State of the Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z Broadcast Audio?

[Damned]

So, does anyone know if this is true regarding GT's audio?

Actually ALL AIRINGS on tv in Japan are lossy, so no matter what you’ll do with tv airings, you’ll get lossy tracks.
It’s like when you record your tv yourself, the audios is allways around 128-192kbps so except if you have an earlier analog recordings, you’ll not get better from actual rerun

about audio quality here is the comparison 1 is the better one going until the worst :1 analog airings from back in time 2 bs fuji (slightly better than fuji two but you’ll not probably see any differrence) 3 fuji two digital 4 tokyo mx (lower bitrates) 5 animax

about episodes 1-4 they are produced in MONO , you can anyway find source for thoses ones on chinese dvd (224kbps) and taiwanese dvd (192kbps if i remember correctly) i didn’t checked if they are better than bs fuji ones but they lack nep , later episodes are mono tracks too but i don’t know if it’s mixed channel or one channel duplicate, anyway stereo are better

Also, is it true the NEP on episode 41 for modern broadcasts uses optical audio, and only the original Animax run used the D2 tape audio? Are the current broadcasts of GT's audio for episode 1-4 two channel mono?

[GhostEmperorX]

Unless Toei becomes as competent at material preservation as peer studios (Tsuburaya, Pierrot, Sunrise, Gainax, etc), you’re not getting the BA on an official release.

[Planetnamek]

Sorry to hear that the official sides had no interest in the audio, but i'm at the very least glad the full broadcast audio is finally out in the wild. Sorry you had to go through all that, but I thank you for your efforts.

[ArmenianPepsi]

Sorry to hear that the official sides had no interest in the audio, but i'm at the very least glad the full broadcast audio is finally out in the wild. Sorry you had to go through all that, but I thank you for your efforts.

Well if I remember right, isnt AB in France is going to do their own release of Dragon Ball on Blu Ray? Even though it's unlikely, there is still the slimmest hope that fans could get in contact with them to see if they would be interested in the broadcast audio. You never know what could happen.

Here we go, found the article. - https://dragonballsuper-france.fr/integ ... -ab-video/

[Planetnamek]

Sorry to hear that the official sides had no interest in the audio, but i'm at the very least glad the full broadcast audio is finally out in the wild. Sorry you had to go through all that, but I thank you for your efforts.

Well if I remember right, isnt AB in France is going to do their own release of Dragon Ball on Blu Ray? Even though it's unlikely, there is still the slimmest hope that fans could get in contact with them to see if they would be interested in the broadcast audio. You never know what could happen.

Here we go, found the article. - https://dragonballsuper-france.fr/integ ... -ab-video/

Interesting, it would be nice if at least one country got the proper original version of the show.

[Aim]

The state of the broadcast audio is quite simple.

Dragon Ball episode 1-7, 12, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 36, 37, 40, 41, 47, 48, and 153 have been recovered.
All of DBZ have been recovered, including multiple sources for several episodes.
GT was never missing, but went unused on official releases, though captures from modern Japanese TV airings have been recovered. (In stereo where applicable; Toei switched to stereo mixing starting from episode 5)

All of this material has been sent along to Chris Sabat of Funimation as it was gathered, who said at the outset that he'd do everything in his power to get it used on an official release. The next official release to happen after he said this was the 30th anniversary set, where none of it was used, so it looks like Funimation aren't using it.
Toei are difficult to contact, but people in Japan and America have tried reaching out to them about the broadcast audio, but the reps who respond to public emails are not interested, and have simply turned any offers away. Similarly, other foreign distributors such as the French distributor have turned away offers for this material (I believe the French distributor was mainly concerned by the fact that these are inherently pirate recordings).

Almost all of this material is publicly available because various people leaked this stuff, and since this stuff leaked only a short time after Sabat was sent the first batch, and he outright said it killed most of his enthusiasm, about this, it's possible the leaks are why we haven't seen any of this go on official releases.
But on the plus side, the secondary sources of all the Z episodes (as well as a complete copy of #218) were only made available when they were leaked publicly a while ago by someone who had previously held onto all their material (though they claim to have held back a significant portion of other broadcast material).

Hasn't the entire of early Dragon Ball been recovered? I'm sure it has been, someone was hoarding it for like 10 years.

