DragonBall Z Kai - Cable TV Version (NickToons)

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Hmm, Lemme check. If it's there I'll just place it where it goes and credit you. Thanks.

[Gaffer Tape]

Yeesh, what crap. Not even Saban edited out those big chunks of Piccolo's death. And, whoops, looks like they painted out Yamucha's scar. Nice...

Thanks as always, Tanooki, although there are a couple of typos in the images this time, like "comming" and "loosers."

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Hey ShadowDude112, it was in my photobucket, I didn't miss it but I did forget to put it in the post. I credited you cause I wouldn't have noticed. Thanks.

Also, Gaffer Tape, yea I suck. Everything seems to be OK now. And I didn't even notice Yamcha's scar is missing. It's strange cause it didn't seem to be a problem before. They have the scar on Nappa's face.

[Velasa]

o_O wow, that's just really out of character. I mean I've seen other stuff that's just good or bad but that.. that just really stands out as awkward coming out of his mouth to me.

Besides that, yeaaaaaah Saban didn't cut half the shit they took out of Pic's death here. That woulda made me angry. It's just such a weird set of changes- we can acknowledge the bodies finally but scars are a no-no? And about that.. I don't remember any mention in earlier posts in here about cleaning his scar out, so do they only do it to injured people or something? Even though the blood didn't even touch the scar.... God, who knows.

[KaiserNeko]

o_O wow, that's just really out of character. I mean I've seen other stuff that's just good or bad but that.. that just really stands out as awkward coming out of his mouth to me.

Wait, which is out of character? Neither of them seem that out of character to me...

[Velasa]

The uncut one. Son's not really the kind to spout a whole bunch of cursing in one go. It just.. looks really weird coming out of him to me, even given the circumstances.

And dude, you didn't really need to quote the image from the post right above yours <_<

[Tanooki Kuribo]

I don't remember any mention in earlier posts in here about cleaning his scar out, so do they only do it to injured people or something? Even though the blood didn't even touch the scar.... God, who knows

Hmm, it was there before...



The problem seems to be dead people with scars... but then why did they edit out Bardock's scar? Perhaps a foreshadowing?

[KaiserNeko]

The uncut one. Son's not really the kind to spout a whole bunch of cursing in one go. It just.. looks really weird coming out of him to me, even given the circumstances.

Actually, Japanese Son is... kinda vulgar at times. He doesn't cuss up a storm, but he's not exactly cultured as far as character go. He's a good, pure hearted guy, but he still uses harsh language a lot in the Japanese version.

To me, this is MORE in character!

... and not editing out the image wasn't that big of a deal, and I wanted it there so people who saw the post, alone, could know what I was talking about.

The problem seems to be dead people with scars... but then why did they edit out Bardock's scar? Perhaps a foreshadowing?

Actually, Bardock's was a victim of lazy editing. There was blood on his face that they needed to get rid of and it was easier for them to cut the whole scar than edit around it.

Also, they may have worried that it looked like an actual wound, rather than a scar, so who knows.

Not sure how to explain Yamcha's scar disappearing, though.

[LeprikanGT]

They editted bardock's scars because of all the blood.

[KaiserNeko]

They editted bardock's scars because of all the blood.

Which... is partially what I said. ^.^;

[LeprikanGT]

My bad, I went from reading the picture caption to answering.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Not sure how to explain Yamcha's scar disappearing, though.

Jeez, talk about inconsistency. But little kids watching the show probably won't pick it up anyway.

[Super Sonic]

Slightly off topic, but I was watching the 2:30 AM Rocko's Modern Life, which airs right after the 2:00 AM Dragon Ball Kai repeat. In this episode, Rocko and Heffer go to a carnival, where a ride called "Elevator to Hell" is shown. It's not mentioned by name, but the sign next to the elevator, which says Elevator to Hell, is shown for a good 15 seconds. In a show rated TV-Y7.

Just goes to show that these Kai edits may not be an indication as to what Nicktoons allows, depending on the time slot. Others have suggested that the somewhat excessive editing is for the eventual TV airings on network television. Or, it could simply be the age-old discrimination between content in American animation and content in anime, since in anime, the censors are specifically looking for content to be "offended" by, whereas with American animation I guess they simply go over it broadly, figuring it was already made to American standards. Or Nicktoons simply took the old Rocko tapes and aired them the as-is, since it's from their own library.

