being dead is never the same thing and it does not matter if it is Dragon Ball because even in other cultures one sees "death" first as the physical end while "really everything being gone" as "ultimately dying". And believe it or not, we are not the body. So biological death is not our death in the first place. What we are dies the moment our consciousness is gone forever because that is our existential essence (granted though this might happen the moment our brain dies, that is the great mystery no one actually knows if we pass on). If this happens, it is actual death. And the entire point of Zamasu's character is that as narcisisstic as he is, he does not want to be gone. There is no point in him "not wanting his body to be destroyed but allowing true death of himself". As a matter of fact there is already an earlier error in the arc considering that but I do not want to go that route right now.

By the way, I hope you did not misunderstand my comment as "if you die you cease to exist". The sentence was meant like "if you cease to exist you also die".

[SupremeKai25]

The Super DBs were not shattered by Black & Zamasu but were wished to destroy themselves so that they would cease to exist

Black and Zamasu state that they destroyed the Super Dragon Balls after they had outlived their usefulness. They didn't say 'We jumped ahead of one year then asked the Super Dragons Balls to initiate a plan of self-destruction'.

I thought that once Zamasu fused with Black his immortality was compromised.

In the anime, the immortality of his body was compromised, as half of it was immortal and half of it wasn't. But his soul was immortal. Goku and co. exploited the unstable balance between Fused Zamasu's semi-mortal body and fully-immortal soul to win. But when Fused Zamasu's body had been obliterated, only the immortal soul was left. And it latched onto the Universe to merge with the very fabric of reality.

Let's not take the manga into the equation, where Fused Zamasu's body was immortal too, not just his soul. But sadly manga Fused Zamasu, unlike in the anime, had a time-limit because he had never been promoted to an official Supreme Kai.