[MCDaveG]

Maybe it has to do not only with rights, but the mindset of Japanese companies as well. They really tend to be, understandably so, in charge of things and do not let other parties to interfere with their IPs. Even with quality products.
I remember years and years ago, there were bunch of friends developing Saint Seiya RPG, sent it to Bandai in Japan for approval and if anyone will be interested and they were turned off right away, that if Bandai will be developing a Saint Seiya game, the will do it solely themselves and won't cooperate with any third party.

So I can imagine that they are not caring about superior broadcast recordings, because it is not their own original output and something in their control and theu are then ignoring it outright.
Also, I don't know, younger people are more OK with this stuff in Japan, as now we are all globally connected and I had some pleasent cooperation with Tokyo based DJs, but I can imagine that in higher and more corporate structures, the anti-foreigner sentiment is still strong and all things Japanese are always prioritized over inferior products from abroad.

[Robo4900]

Hasn't the entire of early Dragon Ball been recovered? I'm sure it has been, someone was hoarding it for like 10 years.

You're reading an old post. I gave a more up-to-date account right here, just a few posts down from that, but quite some time later.

99% of the broadcast audio was already in the hands of this or that collector as early as 2009, but efforts to get it into official hands failed, and the collectors either didn't want to give it up for free online because that's illegally sharing copyrighted content, or they are a greedy hoarder who likes having stuff to dangle in peoples' faces... I'm not naming names, but there were people in both categories here. There is a third category, which I've often been in -- I amassed a rather large collection, but didn't leak any of it anywhere, though I passed it all over to Chris Sabat, back when it still looked like Funi might use this stuff. I preferred to keep it private because then I could trade for more, and it would make an official release more special if I was to get ahold of all the best stuff for Funimation or whoever. Then it all leaked online, and Sabat lost his interest in doing an official release.
So, "someone was hoarding it for like 10 years" is quite an oversimplification. People have been trying to get it out the right way for about 10 years now, but it's consistently failed for this or that reason. On the plus side, it is all in public hands now, but personally, I think it would have been a lot better if this or that person hadn't done this or that thing that prevented it getting on an official release.

Sorry to hear that the official sides had no interest in the audio, but i'm at the very least glad the full broadcast audio is finally out in the wild. Sorry you had to go through all that, but I thank you for your efforts.

Well if I remember right, isnt AB in France is going to do their own release of Dragon Ball on Blu Ray? Even though it's unlikely, there is still the slimmest hope that fans could get in contact with them to see if they would be interested in the broadcast audio. You never know what could happen.

Here we go, found the article. - https://dragonballsuper-france.fr/integ ... -ab-video/

Interesting, it would be nice if at least one country got the proper original version of the show.

I have a friend who's trying to contact AB about this. We'll see if it goes well.

[Aim]

You're reading an old post. I gave a more up-to-date account right here, just a few posts down from that, but quite some time later.

99% of the broadcast audio was already in the hands of this or that collector as early as 2009, but efforts to get it into official hands failed, and the collectors either didn't want to give it up for free online because that's illegally sharing copyrighted content, or they are a greedy hoarder who likes having stuff to dangle in peoples' faces... I'm not naming names, but there were people in both categories here. There is a third category, which I've often been in -- I amassed a rather large collection, but didn't leak any of it anywhere, though I passed it all over to Chris Sabat, back when it still looked like Funi might use this stuff. I preferred to keep it private because then I could trade for more, and it would make an official release more special if I was to get ahold of all the best stuff for Funimation or whoever. Then it all leaked online, and Sabat lost his interest in doing an official release.
So, "someone was hoarding it for like 10 years" is quite an oversimplification. People have been trying to get it out the right way for about 10 years now, but it's consistently failed for this or that reason. On the plus side, it is all in public hands now, but personally, I think it would have been a lot better if this or that person hadn't done this or that thing that prevented it getting on an official release.

I'll need to find the recipes that someone sent me, the guy who leaked all of the BA for early DRAGON BALL (the whole thing before Z) had an issue with Kanzenshuu and VegettoEX, why? Seems like it was a typical right wing anime fan, seems to be a lot of them in the DB fandom these days, I'm not surprised though.

[ArmenianPepsi]

I feel like having all the BA available to anyone who can do some Google-Fu is the next best alternative to having it in an official release. As long as there is the demand for it, there will always be some people who are willing to take the mantle and sync the audio to whatever the most current release is at the time. Even if there isnt some small team who would take one for the team, anyone else could do it themselves as long as they have rudimentary editing skills.

