Dragon Ball Super 10th Anniversary

[BernardoCairo]

The writing consistency improved during the Champa arc onward, I would argue. Bring in King Ryuu and then Tomioka Atsuhiro to act as uncredited series kousei (basically a head writer) really helped tighten up the story and made them function better as a serialized story.

I’d argue that the Tournament of Power is actually a really fun arc in the anime too. People often say it’s just about hype moments, but I disagree. It works both as a standalone story and as a kind of Dragon Ball celebration. Plus, it makes up nearly half of the Super anime anyway.

[JulieYBM]

The writing consistency improved during the Champa arc onward, I would argue. Bring in King Ryuu and then Tomioka Atsuhiro to act as uncredited series kousei (basically a head writer) really helped tighten up the story and made them function better as a serialized story.

I’d argue that the Tournament of Power is actually a really fun arc in the anime too. People often say it’s just about hype moments, but I disagree. It works both as a standalone story and as a kind of Dragon Ball celebration. Plus, it makes up nearly half of the Super anime anyway.

I marathoned the first ten episodes of the Tournament of Power arc last month and I was blown away how much of the small moments that I had forgotten about since the original broadcast. Goddamn, let Tomioka Atsuhiro write Dragon Ball more often, those episodes felt like actual, serialized television with character arcs being built up.

[TRIZACK]

Where has time gone, despite its flaws Super's original run has a special place in my heart. A great time in my personal life and watching the streams every Saturday to see the new episodes was like Christmas to me.

I hope one day something else can create that magic.

[SupremeKai25]

I have so much nostalgia for Super, I even have a nostalgia of the copium. That's right, I have nostalgia of spring/summer 2019 when everyone was sure the anime would return

Lmao, I love this. That's just not a thing I would have expected someone to be nostalgic over and I love it.

Super anime was pretty decent when it got to original content, and I liked the manga a lot besides the tail end of the Granolah arc (though I don't care at all for Super Hero). But looking back, the production issues in the early sagas were absolutely wild and I can not believe some of the animation in them was even allowed to air. Would have been amazing to see it made with as much love as Daima got.

There's always a part of me that will see Super as a "what if" project. It could have been so good if other aspects of it got a lot more time in the oven. There are big consistencies between writers, and a lot of poor animation/stylistic choices, etc.

I strongly believe that if Super comes back with the production quality of Daima and it covers the Moro Arc, people will eat that shit up no question. Me included.

Early Super looked ugly only because the talented team that worked on it was forced to work on it for only 3 months. Super was conceived in April 2015 following the success of RoF and aired in July 2015. ANY team would deliver a rushed, ugly proudct if they only had 3 months to work on it.

The Super team was full of talented, capable people. They were vindicated, though. Because Mid/Late Super (Future Trunks and Tournament of Power) looks beautiful from a presentation standpoint.

Here are some of my favorite highlights from the Future Trunks saga:

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I am so, so happy that all the skilled and good people who worked on Super were vindicated. They showed to the world what they're capable of, despite the horrible conditions they were given. Now people can't stop asking about Super Season 2, because the latter half of the first season was received so well.

The writing standpoint is irrelevant to me. The Anime is helmed by Toei. I look at the Anime as I look at the DBZ movies: mindless fun from Toei. No one ever whines about the nonsensical writing in all the old DBZ movies, which are full of inconsistencies, plot holes, asspulls, and so on. But if you're really curious, there's lots of good writing and character bits throughout Super, both canon and filler episodes, as was mentioned earlier in this thread.

Anyway, the moral of the story is simple: If you want a new anime show, give your artist a reasonable amount of time to work on it. 3 months is actual slavery. Just because Super ended on a very high note and is widely considered to be a success doesn't mean we have to ignore its horrible origins. Looking at Daima, I'd say Toei learned their fucking lesson. Too bad they threw Early Super under the bus, and their artists to the wolves (after 10 years, there's still some people who think they're quirky with their "episode 5 ugly hehe" posts).

[Vegeta th3 4th]

I am so, so happy that all the skilled and good people who worked on Super were vindicated. They showed to the world what they're capable of, despite the horrible conditions they were given. Now people can't stop asking about Super Season 2, because the latter half of the first season was received so well.

Here's a crazy prediction, and I'm interested in what you think considering how much you like Super 1.0.: Super's 2nd season will be a full remake with Daima's production quality that includes the best parts from the series and manga, as well as the original manga arcs. What I'd do with the 4 movies is simply cut them up into individual 20 episode pieces, with additional animation used where needed for ending and beginning the next episode.

[SupremeKai25]

I am so, so happy that all the skilled and good people who worked on Super were vindicated. They showed to the world what they're capable of, despite the horrible conditions they were given. Now people can't stop asking about Super Season 2, because the latter half of the first season was received so well.

Here's a crazy prediction, and I'm interested in what you think considering how much you like Super 1.0.: Super's 2nd season will be a full remake with Daima's production quality that includes the best parts from the series and manga, as well as the original manga arcs. What I'd do with the 4 movies is simply cut them up into individual 20 episode pieces, with additional animation used where needed for ending and beginning the next episode.

I have a better idea: Since the Future Trunks and Tournament of Power sagas were well-received in spite of deadline struggles, we could leave them as they are and adapt the Moro saga, which will undoubtedly be well-received as well. Like the Future Trunks saga, it is in line with the doom stakes of DBZ. Like the Tournament of Power saga, it features amazing Ultra Instinct performance that result in all those cool sakugas with millions of views.

But once that is done, and if Toei really doesn't want to make new stories about Canon Cooler or Canon Janemba or even Canon Bojack or whatever, sure. They can go back to the older arcs and remake them with proper production time, and even including some of the cooler stuff from the manga (like Black stabbing Gowasu, that shot of Black getting up and smiling with a sword through his chest, Goku tapping into Hakai, and so on).

Oh, and they could remake the U6 tournament too, if they want. But I really don't care about this part of Super. And that's when Super begins, for the movie retellings are actually useless. (I could be wrong, but I don't believe anyone would suggest new fans to watch the RoF retelling instead of the actual movie, unless they hate them lmfao).

[coola]

Dragon Ball Safe, except for BoG, Broly and Hero movies, everything was play it safe, don't try anything new. Chi-Chi becoming B.tchy she was in anime, making Goku bigger dumbass than TFS counterpart. Forgetting world rules. Decent Movies, disappointing series.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

Dragon Ball Safe, except for BoG, Broly and Hero movies, everything was play it safe, don't try anything new.

Broly was just a modern version of Z's 8th and 12th movies, as well as the Bardock special mixed into one. The Red Ribbon Army wanting revenge in Superhero wasn't exactly an original idea, especially when Cell showed up. Battle of Gods, the Moro arc, and Daima were the only real original stories we got from this revival. Everything else was more or less based off of something we already had back in the 90s. The Broly movie was by no means bad, far from it, but I would've rather seen that production effort go into something original instead.