Are senzu beans just a deus ex machina?

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Re: Are senzu beans just a deus ex machina?

Post by LoganForkHands73 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm

I mean, there's no reason poisoned Senzu couldn't work as a storytelling device. We've already seen what Senzu doesn't work against, i.e. Goku's heart virus. If they ever bring back the Shadow Dragons or a similar concept, it would be interesting to see them invert all of the heroes' magical get-out-of-jail items with their negative energy -- the Dragon Balls, Senzu, Potara, etc. all become either totally useless or backfire somehow. Goku and Vegeta try to fuse, they just end up splitting themselves into two weaker versions of themselves.

Real talk, what's with the general aversion to attempts at new(ish) ideas on this forum? I mean, yeah, I've seen some truly dumb, terrible ideas from people around here but there's nothing wrong with shooting the shit sometimes, ya know? People moan about the series remaining static but then refuse to hear possible alternatives.

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Re: Are senzu beans just a deus ex machina?

Post by Anonymous Friend » Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:41 pm

At some point in the story, Senzu's only benefit is healing wounds and all antaganists were strong enough to prevent you from using them. I would say around the Ginyu bits. Goku shows up and gets his body stolen and from then on all the villains have a pretty good upperhand on the heroes, or at the very least all the heroes start acting like dumbasses.
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Re: Are senzu beans just a deus ex machina?

Post by ABED » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:10 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:41 pm At some point in the story, Senzu's only benefit is healing wounds and all antaganists were strong enough to prevent you from using them. I would say around the Ginyu bits. Goku shows up and gets his body stolen and from then on all the villains have a pretty good upperhand on the heroes, or at the very least all the heroes start acting like dumbasses.
They aren't dumbasses. Their priority simply isn't saving the world.
People moan about the series remaining static but then refuse to hear possible alternatives.
I did hear them but I just don't agree with them. The Senzu thing is a fun little idea.
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Re: Are senzu beans just a deus ex machina?

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:25 pm

Food poisoning is the scariest enemy on the planet. What if a godly bean like a Senzu took on sentience and became a warrior that could give Gokuu and others food poisoning?
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