did they have Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans in the original DBox?.:PoetikaL:. wrote:Well I hope they put in specials for each set. What I mean is like the commercials from Japan or something along that line, like the Eyedrops and Pencils they advertised. And of course, pray to God.... PTETS (Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans) in one of them.
It would also be really cool if they added American commercials as well. Toonami, video games, Burger King... You know all those curiosities..:PoetikaL:. wrote:Well I hope they put in specials for each set. What I mean is like the commercials from Japan or something along that line, like the Eyedrops and Pencils they advertised. And of course, pray to God.... PTETS (Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans) in one of them.
My God yes. I would love if they put in the character profiles Toonami did as a feature.SonGokuGT wrote:It would also be really cool if they added American commercials as well. Toonami, video games, Burger King... You know all those curiosities..:PoetikaL:. wrote:Well I hope they put in specials for each set. What I mean is like the commercials from Japan or something along that line, like the Eyedrops and Pencils they advertised. And of course, pray to God.... PTETS (Plan To Eradicate The Saiyans) in one of them.
That's something I brought up on the podcast a few weeks back, but the resulting discussion pretty much dropped it off my radar. That kind of stuff would need to be further licensed for FUNimation to obtain/use/distribute, and with the thinner margins (presumably) on this release than the orange bricks, it doesn't make sense for them to really go out of their way to seek out and include that kind of material.SonGokuGT wrote:It would also be really cool if they added American commercials as well. Toonami, video games, Burger King... You know all those curiosities.
That sounds like me. But don't let that bother you please. Why would that bother you that someone else doesn't like it for that reason and they won't buy it? I mean you can still buy it. Hell, if there was someone on Amazon that gave the Dragonbox 1 star because it didn't have the Spanish audio. I wouldn't let his review stop me from buying it..:PoetikaL:. wrote:Sadly, the one I bolded and italicized is what most people on forums are... it's their way or no way, it really pisses me off how people can be like that. The whole "I'm pissed they didn't add the dub music, I won't buy it anymore. Screw DBox" is probably the most stupidest thing to utter out of that person's mouth. The Dbox was made to be just like the Japanese release, with our added dub on it. That Dbox had only but the Japanese music, and so will this release, so either deal with it or shut up.
Sorry for the rant.
Dude, you're missing the point entirely.ShinRogafuken wrote:What is up with all these Dragon Box arguments? Come on. This is going to be a great experience for most of us and some of you guys are kinda messing up the moment if you know what I mean.
Don't like the fact that the Dragon Box won't have Bruce Faulconer's music? HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF8viHUFnpA (It's not that hard, people).
Oh, come on. I'm not gonna suddenly start liking the Japanese music just because it's the only option on the Dragon Box. And I'm not gonna do it just because someone on a forum told me so.ShinRogafuken wrote:This may seem a bit harsh, but if Faulconer fans want the same visual quality as the Dragon Box, they really need to accept the Japanese version and get over it. Why can't they understand that its not the real soundtrack to Dragon Ball Z?FuniYamcha wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick and instigate things, but I don't see why people keep saying "go back to the season sets, then" in response to the faulconer fans. If the season sets weren't of inferior quality visually, then we wouldn't have needed Dragon Boxes here to begin with. So the Faulconer crowd just wants the same visual quality of the Dragon Box. I would consider that logical.
Of course, in my opinion I think the best course of action would have been redubbing the show completely, with new script and all, and putting that on. Call me crazy, but when I hear the current english dub, I don't take it seriously, therefore I *like* Faulconer's track on there because it enhances that. It's like those of us who watch movies like The Fast and The Furious because of the unintentional hilarity of the soundtrack and over the top acting. Of course, that's also why I'd like a serious version, hence the redubbing/rescripting thing.
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:If Toriyama joined Kanzenshuu, he'd probably forget his login name and password.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
Bruce Faulconer's score was a mistake in the first place. That's all I'm going to say because I don't want to argue.jjgp1112 wrote:Dude, you're missing the point entirely.ShinRogafuken wrote:What is up with all these Dragon Box arguments? Come on. This is going to be a great experience for most of us and some of you guys are kinda messing up the moment if you know what I mean.
Don't like the fact that the Dragon Box won't have Bruce Faulconer's music? HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF8viHUFnpA (It's not that hard, people).
Oh, come on. I'm not gonna suddenly start liking the Japanese music just because it's the only option on the Dragon Box. And I'm not gonna do it just because someone on a forum told me so.ShinRogafuken wrote:This may seem a bit harsh, but if Faulconer fans want the same visual quality as the Dragon Box, they really need to accept the Japanese version and get over it. Why can't they understand that its not the real soundtrack to Dragon Ball Z?FuniYamcha wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick and instigate things, but I don't see why people keep saying "go back to the season sets, then" in response to the faulconer fans. If the season sets weren't of inferior quality visually, then we wouldn't have needed Dragon Boxes here to begin with. So the Faulconer crowd just wants the same visual quality of the Dragon Box. I would consider that logical.
