Complete BT3 Info and Discussion Thread [UPDATED 10/02/07]

Post by **TripleRach** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:36 pm

Ooh, almost exactly what I predicted this update would be. These are the literal translations of the new ones:

61: SON Gohan (Youth Era)
62: Super Saiya-jin SON Gohan (Youth Era)
63: Super Saiya-jin 2 SON Gohan (Youth Era)
64: Trunks (Sword)
65: Super Saiya-jin Trunks (Sword)
66: Super Vegeta
67: SON Gokuu (Late Era)
68: Super Saiya-jin SON Gokuu (Late Era)
69: Super Saiya-jin 2 SON Gokuu (Late Era)
70: Super Saiya-jin 3 SON Gokuu (Late Era)

...For the hell of it, I'll do the older ones, too.

1: SON Gokuu (Early Era)
2: Piccolo (Early Era)
3: Kuririn
4: Yamcha
5: Tenshinhan
6: Chaozu
7: Nail
8: King Vegeta
9: Oozaru King Vegeta
10: King Kold
11: Oozaru (Low Class Warrior)
12: SON Gohan (Child Era)
13: Yajirobe
14: Vegeta (Scouter)
15: Oozaru Vegeta
16: Raditz
17: Oozaru Raditz
18: Saibaiman
19: Nappa
20: Oozaru Nappa
21: Appule
22: Kewi
23: Zarbon
24: Super Zarbon
25: Dodoria
26: Ginyuu
27: ReaCoom
28: Butta
29: Jeese
30: Gurd
31: Freeza First Form
32: Freeza Second Form
33: Freeza Third Form
34: Freeza Final Form
35: Full Power Freeza
36: Soldier of Freeza's Army
37: SON Gokuu (Mid Era)
38: Super Saiya-jin SON Gokuu (Mid Era)
39: Vegeta (Early Era)
40: Super Saiya-jin Vegeta (Early Era)
41: Demon King Dahbra
42: Majin Buu (Good)
43: Majin Buu (Pure Evil)
44: Majin Buu (Evil)
45: Majin Buu (Evil) Gotenks Absorbed
46: Majin Buu (Evil) Gohan Absorbed
47: Majin Buu (Pure)
48: Mage Babidi
49: Spopovitch
50: Majin Vegeta
51: Cyborg #16
52: Cyborg #17
53: Cyborg #18
54: Cyborg #19
55: Doctor Gero
56: Cell First Form
57: Cell Second Form
58: Cell Perfect Form
59: Perfect Cell
60: Cell Junior

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece · Post by **Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:12 pm

If late era SSJ Goku looks like that in game, I'll thoroughly piss myself with piss of joy.

On the other hand, the exact opposite for SSJ2 Goku, seeing as his bangs and hair are done wrong in the official artwork (he looks like an SSJ with a lightning aura).

And also, there's more stuff up about the Shenron keychain.

Gaiash · Post by **Gaiash** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:41 pm

The fact we now have three different adult Gokus has only one disapointment for me. Not being able to go Super Saiya-jin 3 in the early story mode. Still I'll make up for that in Vs mode.

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:44 pm

Every time there's a new scan or a major update in Japanese, a guy on the gamefaqs forums does a very fine job of translating it for everyone. I'll repost it here every time he gives us the goods.

Zasentaman wrote:

The features page has been updated and pretty much is repeating what V-Jump announced in their last issue.

The PS2 will have a feature known as the "Disk Fusion System." What this does is that it enables the player to load either their BT1 disk to play the "Ultimate Battle" Mode which was the Ultimate Ranking Mode; and load their BT2 disk to play the "Ultimate Battle Z" mode which was the many different tag battles. Basically you just pick what disk you want to load, then the game will tell you to take out the BT3 disk by simply pressing the eject button and then insert the BT disk that you selected and it'll simply load up the disk and it's Ultimate Battle mode with BT3 Featured gameplay.(other words, updated game play on the old Ultimate Battle mode)

The Wii version will have a Online fighting mode that will be known as the "Dragon Net Battle."

