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QuantumDestiny
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by QuantumDestiny » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:14 pm
BrollysKin wrote:Weren't Cell's pants formed to his legs?
That was more like an exo-skeleton... doesn't count.
*'Best Legs' Award also goes to Freeza*
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by mAcChaos » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:48 pm
Vegeta in the Saiyan saga could compete in terms of character with Freeza, if not power.
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by McDonaldsGuy » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:43 am
Demon Piccolo was the most evil, in my opinion. I can't explain why, but I wanted him dead while I was rooting for Frieza to beat Goku.
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by Mr.Piccolo » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:09 am
Freeza and Piccolo Daimou both seem to be the most evil. But if you wanted to get deep with it, wouldn't Daimou be in the same situation as Buu and Cell? I mean, Kami casted out the malice that was in him and they made Piccolo. He didn't chose to be evil, he was evil. Well IDK, I think Freeza wins because Piccolo's son killed Krillin, but Freeza killed Krillin. And Cell had the dignity to wear a cup.
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by JAPPO » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:03 pm
Garlic JR seemed pretty evil to me...
If challenge had a taste, you'd be quite delicious.
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by Mystic Jack » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:14 pm
Garlic JR seemed pretty evil to me...
Never thought of him before... He could be in the Top 10.

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by DNA » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:56 pm
Well, I like lists, so let's make one D:
From the first really evil villan to the last
Piccolo Daimao - As stated, I was the evil part of Kami, so he was evil without a choice.
Freeza - A tyrant, he liked being evil BY CHOICE. Killed millions
Cell - Was created to kill Goku, deviated from program, a jerk with powers, liked to see other terrified.
Majin Buu - Was created to be a weapon of mass destruction and mindless.
Baby - Pure revenge was all that motivated him.
Super 17 - Kinda mindless and confused.
Omega Shenron - Created from the evil withing the dragonballs.
Now for the movie guys
Garlic Jr - Wanted to be Kami himself. Was evil but not THAT much evil.
Dr. Willow - ... I won't even say anything.
Tullece - A big fat jerk.
Slug - An even bigger fat jerk.
Coola - Family pride and not much else.
Super 13 - A mindless Jinzôningen (altough an ENOURMOUS punch in the nuts IS really evil >:( )
Brolly - Completly insane and bent on universal destruction, crappy reasons for it.
Bojack - Did he even talk? I have no idea what were is motifs.
Janemba - Technicly the most evil, since he was created from pure concentrated evil from ages, but again, didn't have a choice.
Hildgarn - Mindless monster.
I don't like to admit it :P but it seems that Freeza IS the most evil by choice. By nature I have to say Janemba.
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by shannarafan » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:57 pm
mAcChaos wrote:Vegeta in the Saiyan saga could compete in terms of character with Freeza, if not power.
Yeah, and also as a Majin. Killing hundreds of people just for a fight and grinning about it was pretty damn evil.
And y' know, I think it's ironic how so many fans (usually girls) of his hate Freeza. Like Vegeta's not a total dick and mass murderer himself. :/
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by TheJoo87 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:04 pm
Interesting no ones mentioned 17 and 18. I thought they were both very twisted. They ruled over the earth for Twenty years killing and destroying everything in sight. Like Freeza they have the ablility to make a choice, and they made their choice all right. Plus when the odds are stacked against them they team up and both go after Gohan, they're evil and they fight dirty, which makes them my pick.
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by DNA » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:52 pm
Grr, ok, let's make yet another list! (I do love my lists)
Pilaf - Poor little guy, not even Shenron considered him evil enough.
Red - Stupid, just wanted to be big.
Vegeta - Was pretty evil, but softed up.
#17 & #18 - They too were pretty evil by choice, seized the whole world and killed everyone. (But remenber that Freeza did the same thing in several worlds)
Badibi - Just trying to avenge is papa. The whole plan for destroning the Kaio Shins for no apparent reason.
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by Sun_Wukong » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:42 pm
I'm going with Freeza, he wanted power and didnt care how he got it. Well Vegeta was pretty much the same way..
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by gohanku » Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:20 am
It looks like Freeza the winner, he was the only one evil by choice, the others were all either born evil, insane or wanted revenge on something.
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by Super Sonic » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:29 am
17 and 18 of Trunks' time had the same thing with Cell and 19. They were created to be evil. They had no choice in the matter, unlike 17 and 18 of the present time.
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by tainted saiyan » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:39 am
Broly was Pure evil and hatred.
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by TheJoo87 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:19 am
Super Sonic wrote:17 and 18 of Trunks' time had the same thing with Cell and 19. They were created to be evil. They had no choice in the matter, unlike 17 and 18 of the present time.
I don't understand how they don't have the ability to make a choice while the present 17 and 18 do. Nothing is ever said concerning such a thing.
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by PrincessVegeta » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:41 am
To me it was always the Artificial Humans, mostly because they lead a huge path of destruction wherever they went.
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by DNA » Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:48 am
Yes... The Jinzoningen did all that... ON EARTH. Freeza did that on entire solar systems. Just because you don't see that on the Anime doens't mean it didn't happen. All the destruction we see made by the Jinzoningen is impressive, but it pales in comparison to all that Freeza did, altough off screen.
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by TheJoo87 » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:29 pm
DNA wrote: Yes... The Jinzoningen did all that... ON EARTH.
Yep they sure did.
DNA wrote: Freeza did that on entire solar systems. Just because you don't see that on the Anime doens't mean it didn't happen.
Um I don't recall ever saying that he didn't destroy millions of planets and countless lives, or that he wasn't evil. And he is my second pick for most evil.
DNA wrote:All the destruction we see made by the Jinzoningen is impressive, but it pales in comparison to all that Freeza did, although off screen.
While that is true I'm not talking about the amount of destruction a character is capable of doing and frankly 17 and 18 would gladly do the same as Freeza if they were given the chance. We're not talking about power here just how evil and ruthless they are.
Vegeta killed millions of people too and he was able to change and become a good person, so I seriously doubt that the amount of damage a character does determines how evil they are. It's more of the willingness to do it expecially how they do it. Your opinions are fine and all, yes Freeza rules, he's one of my favorite villans, but I still say 17 and 18.
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by DNA » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:34 pm
This discussion is reaching the point of ridiculeness o_O Anyway, has I said before, I don't even like to see Freeza "getting the prize" of the most evil villan, but taking the facts, I have to say that he is.
Furthermore, althought I find this expression redundant, due to the last post I'm forced to say that: that's my opinion
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by TheJoo87 » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:59 pm
DNA wrote:This discussion is reaching the point of ridiculeness o_O Anyway, as I said before, I don't even like to see Freeza "getting the prize" of the most evil villan, but taking the facts, I have to say that he is.
Furthermore, althought I find this expression redundant, due to the last post I'm forced to say that: that's my opinion
I think you took what I said a little out of proportion, I wasn't trying to shove anything down your throat saying ITS YOUR OPINION, because that would be rude. I was simply saying that I understand why you think Freeza is the most evil based on your thoughts that's all.
Also I'm not saying my opinion is fact either if that's what you thought. If so that would be my fault.
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