Dragonball Movie Update! What is UP with this?

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:16 am

I figured it out! I think the first picture is a fake, movie sets are usually pretty tight as good as far as keeping their costumes consistent and if you look at this official picture of Goku in his movie outfit, the symbol on his shirt is on his left side.

On this picture the symbol is on his right side, which means thats someone probably took an old promotional image and edited it around to make it look like a new one!

Haha, master investigator SSj_Rambo has struck, proving all that is fake!

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:23 am

Yeah, I can't wait to see the "LLABNOGARD" movie.

...It's a legit image; someone just flipped it around for some reason.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:55 am

djkalteraphine wrote:The only character I'm worried about is Goku. The guy playing him, in every photo so far, looks completely blank. Goku never, ever had an expression you could classify as blank. Even when he was caught off guard and knocked down, his eyebrows would make an expression of surprise. Heck, even when he dies, he's got a big smile on his face.

I agree, Goku is far from an angsty character. The one characteristic that separates him from every other Shounen hero is that he's an adult that's still a child at heart. He has all this power yet he has the personality of a 10 year old.

But then again, I can see why they're doing it. Hollywood tried to make Batman a family friendly character in the 60's and he almost faded into obscurity because of it. I think Fox is afraid the Goku character will be seen as too campy if they stick with his original personality and mannerisms.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:30 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:But then again, I can see why they're doing it... I think Fox is afraid the Goku character will be seen as too campy if they stick with his original personality and mannerisms.

As somewhat disappointing as that would be, I can see the reasoning behind it, as well. They'd have to find a good balance, though; otherwise we'll end up with Batman and Robin. O_<

But again, I don't think we should or can judge how he'll act in the movie based on a couple promotional shots. It's not necessarily an indicator of his actual character. After all, Bruce Willis' character spent most of Live Free or Die Hard being completely clueless and flabbergasted about things, and the movie had a lot of humor on his and others' parts. But all you saw on the posters was Lord Willis making badass scowls.

Similarly, Chatwin-Goku is an action hero. Even though, in addition to his ass-kickery, he will (probably) act plenty like the goofy, naive Goku we all know, portraying him as such wouldn't make for very good promo material.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:42 pm

I am reserving all my opinions until I actually sit in the theater and watch the movie.

Also, if anyone remembers other than me, there was a set report that stated they filmed a scene were Goku is attempting to get some food from a Hot Dog Vendor, but Chi Chi has to pull him away.

If this scene is true, than they at least sticked to Goku's personality a bit.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:43 pm

Velasa wrote:Actually, Marsters is the only thing in the movie I'm really not worried about much at all. If you look for other videos and information on him you'd learn that he's actually fought the producers for the integrity of Daimaou's character. Granted, I still have severe concerns that we may only be having Daimaou and no Piccolo, but that isn’t a problem that stems from the actor.

Haha did I convert you?
I do wonder how they'll handle our second Piccolo, and if James will still play him. But they don't technically need to address that in this particular film.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:59 pm

If I had to wager a guess, I would say that they are going to make Daimaou and Ma Junior, one and the same in order to save time and quickly move into the Z stuff. Like at the end, instead of Killing Daimaou, he merely defeats him, and he vows to train until he can kill Goku, blah blah, Raditz, blah blah, Z stuff.

Now, I can't be certain, but this seems like a logical progression for a movie version, but hey, don't flame me, it's just a thought.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:15 pm

omegacwa wrote:If I had to wager a guess, I would say that they are going to make Daimaou and Ma Junior, one and the same in order to save time and quickly move into the Z stuff. Like at the end, instead of Killing Daimaou, he merely defeats him, and he vows to train until he can kill Goku, blah blah, Raditz, blah blah, Z stuff.

Now, I can't be certain, but this seems like a logical progression for a movie version, but hey, don't flame me, it's just a thought.

That's what I've been suggesting for a while. Lord Piccolo gets his wish for his youth to be restored, and it turns him into Piccolo Jr. Goku fights and beats him in the finale, but spares his life. Omitting the whole "reincarnation/son" mess would keep things uncomplicated.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:22 pm

Hmm. Maybe Piccolo gets Mafuba'd again, only to be released out of necessity in the next movie?
Oooh, in fact... *goes off to write fanfiction*

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:49 pm

ultimateemail5000 wrote:Goku sort of makes that same pose at the end of Cha-la when he holds the power pole, and what do you know? He has a serious look on his face. Chill out people.

Thing is, Goku actually does smile in that shot, unlike this promotional piece and pretty much every photo we've seen of Chatwin as the character. The fact that he's being marketed as an all-business/probable-angstin' super hero tells us, from my point of view, this is the adaptation of the character that will be a hybrid of various other mainstream comic characters. It may personality-wise be a "Goku" that isn't anything at all like Akira Toriyama's, Toei Animation's, or even FUNimation's Son Goku. But for now, we've only got some comments from Marsters, a few casting spoilers, and some promotional pics. We'll see how things end up in the trailer.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:57 pm

Yea, we really won't know until we get a trailer. And sometimes, even trailers do a piss poor job of giving us a true picture. What I read about Hancock comes to mind. It is marketed as a somewhat comedic action flick, but the people behind it say it's a good deal darker than its marketing campaign.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:05 pm

Just to reiterate...