Also since anyone can easily obtain it all, there is no real risk of it ever being in jeopardy again. We won't have to worry about it being lost to time due to aging VHS tapes, or forever locked away in the vault of some hoarder, only to ever be seen by a chosen few.

Honestly the whole BA situation is just fascinating to me, the kind of stuff that would only happen because it's Dragon Ball. Off the top of my head i'm not aware of any other classic anime that have had such a collective effort to save it's original audio. A show contemporary to DB like Fist of The North Star, that is also generally regarded as one of the all time classics, to my info only has a dozen or so scattered episodes with BA out in the wild. It's just my thoughts though, really I'm probably not in any position to talk.

[Robo4900]

I'll need to find the recipes that someone sent me, the guy who leaked all of the BA for early DRAGON BALL (the whole thing before Z) had an issue with Kanzenshuu and VegettoEX, why? Seems like it was a typical right wing anime fan, seems to be a lot of them in the DB fandom these days, I'm not surprised though.

Basically, this guy was a longtime Kanzenshuu user under one or two different names, but he was always very cynical about the broadcast audio situation, particularly in regards to those who he deemed to be hoarders (including Kei17). He got very, VERY mean to this people, and was banned for that, I think. He somehow got ahold of the DB BA after his ban (I'm given to understand he got talking to some collector somewhere, who he then eventually got into a huge fight with, and he shared the audio publicly as a power move against this guy, which was the final straw that burned that bridge), and he used the platform he was given by having this popular torrent to slag off VegettoEX and the Kanzenshuu crew as a whole.

He also went after me in another torrent for "Hoarding" some stuff that a friend and I had had transferred from some donated tapes (IIRC it was most of the Afterlife tournament arc from Fuji TV?), and we'd sent it to Funimation for them to use on future releases (back when that still looked likely), but we'd otherwise kept these recordings private, to keep it unique to Funimation; we knew Sabat was very disappointed after the initial Z BA leak, so we tried extra hard to keep a lid on everything we sent along. Basically no one even knew these Fuji recordings of this handful of Z episodes even existed until this guy put them out in a torrent that slagged us off for not making them public before then.

To be honest, I don't particularly care about the rest of what went on there, you develop thick skin dealing with people in this kind of situation when you're in my position, but when he was first getting ahold of DB's audio from the collector he was talking to, he was an acquaintance of mine, and actually sent it all along to me (needless to say, that bridge was burned later on). I was hoping to use this haul to reinvigorate the official side of things, with the full DB BA... But, the guy shared it all publicly to spite the collector, so that wasn't meant to be, I guess.

I guess at least the entire situation is now over. BA of all 508 episodes is around. If Toei ever get their shit together and decide to use it (or otherwise, if Funi, AB Groupe, or whoever else decide to try), it's there for them to use, and there's loads of people around who could easily provide it to them now.

I feel like having all the BA available to anyone who can do some Google-Fu is the next best alternative to having it in an official release. As long as there is the demand for it, there will always be some people who are willing to take the mantle and sync the audio to whatever the most current release is at the time. Even if there isnt some small team who would take one for the team, anyone else could do it themselves as long as they have rudimentary editing skills.

The BA being available online really isn't a substitute for an official release, though. Most people watch Dragon Ball by just watching it on DVDs or whatever streaming service has it. All the pirate releases do is mean the hardcore fans who are willing to resort to piracy can get a superior experience. And that sucks. That's not the way it should ever be.

Also since anyone can easily obtain it all, there is no real risk of it ever being in jeopardy again. We won't have to worry about it being lost to time due to aging VHS tapes, or forever locked away in the vault of some hoarder, only to ever be seen by a chosen few.

VHS rot was never really a concern here; the vast majority of people who possessed broadcast audio before all the leaking started happening had digitised their tapes on quality equipment already. The reason it was "lost" was just because they couldn't get Toei, Funi, or anyone else to accept it. The kinds of people who would prefer an immediate pirate release to a later-down-the-line official release frame this as it being "lost" for a long time, but realistically, if Toei, had wanted to do it, or if AnimeMaakuo hadn't betrayed Kei, and if this or that person hadn't leaked this or that thing that caused Chris Sabat to lose his enthusiasm for getting Funi to do it...

This whole mess is very disappointing for me, there were numerous times this could have been done the right way, and each time, those chances were dashed. Qualifiers like "at least it's out there" don't make things much better, in my mind.