One the first menu for the"Dragon Net Battle" is this:
- WiFi Battle
- Friend Management
- Account Creation

This is the WiFi Battle net Menu:
- Custom Battle
- Normal Battle
- Friend Battle
- Ranking Battle
- Rankings
- Battle Record

Notes:
Seems like you can only fight people online within your country since the kanji they use specifically says that.

Next, they updated the Character section with the following characters:
Son Gohan - Young Boy(Android Arc)
SSJ Son Gohan - Young(Android Arc)
SSJ2 Gohan - Young(Android Arc)
Trunks - Sword
SSJ Trunks - Sword
Super Vegeta
Son Goku - Late Era
SSJ Son Goku - Late Era
SSJ2 Son Goku - Late Era
SSJ3 Son Goku - Late Era

The only interesting note on the character section is that they say when Goku fought Paikuhan(Pikkon) during the Other World Tournament, he fought him in the SSJ2 Form.

Links to feature: http://dbzs.jp/meteor/p_features/03.html

Links to characters: http://dbzs.jp/meteor/p_characters/07_gohan_young.html

That's it for nows.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:51 pm

Humpski wrote:
Randio wrote:
Humpski wrote:Why is there just a random SSJ Vegeta in there? Shouldn't there be a Base and Super Vegeta as well? I really hope this one isn't yet another stand alone Vegeta.
I believe that is Super Vegeta.
Okay, so the same thing still applies though. I hope Super Vegeta isn't another stand alone character.

He's not. They already showed Base and SSJ Vegeta for the Android Saga earlier.

HyperBlaze · Post by **HyperBlaze** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:48 pm

Gaiash wrote:The fact we now have three different adult Gokus has only one disapointment for me. Not being able to go Super Saiya-jin 3 in the early story mode. Still I'll make up for that in Vs mode.

Yeah....I'm glad it's done this way, perfect! Serves you right for all you story mode cheaters out there! lmao

Going to levels that you should'nt be in in certain times in story mode.

There kinda being extra strict now!

Gaiash · Post by **Gaiash** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:28 pm

HyperBlaze wrote:
Gaiash wrote:The fact we now have three different adult Gokus has only one disapointment for me. Not being able to go Super Saiya-jin 3 in the early story mode. Still I'll make up for that in Vs mode.
Yeah....I'm glad it's done this way, perfect! Serves you right for all you story mode cheaters out there! lmao Going to levels that you should'nt be in in certain times in story mode.

There kinda being extra strict now!

I just liked seeing the long haired siblings face off. I also loved seeing Super Saiya-Jin Scouter Vegeta in Budokai 3.

But yes I do like that the fights can be more accurate now.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:28 pm

Just the fact that we're getting the exact same milked-to-death story mode we've had in 6 previous Ps2 games is enough to make me wanna slam my head into a desk. I mean c'mon SPIKE, is it really so hard to take a page out of the Shin Budokai games and do something original? Show us a damn imagination, be creative! I mean, do some of us really wanna do Goku Vs. Raditz, etc., etc., etc. for the 7th time? And so what if I'm complaining about this aspect of the game, I got a damn right to! If anyone wants to join me and EX/Mike in pulling our hair out, fill out the proper forms and get in line. We love this story with all our hearts SPIKE, but for the love of God, even this epic classic gets old when we've played it and seen it infinitely; learn to be original!

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:40 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:If anyone wants to join me and EX/Mike in pulling our hair out, fill out the proper forms and get in line.

I call spot number 3.

Anyway, why does the SSJ2 Goku picture looklike regular SSJ with lightning? Weird, but oh well.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:28 pm

HyperBlaze wrote:Yeah....I'm glad it's done this way, perfect! Serves you right for all you story mode cheaters out there! lmao Going to levels that you should'nt be in in certain times in story mode.

There kinda being extra strict now!

