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Post by Rocketman » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:15 pm

Bulma hits on Vegeta right after he brags about slaughtering a Namekian village, less than a week after he attempted to kill her, and a little over a month after he murdered half the cast.

Just cause she's a genius doesn't mean she ain't a dumbass.

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Post by saiyangerl » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:23 pm

Rocketman wrote:Bulma hits on Vegeta right after he brags about slaughtering a Namekian village, less than a week after he attempted to kill her, and a little over a month after he murdered half the cast.

Just cause she's a genius doesn't mean she ain't a dumbass.
I'm curious if she really does that in the original or not. I know she calls him "homeboy" in the dub and says he's "kinda cute." I haven't gotten around to finding the original version of that for comparison. Anybody know?

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Post by penguintruth » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:41 pm

Rocketman wrote:Bulma hits on Vegeta right after he brags about slaughtering a Namekian village, less than a week after he attempted to kill her, and a little over a month after he murdered half the cast.

Just cause she's a genius doesn't mean she ain't a dumbass.
Well, technically, Vegeta didn't kill anyone in the cast.

Perhaps he facilitated some of their deaths, but he never personally killed any of the heroes.

And Nappa only technically killed Piccolo. Tenshinhan and Chaozu killed themselves.

Yamcha was killed by act of Saibamen, which is not included in life insurance policies, despite my protests.
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Post by Super Sonic » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:41 pm

penguintruth wrote:I don't know, I felt like Bulma felt dumber in the Funimation dub, and they gave her a lot of lines she didn't originally have. She didn't try to "cool it up" in the Japanese like in the dub. It didn't help that Tiffany Vollmer made her into a valley girl.

"Hey, homeboy!"

But, I guess she's still a pretty shrill bitch in either. I still love her, though.
That's not Valley Girl. That's more sterotypical white guys using slang black guys use and not sounding so good at it, but not valley. You want Valley Girl, chick who tells Goku where policeman is was Valley Girl. Though in a weird way, it kinda fits since the episode came out in what, 1987-88?

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Post by penguintruth » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:46 pm

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penguintruth wrote:I don't know, I felt like Bulma felt dumber in the Funimation dub, and they gave her a lot of lines she didn't originally have. She didn't try to "cool it up" in the Japanese like in the dub. It didn't help that Tiffany Vollmer made her into a valley girl.

"Hey, homeboy!"

But, I guess she's still a pretty shrill bitch in either. I still love her, though.
That's not Valley Girl. That's more sterotypical white guys using slang black guys use and not sounding so good at it, but not valley. You want Valley Girl, chick who tells Goku where policeman is was Valley Girl. Though in a weird way, it kinda fits since the episode came out in what, 1987-88?
It's not so much the dialogue, but Tiffany Vollmer's voice itself for the role that sounds Valley Girl-like.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Post by Super Sonic » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:08 pm

Preferred the cute Scandanavian-Canadian lady from the first 2 seasons who was on Gundam Seed Destiny?

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Post by Onikage725 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:22 pm

saiyangerl wrote:I'm curious if she really does that in the original or not. I know she calls him "homeboy" in the dub and says he's "kinda cute." I haven't gotten around to finding the original version of that for comparison. Anybody know?
I recently read that part in the manga. She tells everyone to stay at her place, adds that Vegeta should too, and then jokingly tells him not to try anything. The way it played out seemed flirtatious to me, though that is debatable and not quite as blatant as saying he was cute.
Super Sonic wrote:Preferred the cute Scandanavian-Canadian lady from the first 2 seasons who was on Gundam Seed Destiny?
Lalainia Lindbjerg, loved her since Mermaid's Scar and Ronin Warriors and much preferred her as Bulma.
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:27 pm

Super Sonic wrote:Preferred the cute Scandanavian-Canadian lady from the first 2 seasons who was on Gundam Seed Destiny?
Marginally.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Post by Super Sonic » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:28 pm

Couldn't remember how to spell her name. Did like her Bulma. Only thing saw her in besides DB was that Sabrina tv movie that premiered before the series, and was different.