Honestly the whole BA situation is just fascinating to me, the kind of stuff that would only happen because it's Dragon Ball. Off the top of my head i'm not aware of any other classic anime that have had such a collective effort to save it's original audio. A show contemporary to DB like Fist of The North Star, that is also generally regarded as one of the all time classics, to my info only has a dozen or so scattered episodes with BA out in the wild. It's just my thoughts though, really I'm probably not in any position to talk.

TBH, that's one of the saddest parts of this. Because of how badly collectors have been treated, and because of Toei and Funimation becoming completely indifferent to the audio, those other shows will probably never have their audio made available AT ALL. Fans of Fist Of The North Star, Saint Seiya, etc. will always be stuck with shitty optical audio, all because some people in the Dragon Ball fandom were very mean to some people who had stuff that these guys wanted to have. One collector who had all of Dragon Ball/Z, as well as probably a load of Fist and St. Seiya, vowed to never again help out with any of these situations after one particularly bad instance of someone being mean to that collector. I doubt this collector is alone in thinking these hostile attitudes aren't worth dealing with.

It's a fascinating situation, but also a deeply depressing one.

[Planetnamek]

It's really sad how mean and petty some people can get over situations like this, i'm a member of two invite-only torrent sites myself and most of the people i've interacted with on those places are some of the nicest and most helpful people i've ever come across anywhere and i've made damn sure to follow the rules to the letter when contributing to those sites. I don't know what it is about the anime fandom that makes some of them into such entitled jerks, nowadays whenever I see someone with an anime avatar on Twitter, I cringe because I know that usually means they are into alt-right garbage.

I wonder if that user that got banned was the same one that recently outright bragged to me about screenshotting a conversation between us in the PMs and posting it on his Twitter account? as I noticed the account of that troll that was harassing me is now gone(in case you're wondering why he harassed me, it's because he just couldn't handle the fact that i'd slagged off his precious sempais Diamond and Silk after he tried to promote them to me, anyone who has read ANY of my posts on this site will recognize how utterly hilarious it is that ANYONE would honestly believe I would EVER support those two lying nazi charlatans ) and he too slagged off Mike in his PMs towards me.

[ArmenianPepsi]

The BA being available online really isn't a substitute for an official release, though. Most people watch Dragon Ball by just watching it on DVDs or whatever streaming service has it. All the pirate releases do is mean the hardcore fans who are willing to resort to piracy can get a superior experience. And that sucks. That's not the way it should ever be.

VHS rot was never really a concern here; the vast majority of people who possessed broadcast audio before all the leaking started happening had digitised their tapes on quality equipment already. The reason it was "lost" was just because they couldn't get Toei, Funi, or anyone else to accept it. The kinds of people who would prefer an immediate pirate release to a later-down-the-line official release frame this as it being "lost" for a long time, but realistically, if Toei, had wanted to do it, or if AnimeMaakuo hadn't betrayed Kei, and if this or that person hadn't leaked this or that thing that caused Chris Sabat to lose his enthusiasm for getting Funi to do it...

This whole mess is very disappointing for me, there were numerous times this could have been done the right way, and each time, those chances were dashed. Qualifiers like "at least it's out there" don't make things much better, in my mind.

Very fair points. Perhaps my views are misinformed. All these events happened long before I even considered getting into Dragon Ball. I never had to go through a time where the BA wasn't just there for the taking, so it's something that I and future newcomers could easily take for granted, not being able to appreciate those who dedicated their own time to get it in the first place. I wasn't around to witness the search unfold, and go through the ups and downs that came with it. As a result my understanding of things is limited to 2nd hand accounts.

TBH, that's one of the saddest parts of this. Because of how badly collectors have been treated, and because of Toei and Funimation becoming completely indifferent to the audio, those other shows will probably never have their audio made available AT ALL. Fans of Fist Of The North Star, Saint Seiya, etc. will always be stuck with shitty optical audio, all because some people in the Dragon Ball fandom were very mean to some people who had stuff that these guys wanted to have. One collector who had all of Dragon Ball/Z, as well as probably a load of Fist and St. Seiya, vowed to never again help out with any of these situations after one particularly bad instance of someone being mean to that collector. I doubt this collector is alone in thinking these hostile attitudes aren't worth dealing with.

It's a fascinating situation, but also a deeply depressing one.

Further reflection on this has opened my mind a bit. It does seem dreary. Yes in the end we have all the DB BA on the open web, but to think of what other series could've been saved as well if history played differently.