I still say it's dumb as hell. Don't want SSJ3 Goku fighting Raditz in the story mode? Simple solution. Don't push the transformation button. Splitting them up is just wasting the team's effort on worthless additions when they could be working on something actually worth the time.

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:08 am

Xyex wrote:
HyperBlaze wrote:Yeah....I'm glad it's done this way, perfect! Serves you right for all you story mode cheaters out there! lmao Going to levels that you should'nt be in in certain times in story mode.

There kinda being extra strict now!
I still say it's dumb as hell. Don't want SSJ3 Goku fighting Raditz in the story mode? Simple solution. Don't push the transformation button. Splitting them up is just wasting the team's effort on worthless additions when they could be working on something actually worth the time.

Amen to that, Early Goku is a waste of space and so is Mid Goku's UB, go to 'ell with an Angry Kamehameha as a UB. Some nice art work indeed. Now we seen all three Goku version and most of the story, I think they will show DB character next right?

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:33 am

gohanku wrote:
Xyex wrote:
HyperBlaze wrote:Yeah....I'm glad it's done this way, perfect! Serves you right for all you story mode cheaters out there! lmao Going to levels that you should'nt be in in certain times in story mode.

There kinda being extra strict now!
I still say it's dumb as hell. Don't want SSJ3 Goku fighting Raditz in the story mode? Simple solution. Don't push the transformation button. Splitting them up is just wasting the team's effort on worthless additions when they could be working on something actually worth the time.
Amen to that, Early Goku is a waste of space and so is Mid Goku's UB, go to 'ell with an Angry Kamehameha as a UB. Some nice art work indeed. Now we seen all three Goku version and most of the story, I think they will show DB character next right?

Either that or the movie characters most likely. I'm sure they'll be holding off the GT stuff for last.

Magica · Post by **Magica** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:51 am

This is my opinion to so many Goku's in the game: Fan service.

There's people that will complain that there's too many Goku. Then there's those who if there were only a couple of Goku in a game would complain about the lack of Goku.

Someone would want their Goku during the Snake Way/King Kai era.
Someone would want their Goku during the Pikkon episodes.
Someone would want SSJ3 Goku during movie 13.
Somsone would want movie 1-13 (pick one) Goku.
Someone would want naked bath-can SSJ Goku.

And so on.

HyperBlaze · Post by **HyperBlaze** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:08 am

Xyex wrote:
HyperBlaze wrote:Yeah....I'm glad it's done this way, perfect! Serves you right for all you story mode cheaters out there! lmao Going to levels that you should'nt be in in certain times in story mode.

There kinda being extra strict now!
I still say it's dumb as hell. Don't want SSJ3 Goku fighting Raditz in the story mode? Simple solution. Don't push the transformation button. Splitting them up is just wasting the team's effort on worthless additions when they could be working on something actually worth the time.

Who the hell says it's worthless?! It ain't to me! Spiltting them up ain't a waste of space cause if any other characters were'nt planned to be put in in the first place then thats how it gonna be!

Why do people insist on complaining when they should "know" by now that the sparking series is about being very specific!

Anyone that ain't in at this point (Sparking Neo) really do'nt matter except for a few exceptions like the GT cast.

I could careless about the added characters at this point (we have a crazy amont like never before already so get over it) it's about the games show-simulated gameplay as far as I'm concerned.

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:16 am

HyperBlaze wrote:
Xyex wrote:
HyperBlaze wrote:Yeah....I'm glad it's done this way, perfect! Serves you right for all you story mode cheaters out there! lmao Going to levels that you should'nt be in in certain times in story mode.

There kinda being extra strict now!
I still say it's dumb as hell. Don't want SSJ3 Goku fighting Raditz in the story mode? Simple solution. Don't push the transformation button. Splitting them up is just wasting the team's effort on worthless additions when they could be working on something actually worth the time.
Who the hell says it's worthless?! It ain't to me! Spiltting them up ain't a waste of space cause if any other characters were'nt planned to be put in in the first place then thats how it gonna be!

