New Freeza Talkback

[LeprikanGT]

he still ACTS the same way and has the same lines from what I understand, the voice shouldnt be predetermined by actions. Theres plenty of people who look and act a certain way and have a complete 180 of a voice.

HOW do you know what a character is supposed to sound like if you've never heard that character speak before?

[penguintruth]

So you like the voices you orinigally heard and are dissatisfied with new voices.

Whats so wrong with a dub fan liking the voices they first heard if thats what got them into DB, of course we would be disspleased as well to hear them change.

Are you saying thats not the way he SHOULD sound because thats not how he sounds in the Sub or because its not how he acted in the manga? Because it was just said above they aren't looking at the manga.

If the voice you're used to is so bizarrely off the original vision of the voice in the Japanese version with no reasoning behind it, it doesn't matter what you prefer. It's the wrong voice for the character.

I mean, Recoome is a weirdo, but does he scream "retard" to you?

[LeprikanGT]

Again, just because the JP voice came first, why does that 100% make it the RIGHT voice? He speaks correct english in a clear and paced logic manner. A "retard" wouldn't be able to clearly speak, as Recoome does.

[Kaboom]

*Ahem* Guys? Yoo-hoo.

This thread is not about Reacoom and it's not about Batman and it's DEFINITELY not about the same stupid "well it should sound like blah blah blah because I like it that way and I don't care" bull-crap that has sent a dozen other similar threads downhill into Lockville lately.

Now come on, let's try to keep this about Freeza's new voice, okay? This is a hard enough topic to deal with as it is.

C'mon, already. Don't let this dark road be traversed yet again.

[LeprikanGT]

Okay, I'm dropping the recoome topic.

back to Frieza, I enjoyed the new voice and don't see what the huge issue is.

[B]

Again, just because the JP voice came first, why does that 100% make it the RIGHT voice?

You're not understanding what people mean when they say a voice sucks. Reacoom's Japanese voice is completely believable and could pretty much belong to an eccentric Japanese person. No one is expecting a perfect match in the SOUND department. But Dubcoom is not even CLOSE. They didn't even make an ATTEMPT to maintain the attitude or spirit of the voice. That's why it's bad. Same goes for ALL of FUNi's attempts at Freeza.

Sonny Strait doesn't sound the slightest like Mayumi Tanaka, but his performance is exactly how one would expect Krillin to be.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Okay, I'm dropping the recoome topic.

back to Freeza, I enjoyed the new voice and don't see what the huge issue is.

Well, it's interesting because to me, the main issue doesn't seem to be his acting. Almost nobody's talking about the acting. As I noted in my opening post, there are two components to voice acting: the voice (how appropriate the voice fits a certain character) and the acting (how many different emotions the actor is able to realistically convey). Nobody's talking about the acting, everybody's talking about the voice. I notice that seems to happen a lot in judging English adaptations of anime, and Freeza doesn't seem to be the exception. A lot of people, it would seem, are put off by the voice not sounding like a Ryusei Nakao replica. As I noted, though, FUNimation never said that was their goal. The most they said was that it would be "creepy." So I dunno...I guess it sounds creepy, but I really need to hear more. There's no need to throw this one out the window just yet.

[LeprikanGT]

Frieza is a tiny little spoiled alien prince from who knows where in space. Why would he not sound like a small lizardy alien creature? I've seen the JP dialogue and the way he acts, I dont see any reason why he wouldn't sound like that aside from the JP sounding 'manly'

[penguintruth]

The Japanese voice of Freeza isn't really "manly". I mean, it's more masculine than Young's, but it's not macho or anything. It sounds just very weird. It's more the delivery than the voice itself that distinguishes Freeza. But that said, it doesn't sound like grandma or a tranny, either.

