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Post by **TripleRach** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:41 am

That's how the disc is supposed to be. Movie 1 and 2 are like that as well.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:20 am

sailorspazz wrote:

I think I've spent more money on Dragonball than anything else in my life ^_^;;

I know, ain't it sad in a way?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:36 pm

cover of the disc is completly colorless, with clear (kinda blurry actually) 'outlines' of Turles and Goku. It still plays fine, but could it be a defect?

I bought the box set of 1-3 and all three were like that. Don't worry, they all work fine.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:25 pm

Thanks Triple and Dayspring. It just sorta looked funny compared to the rest of the movies, I thought maybe they forgot to place a cover on it. Now I know their just lazy.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:37 pm

Remember: Pioneer did movies 1-3 and not Funi. (which is why you prolly paid tons extra, right?)

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 1:41 am

Yeah, it was a bit more than I expected, $34 Canadian. I'm not sure what you mean about Pioneer though, both companies logos appear on it.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:04 am

Funimation owns the North American rights to DB, but a couple of years ago, they didn't do the video distribution, Pioneer did that for them. You can tell when it's Pioneer because the cover art's better and not some cheap still shot from the anime itself.

Man Funimation's cheap sometimes!

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:55 am

Funimation owns the North American rights to DB,

Not ALL North America! That's why YTV had so many problems with getting new seasons of DBZ on time. Blue Water was giving them a run for their money. Although BW still has yet to sell any dvds and I suppose that's the purpose of this thread isn't it?

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:05 am

Yes, but at the time, AB Productions, the ones who had the Blue Water dub done, weren't as prevalent here in North America. You're forgeting Dayspring that for a time, we did get the Funimation dub version of DBZ. Then towards the end of the Cell Games, we started getting the Blue Water dub broadcast here.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:06 am

Yeah! I remember that; I was all stoked for the Cell games fight, then all of a sudden all the voices just completly changed. I know some people prefer the ocean dub voice actors to FUNimations, but that sure ruined it for me.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:13 pm

Adamant wrote:"Bardock - The Father of Goku" (PAL)
"The History of Trunks" (PAL) (this version includes the section "Trunks Moments", consisting of (dub-only) clips of Trunks' battles with Freezer's Henchmen, Freezer, King Kold and Jinzoningen 17 and 18, instead of the History of Dragonball, or whatever it was called, that's on about 10 other DVDs)

Er, are you sure you mean "PAL" there? There is no European version of those DVDs yet, and that "History of Dragonball" thing is something only on FUNi DVDs. And they are NTSC.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:19 pm

PsyLiam wrote:
Adamant wrote:"Bardock - The Father of Goku" (PAL)
"The History of Trunks" (PAL) (this version includes the section "Trunks Moments", consisting of (dub-only) clips of Trunks' battles with Freezer's Henchmen, Freezer, King Kold and Jinzoningen 17 and 18, instead of the History of Dragonball, or whatever it was called, that's on about 10 other DVDs)
Er, are you sure you mean "PAL" there? There is no European version of those DVDs yet, and that "History of Dragonball" thing is something only on FUNi DVDs. And they are NTSC.

Yeah, they're PAL.
Australian.

Yeah, History of Dragon Ball is only on the FUNi DVDs. I said my DVD didn't have it.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:40 pm

Yeah, History of Dragonaball is only on the Funi DVDs. I said my DVD didn't have it.

Don't worry, it's not like you're missing anything. It's just edited together scenes going over DB and the first half of DBZ with Funi's irritating music and narration. Consider yourself better off for it!

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:00 pm

Ah, yeah, my bad.

So what DVDs does Australia get? The US ones repackaged? New ones? Ones with monkeys?

tablet the eunuch · Post by **tablet the eunuch** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:16 am

Australia get slightly differen't DVDs.

They are licensed and authored by the company Madman Entertainment.

In order to gain quicker profits, they produced a lot of English Dialouge Only discs. I shall explain roughtly when discs cames-

**NOTE- Number in Australia is a lot more organised, and as a result easier to identify and well, ORGANISE titles. Here is the key-

Pioneer Seasons 1-2, 17 volumes- 1.1-1.17
Captian Ginyu, Frieza, and Garlic Junior- 2.1-2.15
Trunks, Z Warriors Prepare (DVD version of the Burger King tape, two eps plus recap), Androids, Rest of Cell- 3.1-3.24
Great Saiyaman, World Tournament, Babidi, First two volumes of Majin Buu- 4.1-4.14
Rest of Majin Buu till the very end- 5.1-5.17

First batch of DBZ DVDs. We got volumes 3.1 till around 3.14. In English only, but Uncut. At this time there was no Bilingual resources and they had to get the DVDs out while they were fresh and technically ahead of TV. Around volumes 3.8 and stuff, we got the Two TV Specials in Uncut, Japanese and English with English subtitles. Sometime during or slightly after this, we got the Pioneer English and Japanese with English subtitles Uncut versions.

After this, we started on volumes 4.1 till volume 4.5, which were English Uncut only. On Volume 4.5, we got Movie #4 in English and Japanese with English subtitles. This was the same trend for volumes 4.6 till 4.14. Around this time, volumes 3.15 till 3.20 were released. on 4.8, we got a release of movie #5 with English Spanish and Japanese.

Interesting note about Movie #5- Madman had attempted to use the Original Japanese coverart for this film, but were shot down by FUNimation. Shucks.