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Post by saiyangerl » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:55 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
saiyangerl wrote:I'm curious if she really does that in the original or not. I know she calls him "homeboy" in the dub and says he's "kinda cute." I haven't gotten around to finding the original version of that for comparison. Anybody know?
I recently read that part in the manga. She tells everyone to stay at her place, adds that Vegeta should too, and then jokingly tells him not to try anything. The way it played out seemed flirtatious to me, though that is debatable and not quite as blatant as saying he was cute.
I tracked down some manga I could read online since that peaked my interest in the differences between the manga and the anime and I found that part. It's actually quite funny. Funnier than her saying "homeboy" and calling him "kinda cute." I still like the dub but I can appreciate the manga too. :wink:

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Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:42 am

I don't know if I'm the only one whose felt this way, but I always thought Volmer's voice was kinda sexy. Okay, I know...I'll stop right there, but I stand by what I say. :D

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Post by penguintruth » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:51 am

Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Post by bkev » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:55 am

Penguin, you forget this was some of her earliest work. Though to be fair, of all the cast, she improved the least.
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:07 am

bkev wrote:Penguin, you forget this was some of her earliest work. Though to be fair, of all the cast, she improved the least.
I'm getting deja vu here. Did we already have this exchange?

Here's Vollmer as Bulma in Dragon Ball GT.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Post by bkev » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:09 am

I don't think so from me, but given your stance it's likely you've had this altercation before with someone else. However, I may have at one point. Also, Sabat sounds absolutely horrendous in that clip.
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Post by Baby Naruto » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:44 am

I love FUNimation's English Dub and only watch FUNimation's English Dub because I grew up watching it, plus I only watch anime english dubbed anyways :).

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Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:46 pm

Baby Naruto wrote:I love FUNimation's English Dub and only watch FUNimation's English Dub because I grew up watching it, plus I only watch anime english dubbed anyways :).
Same here. I'd rather watch a show in my own language.

Really, I just look at shows as standalone shows. I don't look at the version of DBZ that I saw growing up as some dub of a show. I look at it as well, the show that I loved growing up. And honestly, as a standalone show, the DBZ dub is pretty good. As a dub of another show, though, it's okay. Now something like 4Kids' One Pieve dub is terrible as a standalone show and abysmal as a dub of a show.
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Post by .:PoetikaL:. » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:06 pm

There are certain shows that I'll watch dubbed, and the other subbed. It's really a preference as to which one I will watch.

Now, I used to watch DBZ only in English up until about a couple months ago. I'm now only for the original Japanese version, because honestly the voices fit so much better and there is more emotion to the series in it's original format. When I watch the dub now, it's like the overall tone now is something that Broly haters feel "GRRR TESTOSTERONE, MUST KILL, OVERPOWER!" That's how the dub feels to me now since my transition over. Also the changes that were added to the dub also made me want to go over to the Japanese version.

Yu Yu Hakusho I only watch as a dub. Reason why? Comparing the dub to the subtitles at the bottom, everything seems to even up perfectly. Obviously it isn't word for word, but it is just about, and nothing is changed around to confuse people. Plus I feel the dub voices fit the characters nicely, as do the original, and they fit the personality to each.

Bleach... this one was a fun one. I first started watching the dub, and I thought it was amazing! Up until they got to the Soul Society, and I heard Renji's voice... I hated it. So once I stopped watching the most recent English, I began watching the original Japanese at Dattebayo.com. So much better and I loved the emotion and tone. It fit so much better to me than the English ones. Now every Saturday night, I watch the dub on Adult Swim (right now they are at Hueco Mundo, and Chad got owned.)

So what factors affect me to watch a dub or sub: The emotion of the VA's, how accurate it stays to the story, and the tone either or brings to the table.
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Post by B » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:20 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Now something like 4Kids' One Piece dub is terrible as a standalone show
No, it's not.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:00 pm

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jjgp1112 wrote:Now something like 4Kids' One Piece dub is terrible as a standalone show
No, it's not.
Umm, can you give your reasons why you think otherwise? I knew that the One Piece dub was terrible as soon as I heard the theme song. It was just bad, not because it had no business being used for One Piece, but because it was just horribly cheesy. That's just my opinion.
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