Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:10 pm

BulmaFan wrote:Many people keep saying that the Japanese Dragon Box picture look superior, but after looking at some comparisons, all I notice is that the Japanese picture is a bit darker and it is zoom in downwards(theres a bit more picture at the bottom than the top): The American picture is a bit brighter and it is zoom in upward( a bit more picture on top than the bottom). With those results, I can't consider the Japanese version superior, so it all depends on the individual: if he/she likes darker or brighter picture. Just because something is Japanese means that its better.
Actually, the season sets chop off both the top AND the bottom while managing to add an extremely negligible amount to the sides. And as others have said, the grain isn't removed, which means the lines of animation are still intact. People don't rave about the Dragon Boxes because they're Japanese. People rave about the Dragon Boxes because they truly are better in picture quality than any other release. The season sets make them look EVEN better by comparison.
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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Mountain » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:40 pm

Greenman wrote:If the brightness difference is do to the difference in US and JP NTSC standards, shouldn't it be a non-issue if you have a properly calibrated TV set? Anyone know more about that?
Well, FUNi didn't tamper with the source material, so the 10% difference in brightness is still there on the US discs. My TV is properly calibrated, but the black levels still aren't deep when watching them. To remedy this, I have a separate setting just for viewing the Dragon Boxes; all of the settings are the same, except the brightness is dropped to match the image of the Japanese sets. FUNi could've just fixed it themselves, but I commend them for not screwing up this release, so it's not a huge issue to me. Compression aside, it is possible to get near the same image as the original boxes.

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Cipher » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:44 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Actually, the season sets chop off both the top AND the bottom while managing to add an extremely negligible amount to the sides. And as others have said, the grain isn't removed, which means the lines of animation are still intact. People don't rave about the Dragon Boxes because they're Japanese. People rave about the Dragon Boxes because they truly are better in picture quality than any other release. The season sets make them look EVEN better by comparison.
He was comparing the US and JP Dragon Box releases, not the Season Sets.

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:04 pm

Oh, blah. Yes. I see that now. :shock: Hmm. Should have read that a bit more closely. In that case, everything BulmaFan said was pretty spot on.
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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by BulmaFan » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:08 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
BulmaFan wrote:Many people keep saying that the Japanese Dragon Box picture look superior, but after looking at some comparisons, all I notice is that the Japanese picture is a bit darker and it is zoom in downwards(theres a bit more picture at the bottom than the top): The American picture is a bit brighter and it is zoom in upward( a bit more picture on top than the bottom). With those results, I can't consider the Japanese version superior, so it all depends on the individual: if he/she likes darker or brighter picture. Just because something is Japanese means that its better.
Actually, the season sets chop off both the top AND the bottom while managing to add an extremely negligible amount to the sides. And as others have said, the grain isn't removed, which means the lines of animation are still intact. People don't rave about the Dragon Boxes because they're Japanese. People rave about the Dragon Boxes because they truly are better in picture quality than any other release. The season sets make them look EVEN better by comparison.
I was talking about the American DragonBoxes, not the Season Sets.

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:32 pm

Mine arrived like an hr ago, going to take it to work and watch dbox action and get paid at the same time..going to hide in the conference room.

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Brad Redfield » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:58 pm

I found this at Best Buy today for $45. It was only a few bucks more than what I pay to have it shipped from RightStuf so I bought it.

Speaking of Best Buy, mine had everything moved around and now the anime section is barely half of what it used to be. Hell, the entire home video section was cut down quite a bit. :?

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Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:14 pm

Here's the pic Metalwario requested

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by LeprikanGT » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:34 pm

Does this box go far enough to see Tien doing the Tribeam to pin down 2nd form Cell?

I know I saw a screen shot of 2nd form Cell but I'm a bit fuzzy on the time line right three.

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Post by Castor Troy » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:47 pm

Finally got mine today!
LeprikanGT wrote:Does this box go far enough to see Tenshinhan doing the Tribeam to pin down 2nd form Cell?

I know I saw a screen shot of 2nd form Cell but I'm a bit fuzzy on the time line right three.
It goes waaaaay past that.

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:48 pm

Yes, watching the dbox right now..without sound as I'm at work.

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:23 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Does this box go far enough to see Tenshinhan doing the Tribeam to pin down 2nd form Cell?
This set goes to where Goku and Gohan emerged from the Room of Spirit and Time.

I still haven't watched any of this set yet, dunno why. :|

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:01 am

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:
LeprikanGT wrote:Does this box go far enough to see Tenshinhan doing the Tribeam to pin down 2nd form Cell?
This set goes to where Goku and Gohan emerged from the Room of Spirit and Time.

I still haven't watched any of this set yet, dunno why. :|

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:30 am

So I just noticed a mistake in the new Dragon Book. For the "Close-Up" on Episode 134, it lists the evolution of Dr. Gero's artificial humans, and in it, it states that #s 19 and 20 are human base, when Daizenshuu 4 clearly labels them with #16 under "Mechanical Type." So my question to anyone who has the Japanese DBox is: was this a translation error, or did the mistake originate with the Japanese Dragon Book?
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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:16 am

When I owned the 2 gigantic boxes it was an error, funi didn't tamper here.
This is a..gulp. Toei error.

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Re: Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 Discussion

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:02 am

jjgp1112 wrote:Here's the pic Metalwario requested

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Hahaha! You didn't even have to make a whole image out of the panning, but thanks. :lol:
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