Also, around the same time as volumes 4.13 and 4.14, Volumes 1.1 till 1.17 were released in two boxed sets. There were the Pioneer edited releases.

5.1 came around, and continued along in the same format as 4.XX. Movie #6 was released at some point, and Movie #7 was released at the same time as 5.17, which was the concluding volume to the series.

Several Months later, it's announced that around the middle of the year (this being 2003), Dragonball Z volumes 2.1-2.15 were announced as Bilingual and Uncut. This pleased a whole bunch of fans because their faith in Madman hadn't quiet died yet. It was irritating to hear that they were out-working themselves or some reason, and would release them in English only. Despite that, all of DBZ was released on DVD. We beat the US. However...

A few months later, Movie #8 was released, which was almost the same as the R1 copy. On the same day, DBGT volumes 1 and 2 were released.

Dragonball Movie #1: The Path to Power (it was called Movie #1 down here), was released in November with volumes 3 and 4 of DBGT.

Season 3 (3.XX) is being released in THree, 8 volume boxed sets, but are re-runs of the old discs.

They plan on releasing the first two Dragonball sets sometime in March, along with DB US Movie #3/AUD Movie #3. The First set is the Saga of Goku set, with slgihtly different packaging, much to peoples dissapointment. The second set is a replica of Dragonball: World Tournament.

PROBLEMS WITH REGION 4 RELEASES

All of them suffer from being interlaced from NTSC footage. It can look fairly horrid if you're on a monitor. The US ones look better.

Now to start from the top.

Movie #5, on some discs, suffers from very irritating menus and also has a wonderful thing where you CAN NOT CHANGE THE AUDIO OR SUBTITLES IN FILM.

5.1, if viewed in english, will skip the first quater of the peisode after where vegeta blows himself up. It will go straight to a flashback to the world tournament.

5.7, on episode 1, has a big, big flaw. On the second quater of the disc, the picture screws up. The layers are badly glued together or something. That entire segment of the episode is completely screwed, unwatchable, in either language.

None of these volumes have yet been remastered, even though they are willing to fully re-release a whole bebop disc simply because of a 4 second dropout (not even a complete dropout at that!) in the Japanese track.

Movie #7 was horrendously bad quality and did not have the R1's 5.1 Track. No one knows who's to blame.

Season 2, volumes 1-15: unlike Season 3, which did not have an Uncut, Bilingual source, season 2 did. They left it out due to laziness, where it could of been easy to simply wait a while. It was the middle of the year too, so it's not like they had christmas rush. This annoyed lots of peoiple who had held out in order to buy Madmans release. Also, it was rumoured by some of the Madman forum members and one staff (I think?) that the release would be Edited only, simply because they ddi a previous VHS release edited. Sleazy.

We all know the story of DBGT, how it's pretty much been skipped about 5 or so volumes? Not that it's a big of a deal, but we followed that same release pattern, however they were nice enough to put volumes #1 and #2 on the covers, despite them not BEING the begining of the series. This could indicate they have no intention on releasing those volumes, or that they want fanboys complaining WERE R DA MISSIN EPZ? This Numbering occours through the whole series.

Dragonball Movie #1, was set to be good, except after 30 or so minutes there are no subtitles. A remaster has been issued, but apparently very few people have been able to find it.

Yeah. In all honesty though, I wouldn't mind adding this into the DVD guide, simply as a reason NOT to get R4 DVDs. Why? They're prone to more faults, and picking them up from the US is a lot better. Trust me.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:41 am

tablet the enuch wrote: All of them suffer from being interlaced from NTSC footage. It can look fairly horrid if you're on a monitor. The US ones look better.

Yeah...

It's not the fact that it's interlaced, but like you mention, it's the fact that they're just re-telecining the already telecined video to get the frame-rate they need. This is ABSURD. The normal process should involve them taking it directly back to the FILM 23.976 masters that it's originally in, and covert it from THERE to the 25 fps PAL needs, even if that involves changing the pitch in the audio.

Interlacing to interlacing is... ugly...

Yay for North America! One great thing about us using NTSC is that, for the most part, we get properly telecined footage, since us and Japan are really the only ones that use it

tablet the eunuch · Post by **tablet the eunuch** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:41 am

VegettoEX wrote:
It's not the fact that it's interlaced, but like you mention, it's the fact that they're just re-telecining the already telecined video to get the frame-rate they need. This is ABSURD. The normal process should involve them taking it directly back to the FILM 23.976 masters that it's originally in, and covert it from THERE to the 25 fps PAL needs, even if that involves changing the pitch in the audio.

It's due to the fact that already telecined masters are all they're given. well, for their Z release. THen again I'm doubtful to anything they say, so yeah

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:19 pm

*edit* Never mind.

Gohan-kun · Post by **Gohan-kun** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 2:48 pm

TOEI's DVD's are progressive though. I don't know why FUNi didn't make them progressive. Instead we get Interlaced encoding which is crap if watching it on a monitor. But I don't care because I watch it on my TV

Post by **VegettoEX** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 3:02 pm

Gohan-kun wrote:TOEI's DVD's are progressive though. I don't know why FUNi didn't make them progressive. Instead we get Interlaced encoding which is crap if watching it on a monitor. But I don't care because I watch it on my TV

You've got a shitty software DVD player, then

. Most software players have some built-in deinterlacing that does a pretty good job of taking care of it. I just went into more detail on progressive vs. interlaced in your other thread, though ^^.

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