[Aim]

I'll need to find the recipes that someone sent me, the guy who leaked all of the BA for early DRAGON BALL (the whole thing before Z) had an issue with Kanzenshuu and VegettoEX, why? Seems like it was a typical right wing anime fan, seems to be a lot of them in the DB fandom these days, I'm not surprised though.

Basically, this guy was a longtime Kanzenshuu user under one or two different names, but he was always very cynical about the broadcast audio situation, particularly in regards to those who he deemed to be hoarders (including Kei17). He got very, VERY mean to this people, and was banned for that, I think. He somehow got ahold of the DB BA after his ban (I'm given to understand he got talking to some collector somewhere, who he then eventually got into a huge fight with, and he shared the audio publicly as a power move against this guy, which was the final straw that burned that bridge), and he used the platform he was given by having this popular torrent to slag off VegettoEX and the Kanzenshuu crew as a whole.

He also went after me in another torrent for "Hoarding" some stuff that a friend and I had had transferred from some donated tapes (IIRC it was most of the Afterlife tournament arc from Fuji TV?), and we'd sent it to Funimation for them to use on future releases (back when that still looked likely), but we'd otherwise kept these recordings private, to keep it unique to Funimation; we knew Sabat was very disappointed after the initial Z BA leak, so we tried extra hard to keep a lid on everything we sent along. Basically no one even knew these Fuji recordings of this handful of Z episodes even existed until this guy put them out in a torrent that slagged us off for not making them public before then.

To be honest, I don't particularly care about the rest of what went on there, you develop thick skin dealing with people in this kind of situation when you're in my position, but when he was first getting ahold of DB's audio from the collector he was talking to, he was an acquaintance of mine, and actually sent it all along to me (needless to say, that bridge was burned later on). I was hoping to use this haul to reinvigorate the official side of things, with the full DB BA... But, the guy shared it all publicly to spite the collector, so that wasn't meant to be, I guess.

I guess at least the entire situation is now over. BA of all 508 episodes is around. If Toei ever get their shit together and decide to use it (or otherwise, if Funi, AB Groupe, or whoever else decide to try), it's there for them to use, and there's loads of people around who could easily provide it to them now.

How come Toei didn't accept the BA audio? Is it a pride thing?

[Robo4900]

How come Toei didn't accept the BA audio? Is it a pride thing?

Nah, they just don't care.

[Planetnamek]

I'll need to find the recipes that someone sent me, the guy who leaked all of the BA for early DRAGON BALL (the whole thing before Z) had an issue with Kanzenshuu and VegettoEX, why? Seems like it was a typical right wing anime fan, seems to be a lot of them in the DB fandom these days, I'm not surprised though.

Basically, this guy was a longtime Kanzenshuu user under one or two different names, but he was always very cynical about the broadcast audio situation, particularly in regards to those who he deemed to be hoarders (including Kei17). He got very, VERY mean to this people, and was banned for that, I think. He somehow got ahold of the DB BA after his ban (I'm given to understand he got talking to some collector somewhere, who he then eventually got into a huge fight with, and he shared the audio publicly as a power move against this guy, which was the final straw that burned that bridge), and he used the platform he was given by having this popular torrent to slag off VegettoEX and the Kanzenshuu crew as a whole.

He also went after me in another torrent for "Hoarding" some stuff that a friend and I had had transferred from some donated tapes (IIRC it was most of the Afterlife tournament arc from Fuji TV?), and we'd sent it to Funimation for them to use on future releases (back when that still looked likely), but we'd otherwise kept these recordings private, to keep it unique to Funimation; we knew Sabat was very disappointed after the initial Z BA leak, so we tried extra hard to keep a lid on everything we sent along. Basically no one even knew these Fuji recordings of this handful of Z episodes even existed until this guy put them out in a torrent that slagged us off for not making them public before then.

To be honest, I don't particularly care about the rest of what went on there, you develop thick skin dealing with people in this kind of situation when you're in my position, but when he was first getting ahold of DB's audio from the collector he was talking to, he was an acquaintance of mine, and actually sent it all along to me (needless to say, that bridge was burned later on). I was hoping to use this haul to reinvigorate the official side of things, with the full DB BA... But, the guy shared it all publicly to spite the collector, so that wasn't meant to be, I guess.

I guess at least the entire situation is now over. BA of all 508 episodes is around. If Toei ever get their shit together and decide to use it (or otherwise, if Funi, AB Groupe, or whoever else decide to try), it's there for them to use, and there's loads of people around who could easily provide it to them now.

How come Toei didn't accept the BA audio? Is it a pride thing?