SSj Kaboom wrote:But again, I don't think we should or can judge how he'll act in the movie based on a couple promotional shots. It's not necessarily an indicator of his actual character.

SSj Kaboom wrote:Similarly, Chatwin-Goku is an action hero. Even though, in addition to his ass-kickery, he will (probably) act plenty like the goofy, naive Goku we all know, portraying him as such wouldn't make for very good promo material.

Action heroes rarely, if EVER, have goofy smiles on posters. It's bad advertising for this kind of movie.

AleezaChocolat · Post by **AleezaChocolat** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:31 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:Why am I not surprised at the glum expression. This is our Goku? I really hope this possible-poster-art is subject to change and they maybe wise up, using a more upbeat shot of the guy. Chatwin's supposed to be a goofy, cheerful fun kind of bumpkin guy. Don't advertise Son Goku with the blank-angst emotional range as these *cough* two certain fellows whom myself, as well as some others here, are nearly convinced the character will end up a clone of.[/size]

Well, seeing as how Chatwin described Goku as someone who "always takes action himself, is positive thinking, helps the weak," adding that Goku "had a great influence on myself" . . . I'm not too worried about his portrayal of Goku as of yet.

Like others have brought up, action posters are always "grr" and grim, not smiley and goofy, even if there is a lot of humor in the movie itself. Also, Chatwin is notorious for not being very photogenic. Or at least he is to my friends and me.

I like him when I see him on screen, but not in the promo photos, usually (War of the Worlds, The Invisible, etc.). . . .

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:32 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:I figured it out! I think the first picture is a fake, movie sets are usually pretty tight as good as far as keeping their costumes consistent and if you look at this official picture of Goku in his movie outfit, the symbol on his shirt is on his left side.

On this picture the symbol is on his right side, which means thats someone probably took an old promotional image and edited it around to make it look like a new one!

*IMAGE SNIP*

Haha, master investigator SSj_Rambo has struck, proving all that is fake!

Or, if you look at the text at the bottom of that image, it says "Dragonball" backwards as well. So, very possibly, the image itself is mirrored and, when un-mirrored, everything is fine.

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:08 pm

Give me one shot of him looking like this:

And I won't say a word against Chatwin until I see the movie.

I understand there's gotta be a certain level of marketing here, but if they really wanted some good buzz, it would be a good idea to market to, I dunno, us?

Ah well, maybe not.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:19 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:
djkalteraphine wrote:The only character I'm worried about is Goku. The guy playing him, in every photo so far, looks completely blank. Goku never, ever had an expression you could classify as blank. Even when he was caught off guard and knocked down, his eyebrows would make an expression of surprise. Heck, even when he dies, he's got a big smile on his face.
I agree, Goku is far from an angsty character. The one characteristic that separates him from every other Shounen hero is that he's an adult that's still a child at heart. He has all this power yet he has the personality of a 10 year old.

But then again, I can see why they're doing it. Hollywood tried to make Batman a family friendly character in the 60's and he almost faded into obscurity because of it. I think Fox is afraid the Goku character will be seen as too campy if they stick with his original personality and mannerisms.

*Raises hand* I liked the campy "batusi" Batman from the 60's sitcom with those fireman poles that lead to the batcave. I thought it was funny.

That being said, I like Son Goku's personality just as how Mr. Toriyama created it. If I wanted to go read about an angsty main character in a Shounen series I'd go find some other series to be a fan of. But I don't want to.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:32 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:

Wow nice outfit...

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:36 pm

Snail wrote:Wow nice outfit...

You know these are just his civvies for before he trains under Roshi, right? Have you already forgotten that we've SEEN the Kame school uniform, and how awesome it looks?

I wish they'd start putting out promotional images with him in the kame gi, so folks would stop with such obnoxious, unneeded remarks.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:37 pm

Snail wrote:
SSj_Rambo wrote:

Wow nice outfit...

There is nothing nice about the outfit for being an outfit for Goku :/

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:39 pm

I WILL admit that I like the look on his face and his stance. If there is a sequel, let's hope Chatwin has the willpower to put on 10 - 15 pounds of muscle mass at the very least.

*edit

Kaboom, I was aware of that. I'm just a little peeved that they would use that outfit for a promotional poster that's all. Understandable yes? Everybody knows Dragonball...and in this day and age, nothing is really THAT campy anymore. Ex: Spider-Man, Iron Man, etc. etc. Colorful, and faithful outfits aren't frowned upon anymore.