They did later catch that and changed Hell's name to "Heck". They even joke about it in that show. Then again, they still have that one Rocko ep where the neighbor is trying to seduce him banned, and cut a joke that implies Rocko grabbed a bear's family jewels. Still their standards seem to be strange considering what they leave in Avatar and take out of Kai.

[dan2026]

I may be wrong, but isn't this edited way more than it was 10 years ago?
What's going on?

[SSVegetto]

Actually, Japanese Son is... kinda vulgar at times. He doesn't cuss up a storm, but he's not exactly cultured as far as character go. He's a good, pure hearted guy, but he still uses harsh language a lot in the Japanese version.

It's not even that vulgar to begin with. They say "Damn it" and "bastard" all the time. Actually they say "Damn it" all the time. According to Funimation's subtitles though. You think because he said two swear words not even in the same sentence, seems way too vulgar for Goku? Velasa?

Also, I didn't think it was possible to edit (blood, certain violent scenes) Kai even further after the terrible job Toei did. I stand corrected, in the United States, I think they butcher things the worst. No bruise or hole at all. Goku was alright, he just died for no reason.

DBZ is very violent in my opinion. And if Nick toons isn't about violence, I don't know why in the heck Funimation would let them broadcast it. Or Nick toons would even take it. Disney XD and Nicktoons taking animes. What happened to Cartoon network? And Adult Swim? Money much?

[Mewzard]

Cartoon Network killed Toonami, their commitment to anime is long gone. Adult Swim rarely gets anime anymore, and tends to insult it very quickly for not doing nearly as well as 10th re-airings of Futurama and Family Guy.

[SHINOBI-03]

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FACE - PALM.

[SSVegetto]

Cartoon Network killed Toonami, their commitment to anime is long gone. Adult Swim rarely gets anime anymore, and tends to insult it very quickly for not doing nearly as well as 10th re-airings of Futurama and Family Guy.

Oh is that the case? I noticed Toonami was gone. But not too long ago, I saw episodes of Bleach, Cowboy Bebop(A anime I hate by the way), etc. And Bleach is a very good anime (in my opinion, not a fact). I suppose they don't get too many viewers for Adult Swim. And that they are using kids because nobody likes Anime anymore on TV in the United States? It's like taking Scar Face the movie and putting it on Nick Toons, but carefully censoring blood, violence and swear words. Bad example, but whatever, you know what I mean. This is just to make money. That's why on TV Kai suffers because of the money and lack of popularity.

I guess ever since Cartoon network canceled Naruto. Nobody really likes Anime anymore on TV in the United States.

[Strongbad456]

At first I didn't think the editing was so bad but now it's getting pretty bad. And it's only gonna get worse once they reach Namek. I think I'll stop watching the TV version and wait for the uncut DVDs.

[Kai_fan]

It may be rough, but does anyone else feel as I do that even though Nicktoons Kai is in many ways more censored than the Saban dub, it still feels a lot LESS censored?

Maybe it's because the old dub had an awful script and a crap music score to go with it, but the editing is just bothering me a whole lot less. It's almost invisible.

I guess the problem with the Saban censoring is that when there WERE cuts/censors/dialogue changes, so many of them were executed in ways that drew attention to themselves - "I CAN SEE THEIR PARACHUTES, THEY'RE OK", "another dimension", bright, extremely out of place impact stars, etcetera. It was all just so cringe-worthy.

Kai is being edited for TV much, much more "quietly" than Z was. None of the edits have been just flat-out embarrassing, forehead-slapping moments. It's not being altered in a way that actually makes you feel angry and insulted, like it was before.

And they're not cutting or altering things that truly matter, or actually physically changing scenes by removing bodies, etc. (Which is completely insane, by the way - how in the hell can they show CORPSES, but not even talk about death... oh wait, they DO talk about death, but only sometimes...)

Bizarre inconsistencies aside, I think the editing is being done much better and less noticeably.

Maybe I'm still just stunned by how freaking good this dub is. It brings tears to my eyes sometimes. It has yet to make me cringe a single time (though "you're the man, son" came close), and the Saban/CN dub had me cringing multiple times an episode.