Budokai 3 Confirmation

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:52 pm

Xyex wrote:You'd level up as you played and SSJ3 Goku post Kid Buu would be able to beat the snot out of, say, an un-trained Raditz with, like, one punch.

Exactly what I was thinking, then the matches would actually resemble the show more accurately. I still remember playing Budokai 1 and being stunned when I lost to Raditz as a SSJ2 Gohan, when common sence dictates that the only thing Raditz would accomplish by that is to break his hand on Gohans face.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:40 pm

Yeah, but fighting games do have to have balance. It may not feel 'right' losing to Raditz as SSJ2 Gohan but it would be worse to play as Raditz and not be able to hurt SSJ2 Gohan and therefore be un-able to win...

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:58 pm

Exactly. All fighting games have characters slightly better or worse than others, no matter how much they try and balance things, but if they made everyone in Budokai accurate to the show, then everyone would be Mystic Gohan or SSJ III Goku, and everyone else would be redundent.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:45 pm

Or you do an RPG style system where everyone can get stronger through use. Babidi's Space Ship-esque mini-games and World Tourney's would be used to 'level up' to make characters stronger. For example, in time Radditz could go Super Saiya-jin. Everyone starts at the same point but their power is determined by how much you train each character, each 'stat', and each move.

On something of an off-topic note. I forgot how idiotic (<--- being VERY polite here) a lot of the people on the Atari Fourms are! They're driving me up the wall. So far the only response I've got to posting the link to the Guide (and the two pages Ryu found) and asking Tonkatsu if there's any new info is a buch of 'N00bs'

Ryu · Post by **Ryu** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:58 am

It a good thing you didn't go to IGN or GameFaqs then, both are fill with a lot of foolish people who flame like there is no tomorrow. And the kindest word they can say is the word noob.

Nyogo · Post by **Nyogo** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:36 pm

First look at what I bet is the pre-alpha version of Budokai 3.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:58 pm

COOLER!

They'd better have him in the B3, he's the only one I felt upset about not getting here while they had him in Japan.

Of course, that image could be fake, unless you found it in a real magazine and scanned it yourself.

EDIT: Oh, wait, is that Brolly too? Now that would be sweet. Hope that's a real ad.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:43 pm

If it is fake, from which games were they cropped from? I think it's real.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:15 pm

In the top left image Brolly looks massive compared to Goku, I know he's a big guy but he's about the size of an Oozaru there. The top right image could easily be just a well made drawing. The two bottom could be drawings as well, or edits of Jap B2 screens.

Maybe Saiya could tell us what's being said in the few places we see text?

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:15 pm

Can you get a larger version of that image? Ze monkey of death could translate it if she could read the furigana.

EDIT: Never mind, she was able to read some of it. It seems to be a teaser ad. The bit says that there'll be more information next time.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:29 pm

Nyogo wrote:First look at what I bet is the pre-alpha version of Budokai 3.

Hm...looks convincing enough, but if I had to guess I would say that's from the japanese release of Budokai 2, not 3. I can only hope the gamecube release of Budokai 2 will feature Coola. Kuriza, and hopefully Broli

EDIT: Only now that I have squarely planted my foot in my mouth do I notice the giant "Z3" at the center of the ad. So I retract my earlier assumption, Budokai 3 w00t!

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:31 pm

I've seen the site that came from, it's the only one they have. Best you'll get is the zoom function of paint or something.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:51 pm

It's been a while so I'm making a new post.

There's a tiny blurb here about B3 but I don't even have the Jap (or was it chinese?) font thingies on my computer to read it.

Anyone know what it's saying?

DEM wrote: EDIT: Only now that I have squarely planted my foot in my mouth do I notice the giant "Z3" at the center of the ad. So I retract my earlier assumption, Budokai 3 w00t!

Heh. I missed that big Z3 at first too.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:48 pm

I always felt that if they put Chi Chi in a Budokai game, that it would be funny if they gave her an "angry wife attack". Just picture it.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:27 pm

Or how about a "Study Mother Attack"? She could send thick textbooks flying at her opponents and yell to them, "You should be studying, not here wasting your time fighting! Scholars are important! Don't be a musclehead!"

Alias · Post by **Alias** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:54 am

I'll just be happy if they give the characters the ability to jump, instead of having to inch back and forth across the screen like idiots. That was the one thing that killed the game for me when I bought it.

I know I'm dreaming, but I wish that they'd have different forms of each character to choose from. The characters change in appearance throughout the series, so the ability to choose between one form or another would be nice. I like Yamucha, but I don't like the way he looks in the Cell and Buu sagas. If he looked the way he did when he first appeared in the series, then he'd be perfect. Freeza saga Vegeta looked so much better than the over-muscled Cell saga Vegeta, and I've always preferred late Piccolo saga Goku over his older and bigger Z self. I know they won't include the original DB series characters at all, but even if they just did it for just the Z characters...

Gotta have Chichi in the game. It just wouldn't be as fun without her. ^_^

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 12:34 pm

I don't really care about the jumping that much really. What I'm hoping for is that B3 can use the B2 save data for bonus stuff. I thought of that the other day, then realized that my save was screwed up because I used the cheat and I was forever stuck at 99% completion. So, I deleted my first run and I'm going through again, this time without the code, to get 100% completion. So yeah, they had better make some bonus stuff that's WORTH playing through Dragon World 30+ times!

Ryu · Post by **Ryu** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 2:35 pm

How long were you stuck at 99%? I used that cheat and I did have that problem, but I simply went in and out of the shop and then perform the cheat and it worked.

Jumping doesn't really bother me either, but what I do hope is that they improve the flying mode for the next game and get rid of the hidden floor in the air. Maybe they should copy the flying system from the Zone of The Enders game?

Also improve the ki battles (e.g. Kamehameha battle), they were pretty much non-existence. And I know it wouldn't happen but I would like it if Goku could perform the Ryu-Ken in the game, such a cool move.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:18 pm

I did that several times, the code while at 99%. Then I decided to get a complete capsule list off the net and check that list to every capsule I had. I had all of them, I wasn't missing a thing. I've heard of this happening to other people, a glitch caused by the code that traps them at 99%. It's not to big a deal, at least I'll have plenty of practice in for Budokai 3

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:42 pm

Xyex wrote:I did that several times, the code while at 99%. Then I decided to get a complete capsule list off the net and check that list to every capsule I had. I had all of them, I wasn't missing a thing. I've heard of this happening to other people, a glitch caused by the code that traps them at 99%. It's not to big a deal, at least I'll have plenty of practice in for Budokai 3

I had the same trouble with the code in my game. I think you had to press the buttons a certain way before it moved on. Took me nearly a day getting past 99%.

We're all dirty cheater, aren't we?