[LeprikanGT]

I never thoguht it sounded granny like. It sounds like a really creepy voice that would come out of something small and lizard/alien like.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Freeza is a tiny little spoiled alien prince from who knows where in space. Why would he not sound like a small lizardy alien creature? I've seen the JP dialogue and the way he acts, I dont see any reason why he wouldn't sound like that aside from the JP sounding 'manly'

Well, Freeza may be small, but he's incredibly powerful. And creepy. From the looks of things, this voice sounds more creepy than powerful, though. That's my only immediate problem. Honestly, the more I talk about him, the more I'm getting over it. I REALLY want to hear what he does with longer scenes.

The Japanese voice of Freeza isn't really "manly". I mean, it's more masculine than Young's, but it's not macho or anything. It sounds just very weird. It's more the delivery than the voice itself that distinguishes Freeza.

Which is what I mean by the difference between the voice and the acting. We can judge the voice a little bit, but we can't really judge the acting at all just yet.

[LeprikanGT]

it would be interesting to see the same VA do all the forms of Frieza; but as of this moment in the show, we don't KNOW how powerful he is. All we see is a tiny alien in a floating craft thing with a creepy voice. I'm sure as he transforms there will be a difference.

[TheBlackPaladin]

it would be interesting to see the same VA do all the forms of Freeza; but as of this moment in the show, we don't KNOW how powerful he is. All we see is a tiny alien in a floating craft thing with a creepy voice. I'm sure as he transforms there will be a difference.

Well, on that note, I'm wondering how much my prior knowledge of Freeza is affecting my judgement. I'm wondering what I would think of this voice if I never heard Freeza before.

[TRIZACK]

I never thoguht it sounded granny like. It sounds like a really creepy voice that would come out of something small and lizard/alien like.

Thats how I felt when I heard it, it reminds me of a snake lol.

[LeprikanGT]

Thats part of what I was trying to say. Linda Young [to my memory at the moment] was the first and pretty much the primary Frieze voice I've ever heard before, as I've only watched the whole series subbed once.

But I feel like we are starting to get on the same page about Frieza now since the recoome thing is dropped.

With Frieza, thats the original voice I heard when I first got into the show, so thats stuck around with me. But I'm now open to hearing this new voice and see how it goes.

[Coola Yagami]

I agree about Riikuum, and the same can be said about Fat Buu, he also spoke 'normally' but in a child-like innocent manner, not all that 'pow pow pow ow ow ow' garbage.

Reminds me of why they don't go all the way and throw in a 'Son Goku' once in a while, or have him and Chichi use 'ain't' once in a while too.

[Gaffer Tape]

Nobody's talking about the acting, everybody's talking about the voice.

Well, that's because we haven't heard enough to judge the acting. The voice seems pretty clear. I never even said I thought right off the bat it was bad. I'm just flabbergasted because IT'S THE SAME! So my question is, "If you're going to do the exact same thing, why did you bother changing the actor in the first place?" And I'm forced to think they were just building hype. "We have a new Freeza! Watch our show!"

[LeprikanGT]

I definitely don't want to get into a Buu conversation; but you got to admit a little bit that a huge rubbery thing in a diaper lookin situation LOOKS like he would have some sort of high pitched voice.


But about Frieza's acting; he looks like he would be like how he sort of looks like he has on lipstick/color of them and how hes very smooth in the way he talks, so an alien/snake like boice does sound accurate to me.

In Funi's defense, all Sabat and Schimmel said was 'its not the same VA and its more creepy' and from that line I herad, there IS more creepiness.

[Brakus]

For all you naysayers and whiners about Freeza's new voice, all I have to say is sit tight. It was only 1 line tonight, and we have the whole Freeza Arc left to go - well over 30 episodes. I'm trusting Chris Sabat's choice of Chris Ayres for Freeza, and I'm confident he'll make this character his own. Chris Ayres was born to play roles like this, really.

[LeprikanGT]

This is true, from the episode count and all , Frieza looks like he will be around for a very long time opposed to other characters, and hes got 3 mroe transforms and he hasnt even gotten poissed off or desperate or scared or over cocky or any of them emotions for his voice to change yet.

side not: there WILL be more than 100 episodes right? No way in HFIL [see what I did there] that from Vegeta going SS to Kid Uub is 30 something episodes.