Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?

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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?

Post by ruler9871 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:17 pm

People are overreacting. She was past the age of consent and the interaction between the two was consensual. Nothing questionable happened.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:20 pm

I think its just WittyUsername.

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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?

Post by WittyUsername » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:26 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I think its just WittyUsername.
I wasn’t overreacting. I didn’t call Marsters a rapist or anything like that. I was just pointing out that there are a couple of sketchy things about him.

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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?

Post by Fionordequester » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:05 pm

WittyUsername wrote:I wasn’t overreacting. I didn’t call Marsters a rapist or anything like that. I was just pointing out that there are a couple of sketchy things about him.
Let's put it this way; I used to work Loss Prevention at Lowe's. My literal job was to catch thieves in the act, and report what I saw to my managers, so they could shake 'em up as they tried to walk out of the story (not physically of course; though they never did tell me what EXACTLY they would do).

And over those years...I have had a looooot of false alarms. There were, of course, folks that tended to have the telltale signs. Arrogant young teenagers who thought they could get away with anything, people who came in with three different backpacks on a cart, people who tried WAY too hard to "turn on the charm", those who came in looking for "a tool for their father" (with absolutely no specifying further beyond that), crack addicts whose movements were jittery and uncoordinated, those who showed a strange curiosity in how exactly our security measures worked...lots of strange people.

But, something like 80% of the people I reported were false alarms. Now, the ones that DID end up stealing stuff tended to fall into the category of folks I listed above (especially the "multiple backpack" guys)...but by and large, most folks were legit.

So, you need to be very careful when all you have to go on is "this guy's a little weird". Especially when we're already dealing with a media firestorm on account of Vic Mignogna; who probably IS guilty.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?

Post by Dr. Casey » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:58 am

WittyUsername wrote:
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:I think its just WittyUsername.
I wasn’t overreacting. I didn’t call Marsters a rapist or anything like that. I was just pointing out that there are a couple of sketchy things about him.
Eh... I don't know. I appreciate that you're trying to be proportional in your reaction, but I don't really think it's fair to bring any amount of negative attention to someone for doing something that's perfectly legal with another consenting adult. Thinking back to when I was 18 (an age I reached the August of 2005), I don't think there would have been anything wrong with me dating someone in their 30s or 40s. I personally wouldn't have been interested in that, but at 18 I think I was mentally similar enough to my present day, undeniably adult self to be with anyone of any age and that there wouldn't have been a huge disparity of power or anything particularly wrong or perverse about it at all (and I was probably somewhat less mentally developed than the average 18 year old in some respects given my brain damage, learning disorders, and the social isolation those things brought about). I can understand why someone might feel the way you do as a kneejerk reaction, but there's another part of me that goes "What he did was perfectly legal and, by almost any account, moral; if this is the worst thing he's ever done, the only fair thing to do is give him a 100 percent free pass and let it go."
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