Japan as a whole is VERY protective of their material, Atlus got a lot of hate for refusing to allow Persona 5 to be streamed on Twitch(though P5: Royal is allowed ironically enough) and Sega of Japan made a whole bunch of bogus copyright claims on Shining Force videos on Youtube(which resulted in some channels being suspended) and they never apologized for it and Konami attempted to have a video by SuperBunnyHop taken down(because it went into detail about their Pachinko business and how that was impacting their mostly lackluster video game output over the past few years).

Hell the reason the uncut English Yugioh dub stopped was pretty much entirely because of Johnny's Entertainment-the company that manages Yugi's original VA(who is a trained idol singer) not wanting 4Kids or Funimation to use his voice for any more DVD releases.

[Robo4900]

How come Toei didn't accept the BA audio? Is it a pride thing?

Japan as a whole is VERY protective of their material, Atlus got a lot of hate for refusing to allow Persona 5 to be streamed on Twitch(though P5: Royal is allowed ironically enough) and Sega of Japan made a whole bunch of bogus copyright claims on Shining Force videos on Youtube(which resulted in some channels being suspended) and they never apologized for it and Konami attempted to have a video by SuperBunnyHop taken down(because it went into detail about their Pachinko business and how that was impacting their mostly lackluster video game output over the past few years).

Hell the reason the uncut English Yugioh dub stopped was pretty much entirely because of Johnny's Entertainment-the company that manages Yugi's original VA(who is a trained idol singer) not wanting 4Kids or Funimation to use his voice for any more DVD releases.

I don't think it's that complex, though. What I've seen so far is just that they don't give a shit.

[Planetnamek]

How come Toei didn't accept the BA audio? Is it a pride thing?

Japan as a whole is VERY protective of their material, Atlus got a lot of hate for refusing to allow Persona 5 to be streamed on Twitch(though P5: Royal is allowed ironically enough) and Sega of Japan made a whole bunch of bogus copyright claims on Shining Force videos on Youtube(which resulted in some channels being suspended) and they never apologized for it and Konami attempted to have a video by SuperBunnyHop taken down(because it went into detail about their Pachinko business and how that was impacting their mostly lackluster video game output over the past few years).

Hell the reason the uncut English Yugioh dub stopped was pretty much entirely because of Johnny's Entertainment-the company that manages Yugi's original VA(who is a trained idol singer) not wanting 4Kids or Funimation to use his voice for any more DVD releases.

I don't think it's that complex, though. What I've seen so far is just that they don't give a shit.

Oh i'm sure that's part of it too, I think it's a combination of Toei being overly protective of it's material and also not giving a shit about trying to preserve its shows.

[Robo4900]

Japan as a whole is VERY protective of their material, Atlus got a lot of hate for refusing to allow Persona 5 to be streamed on Twitch(though P5: Royal is allowed ironically enough) and Sega of Japan made a whole bunch of bogus copyright claims on Shining Force videos on Youtube(which resulted in some channels being suspended) and they never apologized for it and Konami attempted to have a video by SuperBunnyHop taken down(because it went into detail about their Pachinko business and how that was impacting their mostly lackluster video game output over the past few years).

Hell the reason the uncut English Yugioh dub stopped was pretty much entirely because of Johnny's Entertainment-the company that manages Yugi's original VA(who is a trained idol singer) not wanting 4Kids or Funimation to use his voice for any more DVD releases.

I don't think it's that complex, though. What I've seen so far is just that they don't give a shit.

Oh i'm sure that's part of it too, I think it's a combination of Toei being overly protective of it's material and also not giving a shit about trying to preserve its shows.

I don't think "being protective" enters into it at all, though. "Being protective" and "Accepting lost material" are entirely unrelated ideas, if you ask me, and the overwhelming impression they've given is just not having any interest in fixing their shitty audio.

I mean, the #1 thing to remember is that they literally have the GT master audio on hand, in stereo, and they've never used it on official releases. If that doesn't say it all, I don't know what would.

[Aim]

Nah, they just don't care.

Absolute fucking joke, why does Toriyama put up with this shit? Excuse my language but this is the result of what happens when you put incompetent assholes in charge, WORKERS COOP RISE.

Back to the guy who leaked it, he was definitely one of those edgy assholes who likes to shit on progressives & LGBT people, but cry when someone shit on him for being straight lmao. I say this because I don't know if you saw, the guy was literally spouting some reactionary language in his leak.