Of course, in my opinion I think the best course of action would have been redubbing the show completely, with new script and all, and putting that on. Call me crazy, but when I hear the current english dub, I don't take it seriously, therefore I *like* Faulconer's track on there because it enhances that. It's like those of us who watch movies like The Fast and The Furious because of the unintentional hilarity of the soundtrack and over the top acting. Of course, that's also why I'd like a serious version, hence the redubbing/rescripting thing.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Rory wrote:SSVegetto, I'm glad you've calmed down a little, but you've got to understand, if something had to be cut, it was the Faulconer track, FUNi isn't out to get anybody, if something was cut, it was cut for a reason. The Faulconer track (much like the Ocean DVDs) have served their purpose, they really were a nice extra for the Season Sets, but the fans of the dub will either need to move on from this, or await a future release which will contain this track (most likely a Blu-Ray release). I know you've felt cheated, but you've got to appriciate how long the fans of the original Japanese version were loyal enough to rough it out for what, 15 years of abuse from FUNi? I'm sure you can handle a single release.
If I can be a little selfish for a second though, I must say I'm glad the 3rd track was cut, not only for quality purposes, or for a dislike of the soundtrack, but I really feel that it would've been out of place on such a release. I'd also be a little embarassed due to the heavy amount of Japanese imports these are gonna' get (I can guarantee if these don't sell well in America, Japan is gonna save this release due to imports). I'm not mocking the Faulconer track, I'm just saying, for this release, it'd really be defying the point of the Dragon Box.
Well, saying that statement alone starts arguments. You can't really just say that and say oh well I don't want an argument. Because it's obvious some people like Faulconer's score, and just because other people don't prefer it, that doesn't mean it's a mistake.ShinRogafuken wrote:Bruce Faulconer's score was a mistake in the first place. That's all I'm going to say because I don't want to argue.
Pretty much hit my opinion on the head, though I'm getting all the sets.penguintruth wrote:I'm looking forward to whatever's in that booklet, actually. Interviews? Cast commentary? I'd be interested in reading some of the thoughts of the folks in the production of the show.
I would love to get all the extras that the Japanese release did, even if they're spread over the course of the several releases (which, by the way, was a great idea by Funimation), but maybe that's asking too much.
I'd also like to see a DBox release for the original series and the movies. For GT, eh, I could probably pass that up.
Though, I'm wondering whether or not I'll still be riding on this wave of nostalgia that brought me here to begin with, and care enough to buy the other sets. Keeping some of the more enjoyable filler material from the earlier sagas is something I'm glad to do, but when we get to the later sagas, maybe I'll hold out for a domestic Kai release.
For sure, I'll want the Dragon Box release that has the Cell Games episodes on it. Those are my favorite episodes of the entire series.
Actually, you could almost say it is. It's something we've judged Dragonball releases by for over 5 years, never imagining we'd get a release of the things ourselves. It isn't just a release to us, it represents something, a new start, FUNimation turning over a new leaf, so to speak. A few dub fans are going to be hurt in the process, and that really is a shame, but as I've said, this is focusing on the Japanese fans (as the pretty much said when it was announced) , the Faulconer track simply does not belong on this release, dispite anybodys opinions.SSVegetto wrote:Defying the point of the Dragonbox <--- What?, Is this Dragon box like a pride thing or something for you guys?
Hurray for being able to see Goku VS Cell in all it's original glory (no super dark coulours! 4:3!)penguintruth wrote:For sure, I'll want the Dragon Box release that has the Cell Games episodes on it. Those are my favorite episodes of the entire series.
That was... beautiful Rory.Rory wrote:Actually, you could almost say it is. It's something we've judged Dragonball releases by for over 5 years, never imagining we'd get a release of the things ourselves. It isn't just a release to us, it represents something, a new start, FUNimation turning over a new leaf, so to speak. A few dub fans are going to be hurt in the process, and that really is a shame, but as I've said, this is focusing on the Japanese fans (as the pretty much said when it was announced) , the Faulconer track simply does not belong on this release, dispite anybodys opinions.SSVegetto wrote:Defying the point of the Dragonbox <--- What?, Is this Dragon box like a pride thing or something for you guys?
That just seems to be the way it is, it's a shame you won't give the set a chance, if you really tried, the Japanese audio may win you over (it really is a masterpiece in my opinion), but it sounds like you've already given it that chance.
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:If Toriyama joined Kanzenshuu, he'd probably forget his login name and password.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.JacobYBM wrote:No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
When the English version of the show is hardly the same show, it does.Lazyking wrote:One other thing, just because you haven't or don't like the show in Japanese doesn't diminish your fandom for Dragonball and anybody who says differently is an arrogant asshole.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
