The Legendary Z-Sword

[SonEric84]

And the pillar is actually different, in away, than the weights. That was a lift (by hands) and a throw. And the pillar likely only weighed a few hundred pounds. Maybe a thousand. And the strength needed to throw it like he did is different than the strength needed to lift it.

It's not the weight of the pillar that is making Tao Pai Pai's feat impressive. It's the simple mathematics involved with propulsion. He was able to throw that thing, and it flew how many hundreds of miles? He stated he could get there faster then a jet plane in that way. This feat is insane if you know anything about propulsion, as the sheer metric tons of force behind his throw must have been staggering.

As for other physical feats suprassing the whole 40-ton thing, one only has to look at the transformed Zarbon, smashing Vegeta into the ground. Vegeta, a humanoid the size of a small human male, creates a crater about as big as a large lake. In order for him to have made that crater, there'd have to be some serious force behind that impact--especially given the short distance he fell from the air, to create it.

Are we to believe that the likes of Tao Pai Pai and Zarbon are stronger then Buu-saga Goku? No. We simply must accept that Toriyama goofed, and that 40 tons was far too low a number to use.

I see what you're saying, but I don't think I would call it a "goof." I doubt Toriyama was thinking about the science behind all this.

[goodguy777]

And the pillar is actually different, in away, than the weights. That was a lift (by hands) and a throw. And the pillar likely only weighed a few hundred pounds. Maybe a thousand. And the strength needed to throw it like he did is different than the strength needed to lift it.

It's not the weight of the pillar that is making Tao Pai Pai's feat impressive. It's the simple mathematics involved with propulsion. He was able to throw that thing, and it flew how many hundreds of miles? He stated he could get there faster then a jet plane in that way. This feat is insane if you know anything about propulsion, as the sheer metric tons of force behind his throw must have been staggering.

As for other physical feats suprassing the whole 40-ton thing, one only has to look at the transformed Zarbon, smashing Vegeta into the ground. Vegeta, a humanoid the size of a small human male, creates a crater about as big as a large lake. In order for him to have made that crater, there'd have to be some serious force behind that impact--especially given the short distance he fell from the air, to create it.

Are we to believe that the likes of Tao Pai Pai and Zarbon are stronger then Buu-saga Goku? No. We simply must accept that Toriyama goofed, and that 40 tons was far too low a number to use.

Smashing Vegeta into the ground and lifting 40 tons are different. DBZ characters always attack their enemy with "CHI" whether it is physical or energy attack.

[Xyex]

It's not the weight of the pillar that is making Tao Pai Pai's feat impressive. It's the simple mathematics involved with propulsion. He was able to throw that thing, and it flew how many hundreds of miles? He stated he could get there faster then a jet plane in that way. This feat is insane if you know anything about propulsion, as the sheer metric tons of force behind his throw must have been staggering.

As for other physical feats suprassing the whole 40-ton thing, one only has to look at the transformed Zarbon, smashing Vegeta into the ground. Vegeta, a humanoid the size of a small human male, creates a crater about as big as a large lake. In order for him to have made that crater, there'd have to be some serious force behind that impact--especially given the short distance he fell from the air, to create it.

Are we to believe that the likes of Tao Pai Pai and Zarbon are stronger then Buu-saga Goku? No. We simply must accept that Toriyama goofed, and that 40 tons was far too low a number to use.

Oh, I understand that. I may not have been an A student in my phsyics class but I do know the ammount of force needed for such a feat. My point is that force and strength are not the same. It's possible to be able to exert enough force to throw a bike but not have the strength to lift up a car. I wont deny that there's likely a disproportionate gap between the level and difficulties of the feats but they don't innately contradict. It also largely depends on the weight of the thrown pole. Obviously a lighter pole would need less force and there-by require less strength with which to generate that force.

As for the crater, meh, not really. You can create some very large impacts with very small objects so long as you have a decent level of velocity. And by Namek the characters were likely moving 300 to 400 mph. More than enough velocity to generate considerable impacts.

I'm still boggled by how Taopaipai could throw a tree and then jump onto it.

Yes. XD More than anything else that's my WTF? point with it. First he throws it way into the distance, and then he manages to jump after it faster than the threw it so that he can land on it and ride it (one then must ask themself why he even bothers to ride it and just doesn't jump all the way to where he's going as it'd likely be faster). Beyond this landing on the pole he threw doesn't seem to change it's direction any at all plus he isn't blown off of the pole by the wind nor does his presence cause any drag to the pole's (albeit minor) aerodynamics.

[Jerseymilk]

(one then must ask themself why he even bothers to ride it and just doesn't jump all the way to where he's going as it'd likely be faster).

Yes but perhaps it's a case where he's lazy and doesn't want to have to jump all the way there?