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ABED wrote:I don't think we heard enough of Clinkenbeard to get a good enough reading of how good she could've been.
Eh she had a 40ish minute movie. I feel like that’s sufficient enough to gage her performance. I wasn’t a fan
Henderson wasn't restrained and as far as English speaking young, she's by far the best.
Maybe restrained wasn’t the right word. I can’t put my finger on it but something about her performance as Goku didn’t work for me. Love her Gohan though.
I will say Henderson came the closest of the three to be able to do both Goku and Gohan.
Nadolny did not have the right tone. Her cadence was unnatural and grating. The Woody the Woodpecker/Krusty laugh just made things worse.
Eh I just feel the rougher voice works better for Goku than it did Gohan. Not that it was a particularly good performance.
I thought she was fine and was bound to get better.
How does a rougher voice sound better? I don't hear rough from Nozawa.
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Without her actually coming back, there's no way of knowing for sure if she would have improved or not. My belief is that she probably would have.
Without naming names, I think even the most poorly-acted and miscast voice actors in FUNimation's dub have improved over time. Have they improved enough? In some cases, more than enough, and in some cases...not really. However, I can't think of a single voice actor (that's still around) with a performance that is interchangeable, quality-wise, with the performance they gave when they first started out. That question extends to Nadolny: I think she probably would have improved, but would she have have improved enough? We'll never know.
I always thought she sounded like a chainsmoker. Like if Gohan was voiced by Lunchlady Doris. Her Goku is better than her Gohan but it's still not good!
People freaking love her though. I watched one of those "voice comparison" videos for Gohan on Youtube and all of the top comments were saying that Nadolny was the best one. Each of those comments had hundreds of upvotes too. Nostalgia is fucking unreal sometimes.
She could have improved, all the dub voices have improved but most of them still aren't good. The biggest problem with the dub cast IMO is the legacy actors who have been around since day 1. They've been around for like 20 years at this point and the best thing I can say about them is "they're improved" or "they're OK." Many of the newer voices are fine though.
TheBigBoy wrote:I always thought she sounded like a chainsmoker. Like if Gohan was voiced by Lunchlady Doris. Her Goku is better than her Gohan but it's still not good!
People freaking love her though. I watched one of those "voice comparison" videos for Gohan on Youtube and all of the top comments were saying that Nadolny was the best one. Each of those comments had hundreds of upvotes too. Nostalgia is fucking unreal sometimes.
She could have improved, all the dub voices have improved but most of them still aren't good. The biggest problem with the dub cast IMO is the legacy actors who have been around since day 1. They've been around for like 20 years at this point and the best thing I can say about them is "they're improved" or "they're OK." Many of the newer voices are fine though.
Out of curiosity, where’s the cutoff for being considered a legacy actor, in your opinion? Technically, if you want to go by which actors have been with FUNimation since they did their very first in-house dub, the only ones still working today are Mike McFarland, Chris Sabat, Brad Jackson and Laurie Steele.
I'm mainly talking about the people who are still around from "Season 3" of the DBZ dub. Mainly Sabat, Schemmel etc...though I don't have a hard and fast cutoff. I think they are definitely the weakest parts of the dub cast. They also happen to be the most beloved voices by the dub fans, so what do I know?
TheBigBoy wrote:I'm mainly talking about the people who are still around from "Season 3" of the DBZ dub. Mainly Sabat, Schemmel etc...though I don't have a hard and fast cutoff. I think they are definitely the weakest parts of the dub cast. They also happen to be the most beloved voices by the dub fans, so what do I know?
In Sabat’s case, he’s a major figure at FUNimation, as he not only has been doing voices for them for 20 years, but he’s also a voice director for the company who happens to be a big fan of Dragon Ball as a whole, so it’s no surprise that he’s still around.
She never really got any better in the time she was voicing Gohan... which was over 10 years. A good script can't hide a sub-par actor/actress.
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Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I always liked her Gohan and felt she was noticeably much better during the re-dub. I remember the last episode she ever re-dubbed was the one where Krillin gets impaled by Frieza's horn, where she did an awesome job with Gohan's reaction at the end. Comparing the re-dub of that scene to her original performance it's clear she got considerably better.
I also like her Kid Goku and appreciate how she differentiated the GT version of him from the DB version to reflect his more mature character. In DB she voices him as cheerful and very naive while in GT she gives him a more mature tone to reflect the fact that he's an adult in a kids body.
