Dragon Ball Z "Composer" Shuky Levy accused of attempted murder by Sarah Brown

[Zestanor]

Oh. I didn’t even think Shuki Levy was a real person lol. It doesn’t sound like a real name to be for some reason. I assumed it was a pseudonym for Wasserman.

[JulieYBM]

well sexually assault has also just been more of a controversial topic politically over the past decade, so naturally the vic stuff attracted a lot of people who automatically sided with vic to own the sjw's or whatever. attempted murder is uh, yeah, not a hot topic, everyone knows it's bad and you aren't gonna see a lot of people try and defend it.

but yeah this is legit like crazy, what the fuck dude.

It sure says something about our society when it's more acceptable to sexually assault women than it is to murder someone.

[Metalwario64]

It's crazy how the people behind the English dub for Dragon Ball often turned out to be such disturbed individuals.

First we have Bruce Falconer the credit-stealing hack.

Then we have Sean Schemmel and his hilariously fragile ego.

Vic Mignogna and his fiendish ways.

Now the composer for the Ocean dub is supposedly an attempted murderer?!

What's next... Christopher Sabat being the leader of a sex cult?

Yeah, as soon as I saw this thread, I wondered what the fuck was going on and why so many people I never knew to have any really problems (well, I'd long heard the rumors of Vic even years ago) are turning out to be absolutely insane and terrible lately.

[MasenkoHA]

well sexually assault has also just been more of a controversial topic politically over the past decade, so naturally the vic stuff attracted a lot of people who automatically sided with vic to own the sjw's or whatever. attempted murder is uh, yeah, not a hot topic, everyone knows it's bad and you aren't gonna see a lot of people try and defend it.

but yeah this is legit like crazy, what the fuck dude.

It sure says something about our society when it's more acceptable to sexually assault women than it is to murder someone.

I’m against sexual assault as much as the next person and the thought of Dick Lasagna getting fired for being creepy after getting away with it for years gets me arousedbut murder is just objectively worse than Icky Vicky’s unwanted touching and hair sniffing.

[JulieYBM]

well sexually assault has also just been more of a controversial topic politically over the past decade, so naturally the vic stuff attracted a lot of people who automatically sided with vic to own the sjw's or whatever. attempted murder is uh, yeah, not a hot topic, everyone knows it's bad and you aren't gonna see a lot of people try and defend it.

but yeah this is legit like crazy, what the fuck dude.

It sure says something about our society when it's more acceptable to sexually assault women than it is to murder someone.

I’m against sexual assault as much as the next person and the thought of Dick Lasagna getting fired for being creepy after getting away with it for years gets me arousedbut murder is just objectively worse than Icky Vicky’s unwanted touching and hair sniffing.

If we are going tongondown that route then the idea of comparing which is worse is grounds I refuse to legitimately debate in the first place.

[ABED]

If we are going tongondown that route then the idea of comparing which is worse is grounds I refuse to legitimately debate in the first place.

Good, because there is no debate. As bad as being sexually assaulted is, murder is worse.

[JulieYBM]

If we are going tongondown that route then the idea of comparing which is worse is grounds I refuse to legitimately debate in the first place.

Good, because there is no debate. As bad as being sexually assaulted is, murder is worse.

Thanks, always wanted abuse to be downplayed because others want to 'win' a debate.

Signed, a victim of abuse.

[ABED]

No one is downplaying absue, but murder is about the most awful thing there is. With abuse, as tragic as it is, there's the opportunity to heal. I didn't win anything because there is no debating this. You're flat out wrong. And if you don't want to discuss this issue, why bring something like that up?

It sure says something about our society when it's more acceptable to sexually assault women than it is to murder someone.

The phrasing alone is weird. What does this mean?

Sorry you suffered abuse. I'm sincere when I write this. I don't want you to think I'm sending you empty platitudes.

[Valerius Dover]

People can come back from abuse, but not from the dead. It goes without saying that murder is worse.

[MyVisionity]

The idea that murder is worse than sexual assault is definitely debatable.

[ABED]

The idea that murder is worse than sexual assault is definitely debatable.

Care to make an argument as to how?

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

The idea that murder is worse than sexual assault is definitely debatable.

I though murder was already said to be hands down the absolute worst of all criminal acts, exactly how is it debatable as to which is worse than the other?

[KBABZ]

I though murder was already said to be hands down the absolute worst of all criminal acts, exactly how is it debatable as to which is worse than the other?

I think the debate falls under "fate worse than death". For example, being tortured for weeks is arguably much more cruel and damaging than killing someone outright. That's why they sometimes call it "putting them out of their misery".

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

I though murder was already said to be hands down the absolute worst of all criminal acts, exactly how is it debatable as to which is worse than the other?

I think the debate falls under "fate worse than death". For example, being tortured for weeks is arguably much more cruel and damaging than killing someone outright. That's why they sometimes call it "putting them out of their misery".

Yeah, it makes sense when you think about it in those terms. So in that regard sexual assault/rape.etc is worse than murder.

[MyVisionity]

It might be a bit irresponsible of me to discuss the consequences of sexual assault versus the consequences of murder, because you never know who might be reading, but I'm sure there are an endless number of questions that a person affected might have.

The idea that murder is worse than sexual assault is definitely debatable.

Debatable? I though murder was already established to literally be the worst of all criminal acts, just how is it debatable as to which is worse than the other????

Already established? And by whom? I'm no legal expert, but I imagine many defense attorneys would argue their hardest for the sake of their clients against the notion that murder is the worst crime possible. And that's only the law, not morality.

Murder, death, sexual assault, abuse... these are all heavy topics that may not be as simple as they appear. I'm not sure if anyone could make a truly definitive objective judgement on these issues.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

It might be a bit irresponsible of me to discuss the consequences of sexual assault versus the consequences of murder, because you never know who might be reading, but I'm sure there are an endless number of questions that a person affected might have.

The idea that murder is worse than sexual assault is definitely debatable.

Debatable? I though murder was already established to literally be the worst of all criminal acts, just how is it debatable as to which is worse than the other????

Already established? And by whom? I'm no legal expert, but I imagine many defense attorneys would argue their hardest for the sake of their clients against the notion that murder is the worst crime possible. And that's only the law, not morality.

Murder, death, sexual assault, abuse... these are all heavy topics that may not be as simple as they appear. I'm not sure if anyone could make a truly definitive objective judgement on these issues.

Um ok??? Well then i apparently must not know what i'm talking about or something...I don't know how i could possibly answer that question of whom or make a definitive judgement as i'm not a legal scholar either.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Legally, the worst crime possible (at least in the US) is treason.

And I mean real treason, not 'X politician said/did something I don't like'.

[MasenkoHA]

The idea that murder is worse than sexual assault is definitely debatable.

I would certainly argue that sexual assault CAN be worse than murder. Such as people who endure years of sexual abuse from caregivers/partners/etc but if we’re talking strictly murder or attempted murder and compared to what Mignogna did? (Which seemed to be what started this debate) I’m sorry but no murder or attempted murder is way worse than Mignogna’s actions which are gross creepy and deplorable and he deserved his termination and to be barred from cons but I wouldn’t say prison sentence.

[Fionordequester]

Keep in mind, JulieYBM has certainly suffered abuse of some sort in the past. You're getting into some dangerous waters, when you start poking around a person's traumas (intentionally or not). I learned that the hard way from another person, just last week.

Be careful. Listening may be what's needed, here.

[ABED]

What makes you think we aren't? I also feel like people are assuming we don't have experience with this issue simply because we don't agree.