Could Vegeta be a descendant of Yamoshi?

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Re: Could Vegeta be a descendant of Yamoshi?

Post by Brettjr25 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:29 pm

No, I don't think so. From my understanding (even pre-yamoshi stuff) there was a war between the "evil" saiyans and "good" ones. Eventually the good ones lost and the evil ones won and ruled the planet. Vegeta being the prince of the planet and son of the ruler would be descendant of the evil ones.

I'm not sure how a descendant of the pure side would end up the ruler when they lost. The whole definition of a hierarchy is that the bloodline inherits the power. Unless they didnt create one until the war with the tuffles and the first King was just the most powerful saiyan at the time.

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Re: Could Vegeta be a descendant of Yamoshi?

Post by Raphael_Z » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:56 pm

Brettjr25 wrote:No, I don't think so. From my understanding (even pre-yamoshi stuff) there was a war between the "evil" saiyans and "good" ones. Eventually the good ones lost and the evil ones won and ruled the planet. Vegeta being the prince of the planet and son of the ruler would be descendant of the evil ones.

I'm not sure how a descendant of the pure side would end up the ruler when they lost. The whole definition of a hierarchy is that the bloodline inherits the power. Unless they didnt create one until the war with the tuffles and the first King was just the most powerful saiyan at the time.
Was the Saiyan-Tuffle conflict in the manga? IIRC it was just an anime invention, no?

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Re: Could Vegeta be a descendant of Yamoshi?

Post by Brettjr25 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:45 am

Raphael_Z wrote:
Brettjr25 wrote:No, I don't think so. From my understanding (even pre-yamoshi stuff) there was a war between the "evil" saiyans and "good" ones. Eventually the good ones lost and the evil ones won and ruled the planet. Vegeta being the prince of the planet and son of the ruler would be descendant of the evil ones.

I'm not sure how a descendant of the pure side would end up the ruler when they lost. The whole definition of a hierarchy is that the bloodline inherits the power. Unless they didnt create one until the war with the tuffles and the first King was just the most powerful saiyan at the time.
Was the Saiyan-Tuffle conflict in the manga? IIRC it was just an anime invention, no?
I dont recall but I know Toriyama talked about them and elaborated their back story in an interview making them canon more or less.

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Re: Could Vegeta be a descendant of Yamoshi?

Post by TheOtherDude » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:33 pm

Kanious wrote:Isn't Vegeta's "royal blood" something new? Like Vegeta's planet being governed by King Vegeta something recently? [has Vegeta's grandfather been a king?]

About the question, maybe... but i don't think the silhouette means anything
No. If anything, they mentioned his “royal blood” a lot more often back in Z and toned it down in Super.

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