Why do people insist on complaining when they should "know" by now that the sparking series is about being very specific!

Anyone that ain't in at this point (Sparking Neo) really do'nt matter except for a few exceptions like the GT cast.

I could careless about the added characters at this point (we have a crazy amont like never before already so get over it) it's about the games show-simulated gameplay as far as I'm concerned.

You know, I would usually love to make a comeback about what I think about the entire "multiple versions of the same character" thing, but it was my skirmish with you about it that got the last thread locked, so I say let's try to bitch about something that we won't fight over.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:19 am

I'm with Ex-Dubbie. I've put too much work into this thread to get it closed. So, let's drop this here. We've all said, more than once, what we think of this matter. Let's not go over it again and kill another thread, ok?

My guesses for the next character update next week:
- Cyborg Freeza
- Trunks (armored)
- USSJ Trunks (armored)
- USSJ2 Trunks (armored)
- Future Gohan
- SSJ Future Gohan
- Kid Trunks
- SSJ Kid Trunks
- Goten
- SSJ Goten

majinrod153 · Post by **majinrod153** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:20 am

[Part 3] *FINAL*

Q: Will there be a mini game mode?

NB: Yes. There will be some mini-games.

DC: There are a few mini games planned in the game, not just the loading screens this time! They may even unlock some special stuff…

Q: Will there be Japanese music in the game?

NB: Yes. But not songs. Would you guys like Japanese song inside?

DC: Yes we have the Japanese songs in the game but they are instrumentals only, no voice.

Q: What is this Dramatic Z Engine? Is it about cut scenes? Will we have more? Or is it something about battles?

NB: The story mode has been changed dramatically. We’ll explain this later

DC: This has to do with the cut scenes. Instead of just playing every story through just like the show, we are allowing the players to change the outcome for a new story and new scenes. Of course if you like to see these battles just as they are on the show you can do that as well!

Q: Is there a possibility that the number of characters would increase above 150 in the time that's left for the game to be finished? Or is it decided already?

NB: Yes. There always is a possibility to produce something good for fans!

DC: We think we have a pretty full character roster but if there is space to pack more in, we will!

Q: What is your point of view on the Dragon Ball series? Should a game developer appreciate the series on which he works for his game?

NB: Dragon Ball Z is the gold master of all anime in the world. We’ve grew up watching Dragon Ball Z when we were young. Now we can be a part of the DBZ game development team, and we really appreciate being a part of the team. The last year I traveled to Italy, and in the very small town in Italy there was a TV game shop. And at the very front of the casher desk, Tenkaichi softs were placed. Kids in Italy love to play Dragon Ball Z games. We really appreciate the opportunity to produce TV game with such famous anime series, and on the other hand we always need to put ourselves in hard work because so many fans are waiting for our game all over the world.

DC: Dragon Ball set the bar in action anime, I love it and feel very proud working with something so special. Every other action anime I see, I am comparing it to DBZ. I feel that even after all these years there is nothing more amazing than some of the fights in DBZ. As for whether or not a dev team needs to appreciate the series? - Of Course! Everyone who works on these titles are definitely diehard DBZ fans.

I found this on Atari forums. Looks like we might be getting japanese music this time.

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:34 am

So we have something like Super Survivor but no voices? That sounds weird, but I like the battles affect cut scenes thing, sound intriguing. Nice find, majinrod153!

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:01 am

So if I was playing Goku and Piccolo versus Radditz and Goku lives then that will change the story maybe? Like Goku trains Gohan instead of Piccolo?

Nah, it's probably not that in depth...
I don't understand what they mean with this feature.

Gaiash · Post by **Gaiash** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:06 am

Humpski wrote:So if I was playing Goku and Piccolo versus Radditz and Goku lives then that will change the story maybe? Like Goku trains Gohan instead of Piccolo?

Nah, it's probably not that in depth...
I don't understand what they mean with this feature.

I guess it'll be like how beating the ??? battles gave you a What-If story in Sparking Neo.