How strong do you think Freeza could have become?

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:50 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote:
Toriyama Boss wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:Goku was the one who figured out why. Freeza held back so that the explosion wouldn't be TOO large, and thus hurt him as well. But he accidentally held back TOO much, and didn't end up blowing up the planet in one shot like he'd wanted to.
Do you have the actual dialogue of what Freeza said? Cause I am not at home but I believe it was Volume 27 chapter 320 or 321 IIRC.

Thanks.
Freeza: Damn...!! I held back too much...!!
Goku: You were afraid of getting caught in the planet's explosion. You blew it. Of course, that saved me...
Freeza: Saved? Heh Heh Heh... That's what you think...
Freeza: You escaped an instantaneous explosion of the planet.. But I detonated the core.. Do you know what that means? Within five minutes, the core will explode on its own... And Namek will be dust...

Thank you dude!!!!

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:33 pm

I was thinking about this. But wouldn't Frieza turn out like Cooler? Cooler seemed to actively train and found a fifth form.

Suupaa Gohan 2 · Post by **Suupaa Gohan 2** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:16 pm

Yeah, but Koola still got cocky and lost - though you have to give him credit for at least admitting his faults as he died and how he repeated his brother's mistakes. Freeza was a fool to the end.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:45 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:Freeza would PWN Gokou no matter how hard Gokou trained.
Until the power of the Super Saiyan awoke and Goku tore Freeza in half.
Well actually Freeza defeated Freeza.

or at least cut himself in half

Yes, and Cell was defeated by Cell.

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:51 pm

Hi,

I know this is off topic but I wanted to ask if anyone knows what the original comic says about the Saibamen being equal to Radditz and what was their power level?

Thanks.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:29 pm

I'll confirm it later tonight, but as far as I know the Saibaimen and Raditz were nearly equal in power even in the comic.

As for Freeza, there's not much I can say that hasn't been said. I bet if he were to have turned out joining Goku like many bad guys did he could've easily kept up with them if he learned how to sense Ki.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:57 pm

Kendamu wrote:I'll confirm it later tonight, but as far as I know the Saibaimen and Raditz were nearly equal in power even in the comic.

From Viz's Translation-
*Just after Tenshinhan beats the first Saibaman with ease.

Nappa: It's impossible...! The Cultivars' (*Saibamen) power is over 1200...! Equal to Raditz, every one of them...!

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:11 pm

Wow thanks.

It stated that in the Viz transaltions but did it say that in the japanese original comic?

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:20 pm

I can't translate it exactly, but it looks as if they're saying that the Saibaimen were equal to Raditz.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:22 pm

Kendamu wrote:I can't translate it exactly, but it looks as if they're saying that the Saibaimen were equal to Raditz.

Well, the number 1200 is at least obvious. And we know Raditz wasn't much higher than that. I think it's safe to say Viz had an accurate translation in this instance.

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:21 pm

Kendamu wrote:

I can't translate it exactly, but it looks as if they're saying that the Saibaimen were equal to Raditz.

Thank you.

Here's a translation....
Nappa: I'm...impossible...!! The combat power of Saibai Man is 1200...!! With only power, he could square off with Raditz...!!

Vegeta: Going by simple calculation, his combat power should exceed that.

Nappa: But...! There is no such data!!

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:12 pm

MisterFlashdude wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I can't translate it exactly, but it looks as if they're saying that the Saibaimen were equal to Raditz.
Well, the number 1200 is at least obvious. And we know Raditz wasn't much higher than that. I think it's safe to say Viz had an accurate translation in this instance.

The only problem with their translation is that it states that the Saibaimen and Raditz have a battle power of over 1,200, when the Japanese text simply said 1,200 even.

MisterFlashdude · Post by **MisterFlashdude** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:36 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:The only problem with their translation is that it states that the Saibaimen and Raditz have a battle power of over 1,200, when the Japanese text simply said 1,200 even.

Meh, so they added a little dramatic flourish... It's not like they changed the number from 8000 to 9000... er... make that, OVER 9000!
(I had to... I'm.. sorry...)
It still gets the same idea across. Raditz and the Saibaman all had power at or around 1200.

Toriyama Boss · Post by **Toriyama Boss** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:41 pm

Nevermind.......

Kanzenshuu

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